Level 5+ Pre-Searing Monsters

I've been doing a lot of searching and haven't seem to find my answer.

I'm looking to level up on level 5 pre-searing monsters.
Ones I know of are the:
Rogue Bull (seen)
___ Drake (heard of haven't seen).

I was wondering if there were any others, especially if they are close to a town/outpost.

Note: I don't want to be fighting charr just yet, I am trying to get survivor title and I don't want to die fighting them.

Lighting Drake (I think) exit Ascalon, go left, at the lake there there is a level 5 drake.

I think that's about it.

Just checked it out it's a River Drake.

You're trying to get survivor title in pre-searing?

If that's the case, may I ask why?

if you want survivor in pre-sear its gonna take a long time. the fastest and possibly only way to get lvl 20 in pre-sear needs you to die, therefore taking away your title.

Cantha is the best place to get survivor tbh

I think there is a lvl 5 Oakheart fairly near Fort Ranik, past some Spiders & Aloes.

EDIT: There is Skullreaver (lvl 5) in the catacombs too, but he's far, far away from an outpost

ANOTHER EDIT: There's that River Skale Brood under the waterfall by Ashford Abbey as well, but I can't remember if it's lvl 4 or 5.

QFT.

Much faster to get EXP and easier.

Also this should have been posted in the Q&A forum.

I assume he's just trying to level up a bit in Pre before moving on to get survivor.

These may be level 4's, I can't remember for sure. There's an Oak Heart thinggy southeast of Fort Ranik (sp?). There's also a warrior boss in the catacombs, you have to go down that long hall filled with undead.

You can't get Survivor title in presearing. Nothing gives you experience after the charr stop.

The only way to get to lvl20 is to die over and over to level up the enemies - which ends the survivor track.

And you can't even do THAT anymore.

there are a lot of lvl 5 oak hearts north of the wall,u just need to find sum1 who will open the gate for u and then leave. and try and leave the quest rewards til as late as possible, the amount of exp they give dosent change with your level

there are some lvl 8 Grawl too, when you do the "Over the wall" quest. I have seen many who went for lvl 20 helping others with that quest. It will not be easy, and you might prolly be the first, when you get survivor title there.

To be honest it's much easier to level up on Charr post-searing rather than pre-searing.

Level 8 Charr vs. you in pre-sear armor

or

Level 8 Charr vs. you in post sear armor

The choice seems fairly obvious.

You cannot reach lvl20 in pre anymore. It has been nerfed. Grrr
Because foes dont lvl if they kill you.
Lvl 16 is max now. (by killing Charr Bosses wit lvl10)

"Proof": http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Game_updates/20060615
Update - Thursday, June 15th 2006...GuildWiki Notes...Bugs...Creatures no longer gain experience for killing you as they used to"

I'm interested in hearing this method.

:edit: I see above.

A warning to anyone trying for Survivor in Tyria - if you die during the "PvP" part of the Academy, you will lose the title! The deaths in there count towards the /deaths command, as opposed to the ones during the Monastery Overlook walkthrough and the cutscene at the end of Vizunah Square.

The easiest way to get Survivor is probably something along the lines of:

-start out in Cantha;
-do all easy XP quests;
-do not attack anything that doesn't aggro you (all level 2 and below things);
-get out of Shing Jea Island without dying (problematic because of Zen Daijun);
-get a run from the Marketplace to Kaineng Center (or walk if you like living on the edge );
-do Chaos in Kryta quest.

From here you either get a run to Sanctum Cay and buy/beg/work your way through the desert and ascension, or get a run backwards to Beacon's Perch and then down to Droknar's Forge. Once at the Forge, all you need to do is get someone to power level you by farming trolls while you jack up XP gain with scrolls. If you have the right class combination and like 'living dangerously' you could even farm trolls on your own, but paying someone seems to be the safest (albeit the most expensive) way of getting massive XP needed for the Survivor title, and less time consuming than trying to tag along with Chinese farming bots

The fact that the Survivor title can be 'bought' rather than 'earned' is why some people have started disliking it as much as the Drunkard title.

Just stand in some rez shrine, and let you kill over and over by some random foe. This foe gains xp and lvls up (max lvl20). So you can kill it to gain xp again.
But this does not work anymore. not in pre and not in post.

if youre in tyria in presearing, there is a huge group of river skale in the river in regent valley that leads to the small town where ranger aidan is. they are all lvl 4 and theres like 20 of them. sorry i cant give you better directions than that as its been a while since i was in presearing.

Just enter that "PVP" part, and exit the game immediatly. (You dont have to win or loose) Then you will skipt that part. You just have to kill that charr boss, and then you are in post