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Xunlai Master

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Serenity Temple

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12 Jul 2006 at 02:37 - 1

I got 99.1% on Tyrian Cartographer on new char i made.. i've double checked serveral times n only places i havent cleaned on the map are 5 arenas.
Lions Arena (Island below Lions)
Jungle Arena (next to HoD)
Droknar Arena (next to Droknar)
Desert Arena (next to Amnoon)
Ember Arena (Island below Perdition Rock)

I tried random arena to clean the maps but it doesnt seemt to work. (i.e. i fought at those areas but it didn't clean the map)

How do i clean the maps in arena areas?

Also i was told that if u started the char in Tyrian u can't get 100% on Canthan Cartograper cos u can't access the pre area. I was told that access was only available during event. Is this true?

Fyre Brand

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Shadowlight Order [SoR]

12 Jul 2006 at 02:45 - 2

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Also i was told that if u started the char in Tyrian u can't get 100% on Canthan Cartograper cos u can't access the pre area. I was told that access was only available during event. Is this true?

It's true that you did get .1 or .2% mapping credit for the event area, but it's not true that you can't get 100% Canthan Grandmaster Cartographer.

Arenas don't count towards your mapping title. The only part of the Arenas that count towards the title is the initial entry areas (in Ascalon and Yaks for example) before you map into the actual arena battle itself. It's been said before by several others places with no mapping (UW, FoW, Sorrows Furnace) along with pre-searing in Tyria don't count towards the title.

Places that are easily overlooked are some mission bonus areas. The area behind the first post sear mission where all the charr pour out of gives you alot of mapping %. There is a little bit of leeway to get to 100%. That is you don't need an absolute value of 100% to get to 100%. Some people have a couple cloudy corners and still have the 100%.

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

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W/

12 Jul 2006 at 02:46 - 3

From what I can see, you have this to explore:

West of Frost Gate, the path Rurik walks on
Small bits North and South in Ice Caves

I dunno though, I think the best bet it to put your map on the Tyrian's Explorers League section for a comparison map to be made. Other than that, Tyrians can get 100% of Cantha, and visa versa, due to an update. Tyrians can get to the Shing Jea island, and do every mission, just won't get the rewards.

Xunlai Master

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Serenity Temple

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12 Jul 2006 at 03:08 - 4

Firstly thanks for the quick replies, i really hope u guys are right.

Fyre Brand;
I know wat u mean, i did first mission like 3 times to clean the map in charr area n near the bridge. Did same with many other missions. I used this 100% map(http://www.gwonline.net/images/carto...ia_map_big.jpg) as my reference n my map looks identical to that except for the 5 arena areas. (i've marked 5 arena areas on the attachement in my first post)

N i just found out about this yesterday;
Exploration title track (http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Title)
All areas that do show up on the main map of Tyria/Cantha count for this title. This excludes areas without a map, like The Underworld, The Fissure of Woe, the Ruins of the Tomb of the Primeval Kings, the Dragon's Lair mission, the Dragon's Throat Challenge Mission, and the Elite Missions (The Deep and Urgoz's Warren). Also excluded are areas with a seperate map, like PvP content that is located on the Battle Isles or Pre-Searing. However, PvP arenas that are located in Tyria, like the Ascalon Arena and the Shiverpeak Arena (or Shing Jea Arena for in Cantha) do count. Old Tyrian arenas, that are no longer reachable count too. However, there is a little leeway granted for reaching these titles. Players do not have to actually uncover every last corner of the map to reach 100%.

talon;
I'm pretty sure i got those parts cleaned but i'll check again thanks.
n yer i'll post my detailed map on Tyrian's Explorers League section, never been to that section hehe.

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

12 Jul 2006 at 03:23 - 5

wow, Tyria sure is clean-cut....

Xunlai Master

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Serenity Temple

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12 Jul 2006 at 05:44 - 6

woot 99.3% now

Thanks talon, u were spot on. I got 0.1% from above ice tooth n another 0.1% below ice tooth.

i'll change my 2nd prof to necro n do the Frost Gate again. maybe i can get extra 0.1% or 0.2% there.

But I still think remaining 0.5% - 0.7% are arenas tho..

Slainster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

12 Jul 2006 at 06:24 - 7

Dunes of Despair, bottom left doesnt look complete on your 2nd map... Ive completed my masters without any of the arenas, Im busy putting a map together, just taking me a bit longer than I hoped, there are a couple of 100% maps on the forums that can help though, I referenced 2 to complete mine. So keep on, it can be done!

Xunlai Master

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Serenity Temple

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12 Jul 2006 at 07:04 - 8

Slainster, so u got 100% on Tyria without arena areas??

Yes for the Dunes map i dont think its possible to get there. 100% map i used as reference(link above) also didnt have that part cleaned. Attached is detailed pic of Dunes.

Edit:
Ok just did FrostGate again... n did the runik's pass n got extra 0.1% at the end of the pass. so I'm at 99.4% now.

Xunlai Master

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Serenity Temple

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12 Jul 2006 at 11:36 - 9

After spending hours on FrostGate to get extra 0.1%.. it took even longer to clean the bottom left corner on Dunes. I thought it wasnt possible but i was wrong. Unfortunately i'm Still at 99.4% after cleaning bottom left in Dunes.

Attached is my latest map, can any1 find the missing 0.6%?

