Best Axe Haft

Canadian Bacon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Ontario, Canada

Kingdom of Tyria [KoT]

I know that this ultimately comes down to my personal preference, but which kind of haft is best suited for an all-purpose PvE axe?

I've been leaning towards Furious, Sundering, or Cruel.

Do the first 2 take effect often enough to be useful? Is lenghtning Deep Wound really all that important?

Or should I go a different direction and select vamp or zealous? Elemental mods don't appeal to me because I want this to be an all-purpose axe.

Gah, so many choices!

Any advice on the uses of these mods to help me decide would be great.

Edit>>> One more thing, is a Defense mod better than Fortitude? I was thinking that +30 will be gone as soon as you are hit a few times, but +armor will prevent a few points of damage throughout the battle, and would end up saving you form mroe than 30 damage which would be better than +30 hp. Did that make sense?

-Mike

Ole Man Bourbon

Ole Man Bourbon

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Atlanta

GONG

W/E

Zealous if you're going to be using a lot of buffs like Tiger's Fury. Otherwise go with Furious, IMO.

Vamp is good for certain situations, like if you're attacking lots of foes with Cyclone Axe.

I don't think lengthening Deep Wound is that important. They'll either be dead, have removed it, or you'll have another Eviscerate charged by the time Cruel would kick in.

And Sundering sucks.

>>On a Warrior, go with Fortitude over Defense in general. You have enough armor that adding 5 more is negligible. Frankly, I prefer +1 Axe Mastery mod for the extra Critical Hits and such. The enemy can't kill you if they're dead. For farming, though, you may want Fortitude or even Defense, depending.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

furious /+5 armor <~~my fav
sundering / +30hp <~~the fav of the l££T
zealous / +5 <~~another good 1

best thing to do is buy a few axes and put diff combos on each..then u got an axe for every occasion

art_

art_

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Vamp for your primary set
Zealous on your secondary or if you are using TF
Elemental for attacking warriors and monks
Sundering if you are rich and stupid

art_

art_

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

PS I am a moron, i just reread the OP. If this is just for pve it really doesn't matter.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by art_
PS I am a moron, i just reread the OP. If this is just for pve it really doesn't matter.
??

of course it matters..adren warrior would need a furious mod a wammo would need sundering

PvP ppl..*sigh*

Clinically Proven

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Australia

[MMAD]

For an all purpose PvE Axe go Furious or Zealous.

Mournblade

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

For "all purpose" I'd say Furious - vampiric or zealous will cause degen that will force you to keep switching weapons all the time.

Canadian Bacon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Ontario, Canada

Kingdom of Tyria [KoT]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mournblade
For "all purpose" I'd say Furious - vampiric or zealous will cause degen that will force you to keep switching weapons all the time.
My previous warrior used Victo's Maul, which has a Furious mod, and I wasn't dissapointed. My Ranger got an Elswyth's Recurve Bow that has Vamp (bought it for 5k, was that as good of a deal as it seems?), and I can never seem to justify using it because the degen always seems to kill me in battle.

I think I'm gonna go Furious, and fortitiude. Thanks for all the comments!

PS. If you wanna convince me otherwise, post up some final arguments!

titan0987

titan0987

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Houston, TX

Siege Turtles

Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadian Bacon
My previous warrior used Victo's Maul, which has a Furious mod, and I wasn't dissapointed. My Ranger got an Elswyth's Recurve Bow that has Vamp (bought it for 5k, was that as good of a deal as it seems?), and I can never seem to justify using it because the degen always seems to kill me in battle.

I think I'm gonna go Furious, and fortitiude. Thanks for all the comments!

PS. If you wanna convince me otherwise, post up some final arguments!
THe only good time for having a vamp mod on your bow, is if youre spamming barrage, otherwise you're losing more hp then you're gaining, because the attack rate is to slow

Rahl

Rahl

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Austin, Tx

Mmph Its [Good]

Mo/

Bow Vamp is best suited for builds with increased attack speed(Tigers,Frenzy,etc)

I run Zealous/+5 and Furious/+5 since +5 is generally a lot better in PvE since most damage isn't direct, but if you do get a lot of direct damage(armor ignoring) then +HP would be better. But make sure(if you don't want to spend ungodly amounts of cash) to get a +29 haft/pommel of fort.

Canadian Bacon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Ontario, Canada

Kingdom of Tyria [KoT]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahl
Bow Vamp is best suited for builds with increased attack speed(Tigers,Frenzy,etc)

I run Zealous/+5 and Furious/+5 since +5 is generally a lot better in PvE since most damage isn't direct, but if you do get a lot of direct damage(armor ignoring) then +HP would be better. But make sure(if you don't want to spend ungodly amounts of cash) to get a +29 haft/pommel of fort.
Believe me, I'm an expert on being cheap. I almsot never use greens unless I get them cheap. Otherwise I build my own from a collector item at half, a third, or even less the cost. So you think armor is better than fort? I dunno.

Grammar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

I've tried every axe mod combo under the sun, and I find Zealous to be the best haft for my build, and +5 Armor to be the best grip regardless of build (armor > HP 95% of the time).

The haft really depends on your build, but I'd definitely recommend trying Zealous if you haven't already.

Rahl

Rahl

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Austin, Tx

Mmph Its [Good]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadian Bacon
So you think armor is better than fort? I dunno.
As I said before, +AL is better for non-direct damage(i.e., eles, warriors,ect) and +HP is better for direct damage(SS, holy damage, IW,ect) since direct damage = armor ignoring damage = AL doesn't count at all.

Canadian Bacon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Ontario, Canada

Kingdom of Tyria [KoT]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahl
As I said before, +AL is better for non-direct damage(i.e., eles, warriors,ect) and +HP is better for direct damage(SS, holy damage, IW,ect) since direct damage = armor ignoring damage = AL doesn't count at all.
I think I like that idea. Defense ought to be cheaper than fort as well, eh?

Rahl

Rahl

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Austin, Tx

Mmph Its [Good]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadian Bacon
I think I like that idea. Defense ought to be cheaper than fort as well, eh?
5k>80k Anyone? ^^

Gonzo

Gonzo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

W/

Furious + defence works best for me, however I've yet to find a 15^50 with a nice skin to get the mods for, so for now I'm wielding a Victo's Battle Axe (sun + fort :/)

hinhtan

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/Mo

I usually have three set of weapons
Zealous + defense like Rahl has explained
Zealous + fortitude for dealing with degen and direct damage
Long Bow to pull
If Im wamo then Zealous + enchanting

Marth Reynolds

Marth Reynolds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

The Lore Enforcers

Me/A

just go for zealous, it's one of the better mods IMO because it gives a nice amount of mana. Furious should be nice tough but i never tried it persoanlly.
and elemental dmg mods are always a nice addition to someones weopons. but for pve do keep in mind that a certain type of element is useless vs some foes.

Pupu

Pupu

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Left gw..yawn

W/N

zealous/furious is the best choice to go, sundering 20/20 is just overpriced trash imo, altho vamp is the biggest +damage haft <3