No Ele

Sarek

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

Blood Warriors

W/Mo

It has come to my attention that all Prophecies characters all have gods tied to their professions. But there is no Elementalist god. I thought it would be good to give something to us Elementalist fanatics to pray to. Just a thought. The statue could look like the Female elementalist when she casts a spell (with her arms in the air). And when america has favor could be on fire with a red, blue, yellow flame (for each type of spell). When you kneel in front of the statue the spirit that come up should be made of the Elements. Just a thought from a Ele fanatic that loves everything about an Ele.

Poison Ivy

Poison Ivy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Toronto

Hopping

Mo/A

Grenth - Water/Ice

Balthazar - Fire

Melandru - Earth

Dwayna - Air

Lyssa - Energy Storage

Get back to pre sear now!

Sarek

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

Blood Warriors

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Poison Ivy
Grenth - Water/Ice

Balthazar - Fire

Melandru - Earth

Dwayna - Air

Lyssa - Energy Storage

Get back to pre sear now!
Well come to my attention about what you said- and what I said was a god tied to each profession. Such as...

Grenth - Necromancer

Balthazar - Warrior

Melandru - Ranger

Dwayna - Monk

Lyssa - Mesmer

Ristaron

Ristaron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Canada, eh?

Legion Of Valhalla

E/

Elementalists revere no specific deity based on profession because every god has an associated element. Thus they're all elementalist deities.

Poison Ivy

Poison Ivy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Toronto

Hopping

Mo/A

Like I said, go back to Pre-Sear!

ZonerZ

ZonerZ

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Where there is Justice, I will be there. Where there is war, my butt will be in Mississippi!

Rune Raiders [HIDE]

Rt/N

Has everyone else's gods and still wants their own, greedy! Just joking

Ira Blinks

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Poison Ivy
Grenth - Water/Ice

Balthazar - Fire

Melandru - Earth

Dwayna - Air

Lyssa - Energy Storage


Get back to pre sear now!
i see no such relationship for the bolded... have you found it somewhere or just made it up?
Also Balthazar is very losely related to fire... His statue is burning, thats about it.

Beelzebuddy

Beelzebuddy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
i see no such relationship for the bolded... have you found it somewhere or just made it up?
Also Balthazar is very losely related to fire... His statue is burning, thats about it.
By /kneeling at each god's shrine you can buy bonuses to that attribute. Happy?

pyrohex

pyrohex

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Read the guidebook.

Ira Blinks

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy
By /kneeling at each god's shrine you can buy bonuses to that attribute. Happy?
that means pretty much nothing. They needed a place to put ele bonuses and so they spreaded them all over the place...

Like how is Dwayna related to air? Or how is Melandru related to earth more than to water? And what does fire have to do with Balthazar?
The only relationship I see being sensible is Grenth<->Cold, since many necromancer spells deal cold damage and UW is all kinda frozen for the most part.


Quote:
Originally Posted by pyrohex
Read the guidebook.
I don't have it. Care to share a few quotes?

scrinner

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

long time Ira
Prophecies Guide book
- Page 48 lines 5-6 "Is the favored god of rangers and earth elementalists"
- Page 46 lines 5-6 (Dwayna Section) "Her followers are mainly healing monks and elementalists specializing in air magic"
- Page 46 lines 1 (Balthazar section) "The god of war and fire"

And finnaly
- Page 47 line 4 (Grenth section) "death and ice"

However.... i do not believe energy storage is lyssa related but something without a god.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

some quotes from the manual:

Dwayna:

Her followers are mainly healing monks and elementalists specializing in air magic...

Balthazar:

Balthazar is often worshipped by warriors and elementalists, thought there are monks who have been known to follow his scriptures are well.

Grenth:

Necromancers learn early that the way to true power is by bowing down at the foot of the god of death and ice and pledging total, undying allegiance.

Melandru:
The godess of earth and nature, Melandru is favored god of Rangers and earth elementalists.

The Lyssa and energy storage can be debatable. Its true that mesmers are the true class that controls energy (look at various Lyssa skills), but i dont know if its truly canon, at least not that i have in front of me now.

Sakashi

Sakashi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

United Kingdom

[VII] The Midgar Zolem

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by pyrohex
Read the guidebook.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ira Blinks
I don't have it. Care to share a few quotes?
Guildwars Manuals - Now you do.

Ira Blinks

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

lyra_song
well, that proves exactly what i just said - they have no place to stick eles to...

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

give a good reason why ele's should have only one god instead of four? It's not like Anet took a gaze at ele's and said "oh, last profession remaining... ok... hmmm... nope, nope, nope, nope./... ah screw it, we'll just give them four gods" Four elements, four gods, seems reasonable.

