Touch Rangers

Anyone else think these need the biggest nurf of our lifetime? i hate touch rangers because even the noobiest people can play them and kill an experienced wammo with ease...

touch rangers consist of three skills, vamp touch, vamp bite, and offering of blood, with an occasional whirling defence or dodge, but my point is, vamp touch and vamp bite, despite the 15 energy cost, are WAY TOO spammable for a ranger with 16 expertise (reducing skill cost to 5 energy)...i think touchers should be nurfed by increasing the skill recharge time of vamp touch and bite to equal that of vamp gaze, thus leaving a toucher defenceless until his skill recharges 20 seconds later.

Oh! I want to beat the dead horse too! May I borrow your stick? Why, oh why, do we need a bajillion touch ranger threads? Search Feature for the win!

There's my rant. As to the actual subject of touchers and the potential "nerf"...

learn2counter imo. kthxbai.

By the way, a lot of things can kill a "wammo" with ease. Care to suggest A-Net nerf the entire game?

/Close thread, please.

there is a thread of this in EVERY forum :|

I think i'll start a touch ranger thread in the Ventari's Sell forum too.

Would be amusing if someone actually found a touch ranger thread in Sell already ^_^

EDIT: I went back onto the main menu, and there in Nolani was the most recently posted: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...93#post1682293

Skuld and Makosi were disturbingly correct.

zomg touch rangers no wai why dont we change touch skills to spells so the person in this thread will be happy about "consistancy"

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...95#post1683895

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I forgot say somethings:

1) to be a a 100% real toucher u need the elite skill offering of blood, I don't think a noob could get that, so real touchers are not noobs, just very clever.

2) I don't love touchers, I have one but he's not my fav, my fav is my A/E shock assassin, far better than a shock warrior

3) I don't hate warriors, Ive just started one, what I hate are Wammos.

oh god this is what happens when people dont wash their hands, the infection becomes pandemic across all forums!!

*waits for thread to close*

They are annoying, mainly 'cause everyone plays them now. 90% of them are complete asshats who taunt you about how they "pwn'd" you with thier 3 skills. In addition there's also the fact that an inexperienced touch ranger can take down many exp players with just a couple skills and no pvp "skill"

Anything that enables that could probably use some balance (not nerf). And before you say something like "Cry about it" or "Do something about it" let me respond and say "I dont" and "I have" I made a mesmer just for them and I have to tell you, its perversely satisfying every time a touch ranger goes down.

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If you are trolling, grats, you've succeeded. If not, I just felt some weird need to point out that there is no such thing as an experienced wammo. Maybe an experienced wa/mo... but never a wammo. I sure do hope you don't go around calling yourself that.

I do hate it how everyone is a toucher, but I have nothing against the build at all. Personally I hate R/A assassin more, they can never beat an assassin master like me.

I actually made a touch necro in retaliation touch rangers. As it turns out it plays really well and is far superior to any touch ranger.

Touching with 18 in blood magic is fun.

I Dont understand how anyone can defend touch rangers, the build allows a totally unskilled player to wipe out almost any other player regardless of their skill level.
The answer is very simple, the touch spells should have been labelled as "spells" right from the beginning so they wouldnt have been affected by expertise, i dont understand why Anet made them into Skills in the first place, it just seems unnessary and it allows for loopholes like this to ruin the balance of the game.
I am a mesmer and as such i have a build that allows me to deal with them but surely we dont want to play a game were ur either a mesmer, necro or touch ranger?
Touch rangers are a cancer on the game and they must be NERFED!

A bad toucher can wipe out any bad player, yes. But FFS there are so many counters! What? A warrior can hardly kill a touch ranger 1v1? And then? Are warriors supposed to kill everything?

Try echo ss on the 2 touch rangers of the opposite team of RA/TA, or let a me do his job, or kite and make them useless, or use wards, or crippling, etc...

I have played a touch recently in RA. I've been facing touch as well. I never heard a touch saying stuff like "I pwned you noob", however I hear all the time bad players being like "noob touch", etc when they're killed because they didn't know what to do against a touch ranger.

