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milias

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Defected back to America

Me/E

17 Jul 2006 at 03:17 - 1

Hi guys! What is a PC Guru most concerned about? Trading of course! So my question to you guys is, do you use the trade channel or the local channel for your trading needs?

And there is an associated poll, so cast your votes!

Question:

Do you use the Trade Channel or the Local Channel?

Choices:

I use the Trade Channel exclusively
I use the Trade Channel mostly, but occasionally in Local Channel also
I use both channels about equally
I use the Local Channel mostly, but occasionally in Trade Channel also
I use the Local Channel exclusively
I do not use either channel
Merchant is my best friend
Pudding!

Again, sorry if I left anything out. Happy voting!

TGgold

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Flying Gophers

Rt/P

17 Jul 2006 at 03:18 - 2

I use the Trade Channel exclusively

felinette

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Girl Power [GP]

Me/

17 Jul 2006 at 03:23 - 3

Neither. I rarely trade. I think I've traded something twice with strangers the entire time I've been playing. Otherwise, I only trade with players I know so we're generally using team or guild channel.

AW Lore

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

Ancient Warriors Gaming Clan

W/Mo

17 Jul 2006 at 03:45 - 4

Merchant is my best friend

usually, if i buy something from other people, i will locate them through the trade channel, if i see someone selling what i want in the All channel, i ignore him.

other than that, when i find perfect stuff to sell, i usually give it to a guildie that pays a certain amount with discount. (lets say 40k) and then he will try to resell it to someone else later (lets say 60k) that way he gains money, i gain money, and we both are happy

VGJustice

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Tyria, cappin' ur bosses

Boston Guild [BG]

R/W

17 Jul 2006 at 03:51 - 5

Trade Channel exclusively.

The way I look at it, if I want to buy something, I turn on the trade channel and go to LA/Drok's/K.Center. If I'm selling something, why would I advertise to people that probably are not looking to buy anything by spamming the Local Chat? That's just a waste of my time and effort, and I've never had a problem selling in Trade. The ones with Trade on are the ones that want something. That's just common sense.

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

17 Jul 2006 at 03:54 - 6

Pudding!

(No seriously, where is it?)

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

17 Jul 2006 at 03:59 - 7

Great, milias and his/her polls.

Trade channel all the way. I make it a point to NOT buy from anyone on Local chat, and only sell in Trade. In fact, when I'm 'shopping', I turn local off. Period.

Autumn_Leaf

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Taunton, Mass.

17 Jul 2006 at 04:04 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avaith Faer

Pudding!

(No seriously, where is it?)

wow that reminds me of the crazy dude back in ascalon, ah the memories.

i went with pudding, but i go to heavy trade areas to find my needs so i use both. sticking to trade chat exclusively i commend u, but whats the point, i actually have it blocked out cause so little people use it anyways

think anet should focus on trade issues more, i mean we've been asking/whining/begging for solution for this since the game began( though i must say i didnt feel a need for one before we had trade merchants, made the game feel more raw.)

Crimson Ashwood

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Australia

Angels of Cthulhu

N/

17 Jul 2006 at 04:51 - 9

I use both equilly. Don't blame ME, blame how hard it is to use the trade channel and sell things

Ahh, it's all good. I use chat channel because it's pretty much expected in certain towns.

Fyre Brand

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Shadowlight Order [SoR]

17 Jul 2006 at 05:08 - 10

I only use the trade channel. I buy it there and sell it there. If it doesn't buy or sell there then it goes to the merchant or storage until the next time I can stomach going through the vile WTS process.

Dawgboy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Ohio

Antisocial Misfit

17 Jul 2006 at 05:24 - 11

I merchant or give away anything that I won't ever use. Never bought anything from another player, either. I'd rather give something nice away than be screwed out of it, and I'm too impatient to go get price checks and then go spend an hour trying to sell it.
I even had one guy tell me, "dude!you know what that fds is worth?"
I said "No, and I don't wanna know. just hit accept."