Slainster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

12 Jul 2006 at 12:23 - 10

yes I did! I have promised to post a close up of my map asap.. ill get working on it again this weekend!

botttom corner of dunes can be done, may not net much, but if you dont have the arena's then you will need it.

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

12 Jul 2006 at 13:09 - 11

I've got 100% w/o arenas also. My map is posted in the thread in the Tyrian Explorers League if you want to compare them. Or if you ask nicely, i'm sure Dougal can do a difference map comparison for you.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

12 Jul 2006 at 13:24 - 12

I've got my 100% without arenas, as well. The best thing you can do at this point is to get the map comparison done. It'll show those pesky little .1 (or less) places that you can't make out with the naked eye.

Don't forget that towns count in the total, too. There's a few that have nice little spots tucked away that serve no real purpose.

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

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12 Jul 2006 at 13:24 - 13

I got 100% without the arenas and without Rurik's walking area. You might think you got it all but there is a lot of spider crawling you will have to do to get the last little percentages. Best way to be 100% sure if you think you have an area clear is go to the thread in the Tyrian Explorers league subforum here and look at how they did the comparison maps to show you all the tiny spots you missed.

Ariana Of Damia

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

♥ Aurelio Furor ♥

12 Jul 2006 at 14:08 - 14

Did you get Both Local and Foreign Vezunah Square??
I found that in order to get 100% I had to go with a Foreign Group and get into the Foreign Vezunah Square, that is how I got my 100%. Obviously if you are Tyrian Char you will need to get into the Local Vezunah, and you can do that by getting into a group with primarily "Local" chars and Vice Versa

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

12 Jul 2006 at 14:12 - 15

Kinda hard to get Vizunah Local OR Foreign when you're mapping Tyria. :\

Xunlai Master

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Serenity Temple

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12 Jul 2006 at 15:03 - 16

Ok i did Abaddon's Mouth again cos my map at the bottom of the mission near the seer had bit of cloud even tho i went over that part b4.. anyway didnt clean much map but got extra 0.1%.

so i'm at 99.5% now.

I really hope Dougal can help me find last 0.5%..

bog boy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

pxks

R/E

12 Jul 2006 at 15:19 - 17

i wish i had 100% but i will probs never get it :S

CKaz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

12 Jul 2006 at 15:28 - 18

OK I made a new [Canthan] survivor monk and sick of the preliminary mission (3 in a party killing mantids w/o scrolls, nah I'd rather do solo) I skipped it.

This was also post dragon festival (the original wasnt, the redo was :b lol).

Soooo... can my guy here still get 100% or will that area preclude him from doing so/do I have to hope for an event that wil let me in there again?

thanks for any help

TheDriftingSoul

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Chicago

Adventurer's Association

Mo/

12 Jul 2006 at 16:30 - 19

Yes, he can still get 100%. That area is worth roughly .3% and is not required to get 100%.

Xunlai Master

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Serenity Temple

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12 Jul 2006 at 17:44 - 20

99.6% now, found 0.1% at storage area in Thunderhead Keep mission.

now can anyone spot the missing 0.4%?

Ariana Of Damia

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

♥ Aurelio Furor ♥

12 Jul 2006 at 18:45 - 21

I was just offering my help on the Canthan side....

AvroeArrow

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

Vancouver, BC

R/Mo

12 Jul 2006 at 20:17 - 22

Xunlai Master, since I just got my own GM title a couple weeks ago, it's still kinda fresh in my head. I used Elwyn's map in the other thread as my own reference, and compared to your 99.6% map by flipping back and forth and found these areas that are not completely 100% unclouded. All the spots that I've circled in red are where you're not 100% cleared. There's a spot in the middle of the desert and in the bottom of Thirsty River that I'm not sure if it's cloud cover or actual unmapped areas, but the rest are definitely not complete. There's a fairly big area in the NE corner (final area) of Gates of Kryta that you're missing. Hope this helps.

Jade_Onyx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Montreal

TSK

12 Jul 2006 at 20:34 - 23

Just an FYI, you can get into that lower left hand corner in dunes (the door looks closed but you can cross an invisible bridge to get in there). I'll take a look at my map and see if I can find any areas your missing in a bit.

Edit: Well, the image you have is kinda blurry with the program I like running when I get in close, so I'm sorry if any of these spots don't do anything for you...
-SW part of Frost Gate/Eastern part of upper lornars pass (top cloud cover that links to the Southern edge of Frost Gate)
-SW part of The Wilds (you should see the circle like thing in a brownish colour)
-Not sure if you need to explore the ice imp cave in mineral some more (again sry, bad image)
-Sry can't help ya out with the desert area, either its the clouds in your map or more likely my image...
-Abaddon's Mouth the Western edge (spider lang) and the SW part (where the seer is)

If this doesn't get you any closer or doesn't get you the whole thing, then all I can suggest is...start from Ascalon and hug hug hug (I'd do the missions first since they seem to have most of the nooks that count for largish %).

Xunlai Master

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Serenity Temple

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13 Jul 2006 at 06:35 - 24

Got 100% now.

thanks all for helping.
AvroeArrow, thanks alot for the spot, found 0.4% using that.

p.s. I'll post my 100% map here if anyone wants to use it.

Slainster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

13 Jul 2006 at 07:25 - 25

Congrats Xunlai!