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Originally Posted by Asrial
Spoken with the true finger on the pulse of the game.
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Warriors On Strike
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quanzong
Dont post on this thread if your not going to sign lol, this is a striking(ALMOST RIOT) thread, not a discussion. They did nerf the heck out of warriors, and us warriors are not happy, we dont like being treated like crap, if warriors are meant to be tanks, than make us tanks, not walking fragbait.
Again
/signed
Again
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Silent Kitty
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Originally Posted by Ken Dei
People always try and simplify a Warrior (and their owner) into a mindless profession run my a mindless dolt who will ALWAYS do the wrong thing.
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Edge Martinez
Dear Warriors,
As an admirer of your capabilities and intelligence, I implore you to all return to the field of battle. It has not been the same without you... all these rangers and mesmers running about. It's a crying shame! And Elementalists now think they own the battlefield, and necros are making more minions that can never do what you all do so well. The battle for Kurzick supremacy has been hampered by your absence from the battlefield. I feel lost without you. Please return soon.
Sincerely,
The Touch Ranger
As an admirer of your capabilities and intelligence, I implore you to all return to the field of battle. It has not been the same without you... all these rangers and mesmers running about. It's a crying shame! And Elementalists now think they own the battlefield, and necros are making more minions that can never do what you all do so well. The battle for Kurzick supremacy has been hampered by your absence from the battlefield. I feel lost without you. Please return soon.
Sincerely,
The Touch Ranger
Dr Strangelove
Man, before this update, there was absolutely nothing that could be done to kill a warrior. No skills at all that could ignore armor or make the reduction insignificant. If there had been any anti-warrior skills before, there's just no way anyone would ever have learned how to cope with them.
/sarcasm
/sarcasm
xbloodragex
/sign b/c i like cake!
quanzong
Touch rangers are ANTI-Warrior pal. I'm a warrior and I hate touch rangers, especially 1-1 in AB. This thread is pretty big, 2K views in 25 hours, think GW will do something about it? They better lol. Kinda like Coca-Cola, long time ago, they made coke with a lot of suger to compete with pepsi, but a lot of people didnt like it and they decided to go back to coca-cola CLASSIC.
/signed
/signed
Sanji
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Originally Posted by quanzong
Touch rangers are ANTI-Warrior pal. I'm a warrior and I hate touch rangers, especially 1-1 in AB.
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Urban_Nomad
Hmmm, if Warriors were weakened enough by this update to become as unwanted as Assasins and Mesmers, that would really make my day lol.
Although I'm sure that won't happen. Tanks will still be invited into groups unconditionally, they will still "pwn," and they still have the best armor in the game. Maybe the ones who don't adapt will die more often, but then again, so does every other class in the game....
Although I'm sure that won't happen. Tanks will still be invited into groups unconditionally, they will still "pwn," and they still have the best armor in the game. Maybe the ones who don't adapt will die more often, but then again, so does every other class in the game....
Charqus
I'll strike....
this is gunna be fun xD
this is gunna be fun xD
jimmy_logic
Haven't read the entire thread, but this is hilarious. At least I don't need to see any Wammo's in the PvP arenas for awhile then. Can always use Warrior Henches to fill the groups.
Get my drift... get over it deal with it learn from it.
Get my drift... get over it deal with it learn from it.
BowLad21
Dear Arena-Net,
As much as I love your game, i find i must agree with the original poster. You have killed my warrior. I was about to buy 15k gladiators and a 15k ascalon helm for my female warrior. I was excited, because the 15k ascalon helm looks better on the women. In the middle of my farming spree, I saw the new build message. Naturally, i finished the run, closed guild wars, and opened an internet browser. As I started reading the update, things seemed worse and worse. Not only did the coolest looking armor for female warriors (in my opinion) become less wonderful, my shield is hanging useless at my side when I am struck with a fireball. In fact, the way shields act now, I would be better served by a piece of wood salvaged from a raven staff. Also, I must now wear the hideous full knights armor to experience damage reduction, and even this reduction is only against physical, which if either team in PvP is worth their salt, I will not be facing. I gazed over the other updates, hoping to learn of a buff, but instead I find "burning speed"'s cast time lowered.. I find this silly. Not only does an almost un-interruptable cast time of 3/4ths become less, I can light myself on fire faster. Shouldn't this skill requires you to wear oil-covered rags? Imagine me and Bill:
me: hey bill, wait up
Bill: no way man, if you want to be as fast as me, cast burning speed in only 1/4ths time because everyone wants to interrupt you, when you hurt yourself.
me: oh fine, (add in oil-spreading sounds and match igniting the fuel)
Bill: oh wow, you burn yourself in only 1/4th of a second instead of 3/4th!!!