I'm not rich by a long shot, I probably wouldn't be able to afford a set of 15k armor, but I make enough money to get what I need. My playing time shouldn't consist of 1 hour trading per 6 hours playing.

Rakeris

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Illinois

Feners Reve

17 Jul 2006 at 05:37 - 12

I like Pudding!

Anyhow pudding was to good to pass up, but my second choice would be. "I use the Trade Channel mostly, but occasionally in Local Channel also"

jackie

/retired

Join Date: Dec 2005

On the Beach

17 Jul 2006 at 05:52 - 13

Trade channel exclusively, I mean..come on that's what it was meant for non? :P

Ranger Rog

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

UK

[TOG]

17 Jul 2006 at 05:59 - 14

I voted trade channel exclusivly, I hate selling anything in game though so I only really sell the easy to sell things and merchant or give away the rest. If I get anything really expensive, (not that it happens very often) like the crystalline sword I'm selling at the moment, I sell out of game rather than stand there showing it to all the looky-loos and scammers.
I have to say though, the recent trade channel "improvements" have made things much worse than they used to be with all this W TS bs, I can't stand leaving local chat on in any outpost now, we really need dedicated trade districts or an auction house.

Crimson Ashwood

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Australia

Angels of Cthulhu

N/

17 Jul 2006 at 06:12 - 15

Bandaid approach to any "problem" sucks really... though, it's a small thing. Great thing is when an auction house IS implimented, it'll make the price of everything decrease dramatically... can't wait!

Certainly, it would fix the economy in much the same way (or more effective way) than the recent bannings, i must say. It's obviously easier to set up a banning protocol than an auction house...

Grasping Darkness

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

17 Jul 2006 at 06:16 - 16

i use trade channel to sell stuff but why do people get so mad when they see trade activity in local?

if trading occours in local and you complain about it because it bothers you...heh and whats up with paople that cry about caps? theyre just letters on the screen and they cant hurt you

TheLordOfBlah

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

None

Mo/N

17 Jul 2006 at 06:20 - 17

I use a super spam bot that logs onto 5 accounts to spam both rapidly.

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

17 Jul 2006 at 06:27 - 18

Pudding, because I think this poll is in no way representative for what I notice. Communications are a mess in this game. I recently joined a guild where they even post WT.S adds in the guild chat. After saying something about it, he called me a nag.

Gonzo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

W/

17 Jul 2006 at 06:27 - 19

I trade rarely, but when I do I use trade channel, after two minutes im sick of it and go to guru auction.

Dawgboy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Ohio

Antisocial Misfit

17 Jul 2006 at 06:44 - 20

I don't really care if someone does a "W TS" in the local, just for God's sake don't do it every 10 seconds. Really, if you want to spam-trade go to the district 1 town. If there's only 8 other people in some dist6 town chances are nobody wants to buy your crap, even(especially) after the 10th time you spammed it.

I just wish they would give us more "ignore" spots. Ten doesn't even begin to do it.

Captain Arne Is PRO

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

17 Jul 2006 at 06:49 - 21

I use the Local Channel exclusively 1 2.63%

I feel that one of the noobies trying to buy my items cheap put it best:

Why is it that all the obnoxious local chat spammers have huge names filled with spaces?

Answer: I don't know, but I still do it!

However, I add in useless characters to extend the length of my spam message, this way I am prevented from spamming it often, and get to post about once every 30-45 seconds.

zelira

Elite Guru

Join Date: Jan 2006

Me/

17 Jul 2006 at 09:06 - 22

Pudding.

Don't really have either open most of the time. Missions with guildies or henchies and the merchant is my friend.

Ventius Hozza

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

London, UK

Powerpuff Boys [PUFF]

R/

17 Jul 2006 at 10:18 - 23

I use the trade channel exclusively, but occasionally allow the chat filter to do the job for me, if I'm feeling too tried to click my mouse

For instance I may type "WTS [Advert]" In my local chat, so that it be moved to trade chat by the game.

Does that count as inexclusive use of the trade channel? >_<

Bad Apache

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

R/

17 Jul 2006 at 11:14 - 24

#23: Shift+5 ftw my friend.