I remember one time, I was trying to kill a monk with a poion/crippling ranger targetting me. I transfered all the conditions as soon as possible to the monk, hitting plague touch more often than the vamp skills. And the noob ranger kept going. My team killed the monk pretty easilly as he was crippled (thx to this ranger) and couldn't run. When I attacked the ranger, he used whirling defense against me, then throw dirt (soon transfered back to him), and tried to interupt offereing blood with distracting shot instead of vamp bite/touch. At the end he was like: "noob toucher, learn a real build, you don't even know how to play it". I didn't tell him I have 9M XP on my ranger, and how bad he was. But he was like half of the clueless newb in this part of the world. Toucher play differently and newbs don't understand that. So they try to beat them as they would with a melee fighter. And when they fail, they call the toucher a noob, and want a nerf.

I've been playing other builds in Aspenwood with my ranger that a warrior or a sin or an ele for example cannot defeat. And I'ms sure if many rangers used the same builds, there would be topics about that, with people asking for a nerf. However, I know a good degen Me or a SS can kill me pretty quickly. This game is not supposed to be balanced 1v1. Accept that.

if they didnt bring a snare theyre not experienced :P

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I don't know if you're trolling or not, but in case you didn't know there's around seventy eight other threads on the subject of Touch Rangers, each more ludicurous and retarded than the next. Please people, don't keep this one going.

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Oh, I just have to clarify. My second paragraph was not a response to you Skuld, but to the OP.

I play a Whammo. I like my Whammo. She pwns. Don't bust on Whammos. Bust on idiots. The same idiot who plays a Wa/Mo can just as easily play an ele, a necro, a mesmer, monk, whatever. I've seen horrible excuses for players accross all 8 proffessions. Why must we beat on the Whammo?

I say, hug your Whammo. She farms uber leets for you and self manages hex and conditions.

On Topic: ...lock thread, topic dead. Touch Rangers are not overpowered. Anet had an easy opportunity to nerf them with the latest skill balance. If they were as overpowered--noobish--as all too many of you little nubcakes seem to think, don't you think they would have nerfed them???

Maybe, just maybe, Anet knows how easy this build is to counter and wants players to stop whining about it.

its fun interupting touch rangers and black outing them out cause they run around like chickens with there heads cut off

Hmm honestly as a touch blackout doesn't annoy me much. You can't use your skills during a few seconds but that's all. Generally you're in a stance so melee fighters won't kill you in 5 secs, your 100+ AL vs elemental attacks protects you from an ele (when you have your skills disabled) and the mesmer who used blackout also has his skills disabled. In my mind the most efficient mesmer skills against a toucher (well the skill that annoy me the most) are the degen with kitting players around. Touchers don't bring troll unguent generally so the only to counter a degen is to use the vamp skills.

But again, SS is also a wonderful skill against touchers, especially if there are teammates near.

alright for all you cry babys against touchers. when guildwars first came out i dont know if you remember this but "Skill not the amount of Experiance" was right on the beta page. damn there is your answer if you have the skill use it. and if you understand meta game it takes only a second to look threw some "Skills" to counter this easily if you cant counter this build simple get the skills to do so. i found that these so called touchers are extremly based around keeping there energy maintained. so use a couple of inturpts with a high amount of degen. simple to get. there is even a stock pvp build that has these skills use that and touch rangers all of a sudden become useless. ok jezz i had to regester to post this. since people obviously dont ever read the main site. it is clear "Skill not the amount of Experiance" you dont have to be a brilliant playier or an experianced playier you just need to know how to meta game. and there is real no best build or situation build or anything like that it is all about playing well with other builds. that is why most people announce there build along with "LFG" so that a group who works well or just wants desperatly for something known to work will choose you for the group.

this is all pretty basic and i dont mean to be hurtful or sound like a jackass. but when i quote or bold something it is something i want you to see it makes reading this big paragraph alittle easier if you can see clearly the points i want to convay. along with all the commentary since i like to see myself type out long rants.

The OP needs to learn to play.

So does everyone else who thinks Touch Rangers are remotely good.

End of story. Now, go start up Guild Wars, you're not going to get any better by whining.


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