Sincerely, Bow Lad.
PS if you can make a good build for burning speed, spam it.
As much as I love your game, i find i must agree with the original poster. You have killed my warrior. I was about to buy 15k gladiators and a 15k ascalon helm for my female warrior. I was excited, because the 15k ascalon helm looks better on the women. In the middle of my farming spree, I saw the new build message. Naturally, i finished the run, closed guild wars, and opened an internet browser. As I started reading the update, things seemed worse and worse. Not only did the coolest looking armor for female warriors (in my opinion) become less wonderful, my shield is hanging useless at my side when I am struck with a fireball. In fact, the way shields act now, I would be better served by a piece of wood salvaged from a raven staff. Also, I must now wear the hideous full knights armor to experience damage reduction, and even this reduction is only against physical, which if either team in PvP is worth their salt, I will not be facing. I gazed over the other updates, hoping to learn of a buff, but instead I find "burning speed"'s cast time lowered.. I find this silly. Not only does an almost un-interruptable cast time of 3/4ths become less, I can light myself on fire faster. Shouldn't this skill requires you to wear oil-covered rags? Imagine me and Bill:
me: hey bill, wait up
Bill: no way man, if you want to be as fast as me, cast burning speed in only 1/4ths time because everyone wants to interrupt you, when you hurt yourself.
me: oh fine, (add in oil-spreading sounds and match igniting the fuel)
Bill: oh wow, you burn yourself in only 1/4th of a second instead of 3/4th!!!
Sincerely, Bow Lad.
PS if you can make a good build for burning speed, spam it.
Swinging Fists
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Originally Posted by quanzong
This thread is pretty big, 2K views in 25 hours, think GW will do something about it? They better lol.
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quanzong
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Originally Posted by Swinging Fists
Um... no. They won't do anything, and they shouldn't. And among those 2k views are probably a good number that are reading for enjoyment, and possibly even amused by the idea of a warrior strike. Who cares ? I have a warrior, but I also have a monk, necro, ranger, ele, and assassin. I say go on strike, since people seem unable to adapt, which is pretty much what this game is all about.
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/signed, give us our -recieved damage back!
Sanji
I like how quanzong signed three times.
On one page.
On one page.
Rhedd
I'm trying to decide if this actually IS the funniest thread ever, or if it just strongly resembles it. ^_^
Sanji
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Originally Posted by Rhedd
I'm trying to decide if this actually IS the funniest thread ever, or if it just strongly resembles it. ^_^
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Or maybe We're Not Gonna Take It by Twisted Sister.
floppinghog
maybe some people didnt realise the difference shields made with -2 dmg had? those shields ARE NOT -5 for a 20% chance. (oh and to point out -5 20% chance is now the worse mod there is)
the -2 was always, there was no chance for it, if you met the req (stanced or enchanted or -3 hexed) it was there, helping you not take 2 dmg from ALL those attacks each. how many times can u count being hit? -2 from all those is a HUGE number. you have to UNDERSTAND, this is not a "small" nerf, its freaking huge for the shields. that special -2 dmg is a real deal!!!
THE ARMOR IS NOT A BIG DEAL, the RUNES are a joke, and the shields were out of no where. there hasnt been any word to us from anet, as to why this was done. and its down right retarded.
the warrior really has become deminished, the whole job of them is to take advantage of all other classes with their hands, running up, beating on casters, to apply pressure against what they were trying to do to the war's support. the idea in a battle is to keep the enemy on their toes, and stay on yours as well. keeping the enemy's warriors in check while you try to get around them and destroy their support.
if you couldn't think about it before, the warrior is actually the weakest class there is, UNLESS he has SUPPORT. assassin has more support on his own than a warrior lol. thats what makes them playable on their own, potentially better than a warrior now, why bother tryin to take dmg when u can tele around killing "targeted caster" in a few seconds? seriously - i wouldnt be surprized if i saw a team with 3 assassins to overwhelm the norm of 2 monks, and kill some other caster at the same time. thus removing a warrior out of the picture. (i thought warrior was a core class? lol)
i would dare say people cant understand why -2 dmg makes such a difference, cause they couldn't see the difference, or cared to know, because they are fools.