I think Anet should have used more instances in the filter. If a message starts with "WT B", "W.T.B" or any of the various WTB/WTS's available, then it should be moved to Trade channel. Only if the message starts with those though, we dont want messages such as "Your a hawt babe" being moved over now do we?

Edit: I only say stuff like that to actual girls in real life

Volitar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

17 Jul 2006 at 11:36 - 25

I use the Trade Channel exclusively since that is what it is there for. I find it rude when people use the local channel for trade.

aron searle

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

17 Jul 2006 at 11:37 - 26

Local only.

Tried using trade channel too many times with no results. Last time was when i sold my mini pet, 15 minutes of standing around in trade with nothing, within seconds of posting a wt/s

on local i had 10 offers.

Its not my fault trade channel SUCKS and dosnt work.

majoho

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Denmark

17 Jul 2006 at 13:30 - 27

People using any other channel than the trading channel should be reported.

I don't care what lousy argument people come up with or how it's the norm to use the local channel - those arguments are void.

Please Anet make an easy way to report offenders on the site.

Vel Satis

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

No guild as yet

17 Jul 2006 at 13:38 - 28

I probably use both equally. I really can't be bothered spamming so i'll put out my ad a couple of times then skip district. Do that for Ascalon, LA, droks and Kaineng and if no-one's interested I just go back to playing and try again another time.

I would use the trade channel exclusively if it worked but i've never sold anything through the trade channel. All of my sales have come directly after an ad in Local.

milias

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Defected back to America

Me/E

17 Jul 2006 at 13:40 - 29

Hmm, I'm kind of surprised that this many people simply sell their items to the merchant, even though the items could be worth much much more

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

17 Jul 2006 at 13:42 - 30

Trade channel exclusively for me. I also make it a point to not work with anyone using the local channel for WTS, WTB, WTT. Always felt like I was contributing something positive to the community by ignoring trades on local channel, even though my effort was a drop in the bucket and made no difference at all.

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

17 Jul 2006 at 13:50 - 31

No matter how tempting it is, I have never used the local channel to sell my wares. The only time I have posted in it related to a sale is if I'm trying to transact with someone and they are set to offline and can't read my pms.

WasAGuest

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

17 Jul 2006 at 13:51 - 32

Merchants only. Got a cold mill in the bank from just merchant trading... That's probably because I refuse to pay for overpriced farmed items from other players. Collector items! Wheeee lol

aron searle

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

17 Jul 2006 at 13:59 - 33

Quote:

Originally Posted by majoho

People using any other channel than the trading channel should be reported.

I don't care what lousy argument people come up with or how it's the norm to use the local channel - those arguments are void.

Boo hoo, i dont actually care.

I once used the local to sell something (that i sold very quickly because of it

), some random whispered me "you ****ING AS****LE dont use the FFIN chat you FFFIN noob.

which one of us should have been banned?

I really dont care if it bothers you, i will do whatever i have to to aviod spending huge amounts of time idling.

Local chat works, and untill a decent system is put in place ill carry on using it.

I shall also carry on not caring :P

Quote:

Hmm, I'm kind of surprised that this many people simply sell their items to the merchant, even though the items could be worth much much more

Unless its worth more than 20k i set a time limit of 5 minutes, any longer than that and its either a freebee to guildees or it goes to the merchant.
I just have no patience to sit around for long pressing return.

Id love to just "fire and forget" like you can in an auction house, cant stand idling.

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

17 Jul 2006 at 14:08 - 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by milias

Hmm, I'm kind of surprised that this many people simply sell their items to the merchant, even though the items could be worth much much more

For the most part, it's due to (1) storage limitations and (2) time.

I sell almost all of my items to the merchant (including upgrades), unless I know that it would fetch over 5K on the open market.

To me, it's much more likely that I wll be able to make up that 3-4K difference quicker by playing the game than to spam for 30 minutes trying to sell it.

