Level 5+ Pre-Searing Monsters

xDem0nic_Requi3mx

xDem0nic_Requi3mx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Shadow Spectres

R/Me

I've been doing a lot of searching and haven't seem to find my answer.

I'm looking to level up on level 5 pre-searing monsters.
Ones I know of are the:
Rogue Bull (seen)
___ Drake (heard of haven't seen).

I was wondering if there were any others, especially if they are close to a town/outpost.

Note: I don't want to be fighting charr just yet, I am trying to get survivor title and I don't want to die fighting them.

Gonzo

Gonzo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

W/

Lighting Drake (I think) exit Ascalon, go left, at the lake there there is a level 5 drake.

I think that's about it.

xDem0nic_Requi3mx

xDem0nic_Requi3mx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Shadow Spectres

R/Me

Just checked it out it's a River Drake.

milias

milias

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Defected back to America

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by xDem0nic_Requi3mx
Note: I don't want to be fighting charr just yet, I am trying to get survivor title and I don't want to die fighting them.
You're trying to get survivor title in pre-searing?

If that's the case, may I ask why?

Konrow

Konrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

NY, New York

Warlords of Earth [WAR]

if you want survivor in pre-sear its gonna take a long time. the fastest and possibly only way to get lvl 20 in pre-sear needs you to die, therefore taking away your title.

Ventius Hozza

Ventius Hozza

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

London, UK

Powerpuff Boys [PUFF]

R/

Cantha is the best place to get survivor tbh

yeah_hi

yeah_hi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

UK

I think there is a lvl 5 Oakheart fairly near Fort Ranik, past some Spiders & Aloes.

EDIT: There is Skullreaver (lvl 5) in the catacombs too, but he's far, far away from an outpost

ANOTHER EDIT: There's that River Skale Brood under the waterfall by Ashford Abbey as well, but I can't remember if it's lvl 4 or 5.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ventius Hozza
Cantha is the best place to get survivor tbh
QFT.

Much faster to get EXP and easier.

Also this should have been posted in the Q&A forum.

King's Spectre

King's Spectre

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Syracuse, NY, USA

The Amazon Basin (AB)

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I assume he's just trying to level up a bit in Pre before moving on to get survivor.

These may be level 4's, I can't remember for sure. There's an Oak Heart thinggy southeast of Fort Ranik (sp?). There's also a warrior boss in the catacombs, you have to go down that long hall filled with undead.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

You can't get Survivor title in presearing. Nothing gives you experience after the charr stop.

The only way to get to lvl20 is to die over and over to level up the enemies - which ends the survivor track.

King's Spectre

King's Spectre

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Syracuse, NY, USA

The Amazon Basin (AB)

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Ruling
The only way to get to lvl20 is to die over and over to level up the enemies - which ends the survivor track.
And you can't even do THAT anymore.

Tera

Tera

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

England

Society of Souls [Argh]

E/

there are a lot of lvl 5 oak hearts north of the wall,u just need to find sum1 who will open the gate for u and then leave. and try and leave the quest rewards til as late as possible, the amount of exp they give dosent change with your level

Silent Kitty

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

there are some lvl 8 Grawl too, when you do the "Over the wall" quest. I have seen many who went for lvl 20 helping others with that quest. It will not be easy, and you might prolly be the first, when you get survivor title there.

Fungus Amongus

Fungus Amongus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare] | [Rare] Alliance

To be honest it's much easier to level up on Charr post-searing rather than pre-searing.

Level 8 Charr vs. you in pre-sear armor

or

Level 8 Charr vs. you in post sear armor

The choice seems fairly obvious.

Luzifer42

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

You cannot reach lvl20 in pre anymore. It has been nerfed. Grrr
Because foes dont lvl if they kill you.
Lvl 16 is max now. (by killing Charr Bosses wit lvl10)

"Proof": http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Game_updates/20060615
Update - Thursday, June 15th 2006...GuildWiki Notes...Bugs...Creatures no longer gain experience for killing you as they used to"

Vahn Roi

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Konrow
if you want survivor in pre-sear its gonna take a long time. the fastest and possibly only way to get lvl 20 in pre-sear needs you to die, therefore taking away your title.
I'm interested in hearing this method.

:edit: I see above.

Shyft the Pyro

Shyft the Pyro

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

NYC, USA

E/Mo

A warning to anyone trying for Survivor in Tyria - if you die during the "PvP" part of the Academy, you will lose the title! The deaths in there count towards the /deaths command, as opposed to the ones during the Monastery Overlook walkthrough and the cutscene at the end of Vizunah Square.