/signed
the -2 was always, there was no chance for it, if you met the req (stanced or enchanted or -3 hexed) it was there, helping you not take 2 dmg from ALL those attacks each. how many times can u count being hit? -2 from all those is a HUGE number. you have to UNDERSTAND, this is not a "small" nerf, its freaking huge for the shields. that special -2 dmg is a real deal!!!
THE ARMOR IS NOT A BIG DEAL, the RUNES are a joke, and the shields were out of no where. there hasnt been any word to us from anet, as to why this was done. and its down right retarded.
the warrior really has become deminished, the whole job of them is to take advantage of all other classes with their hands, running up, beating on casters, to apply pressure against what they were trying to do to the war's support. the idea in a battle is to keep the enemy on their toes, and stay on yours as well. keeping the enemy's warriors in check while you try to get around them and destroy their support.
if you couldn't think about it before, the warrior is actually the weakest class there is, UNLESS he has SUPPORT. assassin has more support on his own than a warrior lol. thats what makes them playable on their own, potentially better than a warrior now, why bother tryin to take dmg when u can tele around killing "targeted caster" in a few seconds? seriously - i wouldnt be surprized if i saw a team with 3 assassins to overwhelm the norm of 2 monks, and kill some other caster at the same time. thus removing a warrior out of the picture. (i thought warrior was a core class? lol)
i would dare say people cant understand why -2 dmg makes such a difference, cause they couldn't see the difference, or cared to know, because they are fools.
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floppinghog
as twicky kid said himself, if you can just kill the warrior right off now, in the beginning, RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing do it, cause it'll just be a caster fight after that. it will demolish the offense of the opposing team. excuse me, offense AND defense.
Eet GnomeSmasher
Ok this is getting out of hand. Too much overreaction on the changes to the warrior going on. Dont take this is a "stop whining" post but seriously some of you need to calm down.
S_Serpent
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/signed
Anet should and will get the hint with enough ppl actually speak out about how much this hurt the warriors instead balancing the PVP world or even PVE for that matter. Also if you think about it, it is going to hurt the MONK's energy also. Us as monks have to heal the warriors for an extra amount of healing so they live. If you have ppl like Ecksor who does not think that ppl's opinions matter in this game you are seriously are mistaken. Speak up and tell Anet how you feel and this will get fixed may be not tomorrow but when the monks went on strike they got what they wanted......IWAY nerfed. My feelings on this is to balance warriors, Warriors dont go very often toe to toe with another warrior WITH OUT some other caster using a spell on him also. another suggestion is IF YOU DONT PLAY A WARRIOR THEN SHUT UP DONT POST.... you are obviously are clueless on how a warrior takes dmg and it shows in you postings. |
I'm an ele from the beginnen and got the nerf bat really early, I never complained, I adepted and in the process even got better
So if I follow your logic, I don't ever wanna see a non-caster talk about caster aspects, yeah right, like that is going to happen.
BTW do your really think it only affects warriors, dream on I have many casters holding shields aswell, and I'll adept, so don't even try to tell warriors are more nerfed in this latest update!
UNSIGNED PERIOD!
led-zep
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Actually I am speaking the truth. Since this update all Wars have turned into little babies. Plain and simple.
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quanzong
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Originally Posted by Eet GnomeSmasher
Ok this is getting out of hand. Too much overreaction on the changes to the warrior going on. Dont take this is a "stop whining" post but seriously some of you need to calm down.
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Dana Hawkeye
Get a grip. Its done now, learn to live with it.
Evilsod
I hope they do go on strike. I really wanna see a bunch of wammos in ToA chanting 'When do we want it?!'.
Your warriors... your not hard to replace. In our guilds all ele FoW trip our ele made a better tank than you warriors ever did.
Learn to love Watch Yourself and quit moaning.
