Best Axe Haft

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Canadian Bacon
Krytan Explorer
#1
I know that this ultimately comes down to my personal preference, but which kind of haft is best suited for an all-purpose PvE axe?

I've been leaning towards Furious, Sundering, or Cruel.

Do the first 2 take effect often enough to be useful? Is lenghtning Deep Wound really all that important?

Or should I go a different direction and select vamp or zealous? Elemental mods don't appeal to me because I want this to be an all-purpose axe.

Gah, so many choices!

Any advice on the uses of these mods to help me decide would be great.

Edit>>> One more thing, is a Defense mod better than Fortitude? I was thinking that +30 will be gone as soon as you are hit a few times, but +armor will prevent a few points of damage throughout the battle, and would end up saving you form mroe than 30 damage which would be better than +30 hp. Did that make sense?

-Mike
Ole Man Bourbon
Ole Man Bourbon
Jungle Guide
#2
Zealous if you're going to be using a lot of buffs like Tiger's Fury. Otherwise go with Furious, IMO.

Vamp is good for certain situations, like if you're attacking lots of foes with Cyclone Axe.

I don't think lengthening Deep Wound is that important. They'll either be dead, have removed it, or you'll have another Eviscerate charged by the time Cruel would kick in.

And Sundering sucks.

>>On a Warrior, go with Fortitude over Defense in general. You have enough armor that adding 5 more is negligible. Frankly, I prefer +1 Axe Mastery mod for the extra Critical Hits and such. The enemy can't kill you if they're dead. For farming, though, you may want Fortitude or even Defense, depending.
M
Malice Black
Site Legend
#3
furious /+5 armor <~~my fav
sundering / +30hp <~~the fav of the l££T
zealous / +5 <~~another good 1

best thing to do is buy a few axes and put diff combos on each..then u got an axe for every occasion
art_
art_
Jungle Guide
#4
Vamp for your primary set
Zealous on your secondary or if you are using TF
Elemental for attacking warriors and monks
Sundering if you are rich and stupid
art_
art_
Jungle Guide
#5
PS I am a moron, i just reread the OP. If this is just for pve it really doesn't matter.
M
Malice Black
Site Legend
#6
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Originally Posted by art_
PS I am a moron, i just reread the OP. If this is just for pve it really doesn't matter.
??

of course it matters..adren warrior would need a furious mod a wammo would need sundering

PvP ppl..*sigh*
C
Clinically Proven
Krytan Explorer
#7
For an all purpose PvE Axe go Furious or Zealous.
Mournblade
Mournblade
Furnace Stoker
#8
For "all purpose" I'd say Furious - vampiric or zealous will cause degen that will force you to keep switching weapons all the time.
C
Canadian Bacon
Krytan Explorer
#9
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Originally Posted by Mournblade
For "all purpose" I'd say Furious - vampiric or zealous will cause degen that will force you to keep switching weapons all the time.
My previous warrior used Victo's Maul, which has a Furious mod, and I wasn't dissapointed. My Ranger got an Elswyth's Recurve Bow that has Vamp (bought it for 5k, was that as good of a deal as it seems?), and I can never seem to justify using it because the degen always seems to kill me in battle.

I think I'm gonna go Furious, and fortitiude. Thanks for all the comments!

PS. If you wanna convince me otherwise, post up some final arguments!
titan0987
titan0987
Frost Gate Guardian
#10
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Originally Posted by Canadian Bacon
My previous warrior used Victo's Maul, which has a Furious mod, and I wasn't dissapointed. My Ranger got an Elswyth's Recurve Bow that has Vamp (bought it for 5k, was that as good of a deal as it seems?), and I can never seem to justify using it because the degen always seems to kill me in battle.

I think I'm gonna go Furious, and fortitiude. Thanks for all the comments!

PS. If you wanna convince me otherwise, post up some final arguments!
THe only good time for having a vamp mod on your bow, is if youre spamming barrage, otherwise you're losing more hp then you're gaining, because the attack rate is to slow
Rahl
Rahl
Furnace Stoker
#11
Bow Vamp is best suited for builds with increased attack speed(Tigers,Frenzy,etc)

I run Zealous/+5 and Furious/+5 since +5 is generally a lot better in PvE since most damage isn't direct, but if you do get a lot of direct damage(armor ignoring) then +HP would be better. But make sure(if you don't want to spend ungodly amounts of cash) to get a +29 haft/pommel of fort.
C
Canadian Bacon
Krytan Explorer
#12
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Originally Posted by Rahl
Bow Vamp is best suited for builds with increased attack speed(Tigers,Frenzy,etc)

I run Zealous/+5 and Furious/+5 since +5 is generally a lot better in PvE since most damage isn't direct, but if you do get a lot of direct damage(armor ignoring) then +HP would be better. But make sure(if you don't want to spend ungodly amounts of cash) to get a +29 haft/pommel of fort.
Believe me, I'm an expert on being cheap. I almsot never use greens unless I get them cheap. Otherwise I build my own from a collector item at half, a third, or even less the cost. So you think armor is better than fort? I dunno.
G
Grammar
Wilds Pathfinder
#13
I've tried every axe mod combo under the sun, and I find Zealous to be the best haft for my build, and +5 Armor to be the best grip regardless of build (armor > HP 95% of the time).

The haft really depends on your build, but I'd definitely recommend trying Zealous if you haven't already.
Rahl
Rahl
Furnace Stoker
#14
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Originally Posted by Canadian Bacon
So you think armor is better than fort? I dunno.
As I said before, +AL is better for non-direct damage(i.e., eles, warriors,ect) and +HP is better for direct damage(SS, holy damage, IW,ect) since direct damage = armor ignoring damage = AL doesn't count at all.
C
Canadian Bacon
Krytan Explorer
#15
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Originally Posted by Rahl
As I said before, +AL is better for non-direct damage(i.e., eles, warriors,ect) and +HP is better for direct damage(SS, holy damage, IW,ect) since direct damage = armor ignoring damage = AL doesn't count at all.
I think I like that idea. Defense ought to be cheaper than fort as well, eh?
Rahl
Rahl
Furnace Stoker
#16
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Originally Posted by Canadian Bacon
I think I like that idea. Defense ought to be cheaper than fort as well, eh?
5k>80k Anyone? ^^
Gonzo
Gonzo
Jungle Guide
#17
Furious + defence works best for me, however I've yet to find a 15^50 with a nice skin to get the mods for, so for now I'm wielding a Victo's Battle Axe (sun + fort :/)
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hinhtan
Academy Page
#18
I usually have three set of weapons
Zealous + defense like Rahl has explained
Zealous + fortitude for dealing with degen and direct damage
Long Bow to pull
If Im wamo then Zealous + enchanting
Marth Reynolds
Marth Reynolds
Wilds Pathfinder
#19
just go for zealous, it's one of the better mods IMO because it gives a nice amount of mana. Furious should be nice tough but i never tried it persoanlly.
and elemental dmg mods are always a nice addition to someones weopons. but for pve do keep in mind that a certain type of element is useless vs some foes.
Pupu
Pupu
Jungle Guide
#20
zealous/furious is the best choice to go, sundering 20/20 is just overpriced trash imo, altho vamp is the biggest +damage haft <3