The easiest way to get Survivor is probably something along the lines of:

-start out in Cantha;
-do all easy XP quests;
-do not attack anything that doesn't aggro you (all level 2 and below things);
-get out of Shing Jea Island without dying (problematic because of Zen Daijun);
-get a run from the Marketplace to Kaineng Center (or walk if you like living on the edge );
-do Chaos in Kryta quest.

From here you either get a run to Sanctum Cay and buy/beg/work your way through the desert and ascension, or get a run backwards to Beacon's Perch and then down to Droknar's Forge. Once at the Forge, all you need to do is get someone to power level you by farming trolls while you jack up XP gain with scrolls. If you have the right class combination and like 'living dangerously' you could even farm trolls on your own, but paying someone seems to be the safest (albeit the most expensive) way of getting massive XP needed for the Survivor title, and less time consuming than trying to tag along with Chinese farming bots

The fact that the Survivor title can be 'bought' rather than 'earned' is why some people have started disliking it as much as the Drunkard title.

Luzifer42

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

Just stand in some rez shrine, and let you kill over and over by some random foe. This foe gains xp and lvls up (max lvl20). So you can kill it to gain xp again.
But this does not work anymore. not in pre and not in post.

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

if youre in tyria in presearing, there is a huge group of river skale in the river in regent valley that leads to the small town where ranger aidan is. they are all lvl 4 and theres like 20 of them. sorry i cant give you better directions than that as its been a while since i was in presearing.

Luzifer42

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shyft the Pyro
... if you die during the "PvP" part of the Academy, you will lose the title!
Just enter that "PVP" part, and exit the game immediatly. (You dont have to win or loose) Then you will skipt that part. You just have to kill that charr boss, and then you are in post

shmek

shmek

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent Kitty
there are some lvl 8 Grawl too, when you do the "Over the wall" quest. I have seen many who went for lvl 20 helping others with that quest. It will not be easy, and you might prolly be the first, when you get survivor title there.
Totally wrong

Silent Kitty

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by shmek
Totally wrong
Care to elaborate?

Darkhorse

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Me/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luzifer42
Just enter that "PVP" part, and exit the game immediatly. (You dont have to win or loose) Then you will skipt that part. You just have to kill that charr boss, and then you are in post
I've had one occasion where it skipped the PvP automatically. My guess is no-one else was running through it; it was, after all, 6 am...

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

Getting to level 17 is maximum by killing the level 8 Charr untill level 14 (no, not Grawl, they don't excist), then killing the level 10 Charr untill level 16, then doing all the quest, which gets you to level 17. Doing this without dying is very hard though.

Level 20 used to be possible when you could lure the Charr to the gate that leads you to the Northlands, but that got nerfed about 6 months ago. After that it was possible by leveling Striders outside Ashford Abbey (it was actually only possible with items from post-searing to reduce Health, unless you felt like spending 6 months leveling Striders), but this got nerfed recently. Both of these ways would lose your title anyway though.

Bad Apache

Bad Apache

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shyft the Pyro
A warning to anyone trying for Survivor in Tyria - if you die during the "PvP" part of the Academy, you will lose the title! The deaths in there count towards the /deaths command
That's true. I asked the other team not to kill me, and they all agreed not to.

Then... some damned Ele started Flaring me or Fireballing me I can't recall which skill it is:

Me: "Hey I'm going for Survivor title bugger off!"
*Only just tanking Ele's attack with Troll Unguent and +30AL vs Elemental Damage*
Ele: "You should fight and win properly not hide in the corner..."
Me: "You said you aint gonna' kill me"
*Ignite Arrows*
*Dual Shot*
*Powershot*
Ele: "Damn"

I survived that... Only to die at level 18/19 from some damned Maguuma Spiders ambushing me!

shmek

shmek

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent Kitty
Care to elaborate?
There are no level 8 grawl north of wall, and pre-searing the max you can get experience from characters (level 10 north of wall) is 6 levels higher (i.e. Charr bosses don't give exp after level 16). Additionally there was a bug introduced a few patches back that makes it impossible to level creatures by letting them kill you too. Hope that explains for you better.

xDem0nic_Requi3mx

xDem0nic_Requi3mx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Shadow Spectres

R/Me

I am not trying to get survivor in presearing.

I just didn't want to die in the pvp sequence while going to post searing.

Exiting the game to skip the PVP sequence DOES count as a loss, atleast it did on my mesmer recently.

I do know that it is much easier in cantha to get the survivor title, but I really like how my tyrian elementalist looks

I think I covered all the questions/misunderstandings.

Burton2000

Burton2000

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

A cardboard box in England

Men Of Substance [YMCA]

Mo/Me

Me and a friend made characters in tyria to get survivor and when we went in the academy we just walked all the way back from where you start and you can go back quite far where you can hide for the 2 minutes.