Your warriors... your not hard to replace. In our guilds all ele FoW trip our ele made a better tank than you warriors ever did.
Learn to love Watch Yourself and quit moaning.
Pupu
this is just turning into another bullshit hate thread
Edge Martinez
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Originally Posted by quanzong
heh, only way to calm a strike down is to give em what they want, never seen a company hire a police force to beat up the strikers, btw almost 3K views, which means BIG ISSUE
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No, it means the same 50 people keep coming back to the thread. How many times have you signed now quanzong? Five?
And who cares if people strike? Oooh... so now you play your necro instead of your warrior. Real effective! So now a group of 8 would mean 2 monks, Ele, Necro, Mesmer/Ranger, Rit/Asn, and 2 fighter henchies. Basically, you get a frontline that attacks the called target, waits for your energy to regen, and doesn't spam, 'monky heal! monky heal!'
All kidding aside, the changes ANet made were fair across the board and very logical. We have all been nerfed at some point. Know who should be raising high hell? Minion masters, because of the limit. Or Assassins, because they're assassins. Warriors are fine, and BTW, plenty of awesome folks are still playing their warriors.
Oh, and public service announcement... Don't go into a busy district and type in 'GLF tank- Earth ele, not some nerfed ass warrior'. The spam you are hit with is painful to look at.
narud
good warriors can tank out a melee guy without this update, and elementalists could already easily defeat most warriors. Mesmers could always kill warriors. Curse necros slaughter lots. Monks shouldnt be fightin. Rangers sometimes have a small problem. Ritualists shouldnt be fightin unless youre running the invinci rit build. Assasins cant kill anything unless youre the rare breed. warrior vs warrior has always been interesting and always will be. Tanks need that resistance to elements man!
signed like hell!
and Evilsod, ive always loved watch yourslef one of the best skills ever i say
and edge you posted a while ago battle isnt the same without a warrior. First if im fightin, nothin hampers the kurzicks more =). Second, most warriors will probably continue to fight, like i do, i still farm the hell out of everything i want to, and in pvp theres always a reward for loosing too which i accept.( except in AB, I shall never loose!)
signed like hell!
and Evilsod, ive always loved watch yourslef one of the best skills ever i say
and edge you posted a while ago battle isnt the same without a warrior. First if im fightin, nothin hampers the kurzicks more =). Second, most warriors will probably continue to fight, like i do, i still farm the hell out of everything i want to, and in pvp theres always a reward for loosing too which i accept.( except in AB, I shall never loose!)
Hiero
I've never played a warrior in PvP but my PvE Warrior has 4.7 mil exp gathered so far, the following is to be taken from a PvE side of things.
I allways feel that anet takes it just one step too far in their efforts to keep the game balanced. Very often nerfed skills are completely useless afterwards. And to me all these small changes combined add up to a little too much. Warriors needed a bit of balancing and I've expected them to fix the ascalon/knights armor reduction long ago. Even the rune change is debatable, though I would have rather seen them available to other professions as well. The shield change was unnecessary in my opinion.
But this nerf to warriors pales in comparison to things other profession have had to endure. Ele's, mesmer's necro's have been hit in the past for far worst than this and they adapted. I won't go on strike, I have adapted and moved on. My perdition rock farmbuild is even faster now than it was before and I am sure warriors will still be very usefull ingame.
Good luck to people going on strike I hope you accomplish something, but don't expect a return to the old situation.
I allways feel that anet takes it just one step too far in their efforts to keep the game balanced. Very often nerfed skills are completely useless afterwards. And to me all these small changes combined add up to a little too much. Warriors needed a bit of balancing and I've expected them to fix the ascalon/knights armor reduction long ago. Even the rune change is debatable, though I would have rather seen them available to other professions as well. The shield change was unnecessary in my opinion.
But this nerf to warriors pales in comparison to things other profession have had to endure. Ele's, mesmer's necro's have been hit in the past for far worst than this and they adapted. I won't go on strike, I have adapted and moved on. My perdition rock farmbuild is even faster now than it was before and I am sure warriors will still be very usefull ingame.
Good luck to people going on strike I hope you accomplish something, but don't expect a return to the old situation.
