Will Ascalon and Knights Armor become Obsolete?

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OxoZoso
Academy Page
#1
Now that you have to buy all pieces of Ascalon and Knights armor in order to have the same effect as 1 super absorpton rune, won't all warriors just dump their Absorption armor and get better armor and a rune?

Anet should consider leaving Ascalon and Knights armor absorption effective vs. elemental damage, and make the rune only vs. physical. Otherwise, bye bye Ascalon and Knights armors...

And watch Sup Abs runes go from 1.6 plat to 25k again real soon.

... then we will really be able to spot the poor noobs.

-oxo-

If its in the game, leave it in the game.
Opeth11
Opeth11
Desert Nomad
#2
Gladiators will float around some more now.

Or Sentinel. Either will float =/
Silent Kitty
Silent Kitty
Desert Nomad
#3
I still have an superior absorb rune on a mule. That is -3 all globally
Evilsod
Evilsod
Banned
#4
Yeah i don't really see how the -3 physical damage is any use at all in comparison to 90 AL to all. I mean unless your 100% certain you'll be up against IWAY and 100% certain none of them will bring an elemental mod then theres no way 80AL -3 beats 90AL.

I was looking to get my Warrior some new armour anyway...
Network
Network
Krytan Explorer
#5
I guess prices for Sup Absorb will go up =)
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Frank Ew
Ascalonian Squire
#6
good thing i bought 15 k platemail hehe
twicky_kid
twicky_kid
Furnace Stoker
#7
Glads armor, KD gloves, and the hp boots. You need the energy. You need the 1 sec more KD. Other than that it leaves little choice of what to take. Like it matters anyways. The boots get hit the least you can pick an armor peice that is only going to add more armor that doesn't get hit.
Mr_T_bot
Mr_T_bot
Banned
#8
My body and head was knights with my gloves and boots as gladiator, I'm frickin' smart. Too bad damage reduction is practically worthless now.
Farin
Farin
Wilds Pathfinder
#9
Quote:
Originally Posted by OxZoso
Will Ascalon and Knights Armor become Obsolete?
They already are obsolete.
max gladius
max gladius
Yep, really is me...
#10
for those who dont realize, or like kitty, who i think cant read, SUP ABSORBTION IS ONLY VS PHYSICAL NOW! JUST LIKE -2 ON SHIELDS AND SUCH, ALL ONLY VS PHYSICAL!
Age
Age
Hall Hero
#11
It all depends on what you play if you are total adrenal build and are going up agianst physical damage then Knights or Ascalon is for you.You can always get Drenoughts or Setinals (sp) and Dragons can cover some Elemental.I don't think Knights or Ascalon is dead as it still has good bonuses.
Mr_T_bot
Mr_T_bot
Banned
#12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Age
It all depends on what you play if you are total adrenal build and are going up agianst physical damage
That's the key. Physical. There are plenty of armors that add armor v physical so having knight's and ascalon reduce it is pointless. There is alot of non-physical damage everywhere. Might as well go Legionnaire's and high strength.
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Former Ruling
Grotto Attendant
#13
Ascalon/Knight's is pointless, since -3 dmg isn't as much as 10AL that the other armors give.\

Quote:
It all depends on what you play if you are total adrenal build and are going up agianst physical damage then Knights or Ascalon is for you
That WOULD be true, but the extra 10AL other armors give you vs pys. is statistically better than the -3 dmg knights gives you..
Mr_T_bot
Mr_T_bot
Banned
#14
Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Ruling
Ascalon/Knight's is pointless, since -3 dmg isn't as much as 10AL that the other armors give.\



That WOULD be true, but the extra 10AL other armors give you vs pys. is statistically better than the -3 dmg knights gives you..
There are those that give +20 vs physical.
Curse You
Curse You
Furnace Stoker
#15
I was bored and curious about how the update has changed things.

I made a charavter with FULL Knight's armor, each with Superior absorbtion on it. I then went and fought the Master of Axes in Isle of the Nameless. He dealt only about 0-4 damage on me without attacks. Now I'm pretty sure that is a ridiculous amount of physical damage being absorbed.

Now the question is, do absorbtion runes now stack?
Scown-dog
Scown-dog
Lion's Arch Merchant
#16
I wear full purple 15k ascalon. I always have, and I always will. Armor doesnt make a huge difference IMO. I believe they are fairly balanced.
infusco
infusco
Ascalonian Squire
#17
Guys, you don't quite understand how this works.

The standard armor template is 80 AL + 20 AL vs physical.
Full Plate is 90 AL + 10 AL vs physical
Knights/Ascalon is 80 AL + 20 AL vs physical + 3 Absorption vs physical.

Full Plate's AL difference is only different when dealing with elemental damage, as the physical AL remains the same (100 for all armors). Knight's Armor adds +3 absorption vs physical, hence Full Plate is best used versus elemental damage and Knight's is best used versus physical damage.

So yes, Knight's definately has its niche, especially when boosted AL through signets, shouts and stances drops enemy physical damage down to single digit damage.
Mr_eX
Mr_eX
Frost Gate Guardian
#18
3 Absorption will be useful on non-max armors against pre-asension enemies who do lousy damage. 3 physical damage becomes zero damage, and zero damage can be managed indefinitely.

In any post-ascension areas, the 3 absorption will become less useful. High-damage attacks and spells getting reduced by 3 is less significant than 10-20AL extra against physical/elemental/all damage.

Personally, I would never take Knight's or Ascalon armor to PvP now that this nerf has taken place.
lightblade
lightblade
Forge Runner
#19
Wammos are rich!

"Here comes the gold sink!"
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Eet GnomeSmasher
Banned
#20
OxoZoso, now you're just making thread after thread about the same topic but with a slight variation.