In light of that, I usually have a bag full (i.e. 10) of items that are saved for future sale, and I just wait for that wonderful WTB message before I sell them. For example, I had a +30 Fortitude Bow Grip in my bag for over 3 months, and just sold it yesterday for about 40K. Not too bad since I normally see people spamming them for 25K or so.

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

17 Jul 2006 at 14:14 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by aron searle

which one of us should have been banned?

To be honest, I would say that neither of you is deserving of a ban, but you were more in the wrong than he was.

This is basically the age old argument of who is more in the wrong:

1. Someone that parks in a parking space reserved for the handicapped; or
2. Someone that gives that person the middle finger for doing so.

#2 is certainly in bad taste, but #1 is the person that consciously did something that was wrong in order to "save some time", at the expense of others.

You basically post in the local channel to circumvent the filters for those that normally do not want to be bombarded by trade offers. IMO, that is the equivalent of:

1. A telemarketer calling you at dinner time; or
2. An unwanted pop up advertisement.

Fortunately, both of the above sources are blockable in this day and age. Unfortunately, spamming in the local channel is not, which to me makes it a bit worse than either of the examples above.

sassoonssamson

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

17 Jul 2006 at 14:16 - 36

local channel mostly

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

17 Jul 2006 at 14:54 - 37

None, my stuff fills up my inventory

aron searle

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

17 Jul 2006 at 17:06 - 38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetdoc

To be honest, I would say that neither of you is deserving of a ban, but you were more in the wrong than he was.

This is basically the age old argument of who is more in the wrong:

1. Someone that parks in a parking space reserved for the handicapped; or
2. Someone that gives that person the middle finger for doing so.

While i'm not justifying what I did, there is no reason to call someone a ffin ahole. Also it’s not comparable to parking in a handicapped place whatsoever, don’t talk nonsense.

Quote:

#2 is certainly in bad taste, but #1 is the person that consciously did something that was wrong in order to "save some time", at the expense of others.

I’m doing something which I know is annoying, but tough, i’m not standing around for 20 minutes just so I don’t inconvenience you. Whispering someone they are an ahole is consciously being abusive, like I said i’m not justifying what I did, I understand it is annoying, but I don’t care i’m not standing around for 20 minutes, and i have no guilt. Ive never actually managed to sell anything in trade (apart from 2 ecto, woot), i never shift it untill its in local, i think most of my buys are locals as well (as in im just selecting henchies and, ohhhhh bargain ill have that) Give me an auction house, or put up with local spammers, fight the cause not the symptom.

You may have 20 minutes to spare doing nothing, i would rather do something.

You got a problem with someone trading in local, report them, or ask nicely don’t whisper abuse, frankly I think that’s a worse, and far more immature.

Quote:

You basically post in the local channel to circumvent the filters for those that normally do not want to be bombarded by trade offers. IMO, that is the equivalent of:

1. A telemarketer calling you at dinner time; or
2. An unwanted pop up advertisement.

Fortunately, both of the above sources are blockable in this day and age. Unfortunately, spamming in the local channel is not, which to me makes it a bit worse than either of the examples above.

I do not call cold callers ffin aholes, I feel sorry for any that call you.

A much more sensible comparison than the disabled spot one. something you should consider, you don’t even know how old I am, I could be 12 or 21, if you think its sensible to hurl that level of abuse at someone, regardless of age, regardless of the reasons, you need to learn manners.

Abuse is wrong, stop trying to justify it.

Trading in local is "wrong", its annoying, i know that, im not saying its ok, i just dont care enough to sacrife 20 minutes of my life pressing the return key.

fight the cause, not the sympton.

milias

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Defected back to America

Me/E

17 Jul 2006 at 17:07 - 39

Let's try to stay on topic guys >.<

aron searle

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

17 Jul 2006 at 17:17 - 40

BANANA PUDDING

Some of my post is a little off topic, but hey, bannanas.

I do however feel that justification aside, spamming in local is a sympton of a lack of any real trade system, and no i dont think a chat channel for trade is a system. Of course there will always be some that stick to local, but how many people are really going to bother standing around for X minutes when they can just fire and forget, i think it would do wonders for the economy as well.

Also the weathers nice isnt it?