Evilsod
So you seem to think it was perfectly normal that a the warriors -2/-3 shield could reduce 5 damage from Shatter Enchantment? No, it was moronic. Its a shield, not a magical ward of 1337ness. They can no longer somehow deflect damage off Deep Freeze and Immolate with there shield.
Haggard
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Originally Posted by Hiero
I allways feel that anet takes it just one step too far in their efforts to keep the game balanced. Very often nerfed skills are completely useless afterwards.
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Sol Deathgard
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Sol Deathgard
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now we can be killed solo by practically every class with noobs skills that involve an elemental mod or spell
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The Herbalizer
I dont like this whole physical idea. A shield is used to prevent attacks against physical attacks. A meteor although an elemental attack is still physical as it is a solid object. Surely a warrior would be able to have some of the dmg absorbed/reduced by his/her shield. Same with an ice attack. Ice is a physical thing, so therefore you would expect a shield to be useful against it. Warriors shouldnt just be able to use the dmg reduction against physical only attacks as there are elemental skills which have a physical form e.g. meteor.
Shields shouldnt reduce dmg from some necro skill which has no physical form but there are elemental attacks which it would make sense for a shield to reduce.
I think striking wont work. Anet will never change it.
Shields shouldnt reduce dmg from some necro skill which has no physical form but there are elemental attacks which it would make sense for a shield to reduce.
I think striking wont work. Anet will never change it.
Pupu
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Originally Posted by The Herbalizer
I dont like this whole physical idea. A shield is used to prevent attacks against physical attacks. A meteor although an elemental attack is still physical as it is a solid object. Surely a warrior would be able to have some of the dmg absorbed/reduced by his/her shield. Same with an ice attack. Ice is a physical thing, so therefore you would expect a shield to be useful against it. Warriors shouldnt just be able to use the dmg reduction against physical only attacks as there are elemental skills which have a physical form e.g. meteor.
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Sol Deathgard
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Are you totally retarted MOST PPL DO NOT FARM WITH WARRIORS
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milan
/Unsigned.
A strike just isn't going to work in any way. The monk strike had real backing behind it and lets face it other classes can party up without a warrior, with my monk, mesmer and necro I do it regularly.
On the other hand I just stepped into a few AB's and had a poke around TA. When the ele's started laughing at the noob warrior as they focused fire at him...a few seconds later my adrenaline build with elemental resistance spell still left them corpses on the floor
On a final note I'd love to hear an explanation from Anet or a rep about why they did this, we can all speculate plenty but it's just that until it's confirmed by someone in the know.
A strike just isn't going to work in any way. The monk strike had real backing behind it and lets face it other classes can party up without a warrior, with my monk, mesmer and necro I do it regularly.
On the other hand I just stepped into a few AB's and had a poke around TA. When the ele's started laughing at the noob warrior as they focused fire at him...a few seconds later my adrenaline build with elemental resistance spell still left them corpses on the floor
On a final note I'd love to hear an explanation from Anet or a rep about why they did this, we can all speculate plenty but it's just that until it's confirmed by someone in the know.
led-zep
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Originally Posted by Erasculio
Make me
 I love the idea of a Warrior strike. No more Wa/Mos rushing ahead and aggroing everything on the map. No more Wa/Mos screaming "Heal OMG teh n00b!" to the Monk after they run completely out of healing range. Erasculio |
if anything the warriors should strike and the monks should join them in protest of them getting a much harder job to do
Dark Dragon
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Originally Posted by The Herbalizer
I dont like this whole physical idea. A shield is used to prevent attacks against physical attacks. A meteor although an elemental attack is still physical as it is a solid object. Surely a warrior would be able to have some of the dmg absorbed/reduced by his/her shield. Same with an ice attack. Ice is a physical thing, so therefore you would expect a shield to be useful against it. Warriors shouldnt just be able to use the dmg reduction against physical only attacks as there are elemental skills which have a physical form e.g. meteor.
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sorry if that sounded harsh.I play ele and always have and warriors were the hardest class to kill by far but they also did more damage over everyother class
weres the fairness in that take least damage and do the most damage
now i say give them back there tanking ability and 200ac
but remove 90% of there damage
but wait that STILL would stop there complaining
maybe we should rase there ac to 200 and double there damage
maybe that will shut them up or will it......
nielsbr
/Signed... my warrior just became an easytarget 