Now if you're looking for an energy storage god, you also have lyssa

I remember reading somewhere that the ele is the only class that doesnt bow to any one god because magic was given to all races. elementalists harnessed this magic, and their magical aptitude and study of lore makes them powerful without having to bow down to them. In association with eles actually bowing to the gods, think of it more as a reason to gain just a little bit of edge, rather than actually being faithful to a particular god. They left Tyria, remember?

bulletsmile

bulletsmile

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

I live in Konglevegen

N/

hmmmm

could be an ele god too, but assassin and ritualist then

ritualist could have the sun god or some kind of a mix between humans and animal god, the avatar would be a huge rt spirit

assassin could get some kind of sneaky god, like a sneaky animal as panther and avatar could be eyes in a shadow cloud on the size of lyssa's muse

ele could have a male god i think, since there's more female gods now and the avatar could be a stone/ice elemental or something.

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

assassin has Lyssa

ritualists have grenth

ele's have all 5 gods...

Ira Blinks

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terra Xin
give a good reason why ele's should have only one god instead of four? It's not like Anet took a gaze at ele's and said "oh, last profession remaining... ok... hmmm... nope, nope, nope, nope./... ah screw it, we'll just give them four gods"
actually i do think this is exactly how it happened =\

Storm Crow

Storm Crow

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

With Vanatiel by the Lion's Arch Lighthouse, waiting for the storm with which we are accoustomed

Children of the Order [CoO] -True Heroes Fight to Keep the Balance-

I believe this is unfair...

Yes, every God has an associated element, but there is not a solid point that states "Elementalist follow this god.". I feel it sort of makes a mockery of the Elementalist, stating that they are separated and dislike those that follow other elements.

Now, every other class has seperate attributes, as well as the Elementalist. Let's take a Warrior for example: Axe Mastery, Hammer Mastery, Swordsmanship, Strength, and Tactics. They don't have a seperate God for each attribute, and neither does any other class, because they follow one God according to their profession. This just doesn't seem right to me, again subtly referring to seperation between the class.

Also, it makes the Elementalist seem undervalued and/or underappreciated, and for those of us who play an Elementalist character, that's simply and utterly demeaning, because we understand how valuable they can be in some situations.

Most of you are probably reading this and are thinking that I am completely off my rocker, and here's another viewpoint for those who think that:

It is possible that Elementalists have no God because they evolved from simpler magicians. Perhaps a Mesmer or a Necromancer was attempting to execute a skill, and somehow ended up arousing the Elements instead of performing the skill they were attempting. For example, say a Smiting Monk was attempting to use Spear of Light, but instead ended up calling a burst of lighning from the sky. This would somewhat explain why the Elementalists have no specific God, and would clarify why every existing God is attatched to an element.

Just a thought..

vinegrower

vinegrower

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Song of the Forsaken

E/

RODGORT! AND THE DRAGON COMES IN THE NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!!!!!

sorry, I had to do it. But if they made Rodgort into a god, that would be very cool. I'd love to see the statue.

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

They also get the calander too...

prism2525

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ira Blinks
i see no such relationship for the bolded... have you found it somewhere or just made it up?
Also Balthazar is very losely related to fire... His statue is burning, thats about it.
If we follow the new factions blessing line:

Fire Ele: Balthazar

Water Ele: Grenth

Earth Ele: Melandru

Air Ele: Dwayna

Energy Storage: Lyssa (Lyssa is the god of manipulation and dominance of energy from my point of view, so as eles have the highest energy possible, almost all eles should revere her/them - are they on or two in one? - a bit)

Also, eles are imo the most versatile profession. Think about it: tanking, spiking, AoE damage, speed manipulation, blinding, knockdown, all you want.

Flabber Babble

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Defenders of Claro

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally posted by vinegrower

RODGORT! AND THE DRAGON COMES IN THE NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!!!!!
sorry, I had to do it. But if they made Rodgort into a god, that would be very cool. I'd love to see the statue.

YES! That would be awesome, I would take screen caps for days

Mhahlen

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Clanless

assassin has lyssa, ritualist has grenth, says so in the factions manual. I love when people read.

Manda Panda

Manda Panda

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Shadow Wanderers

Quote:
Originally Posted by Storm Crow
They don't have a seperate God for each attribute, and neither does any other class, because they follow one God according to their profession. This just doesn't seem right to me, again subtly referring to seperation between the class.
Smite monks follow Balthazar instead of Dwayna.

Quince

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

E/N

I would agree with the general consensus. I am primarily an Elementalist first and foremost and don't really think elementalists need a god for a boost. Since elementalists can fill so many rolls... having the 5 gods represent the five facets of the elementalist is probably for the best. To people that say this makes the elementalist under appreciated i will have to respectfully dissagree. This would mean that the elementalist is the keystone to the panthenon (sp?) and therefore holds a place of exaltment.