Prevent leeching: give them what they want: ISLE OF MEDITATION

Deathwingg00

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Due to the fact that many people leech on the game either because they lack time or get bored of it, because of the game mechanics, maybe a system that dissuades them should be implemented. Obviously, it won't give the same benefits as playing for real, however it will prevent for sure people for leeching.

The idea is to create an Isle of Meditation where players can get in there and sit. For every 3-5 seconds that the player is meditating, he or she gets +1 gold OR +1 XP OR +1 Faction to Balthazar - Luxon - Kurzick.

This looks somewhat odd, however it will work for sure.

lishi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

not signed.

is pretty bad aready the lucky/unlucky title should be renamed in a new title : afkier.

Rikimaru

Rikimaru

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

R/

But then no one would ever log out, they'd just leave the comp running with the monitor off or something.

Opeth11

Opeth11

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada

Demon of the Fall [Opet]

Mo/Me

Um, NO?!

24 hours in a day.
That's 1440 minutes.
That's 86400 seconds.
Divide that by either three or five.
If they gain gold every three seconds, they "earn" 29k approx.
If they gain gold every five seconds, the "earn" 17k approx.

Now, doesn't it seem weird that you can do nothing and earn money?

Sure, 17k-29k a day isn't much, but gold has to be earned, not waited for.

Rikimaru

Rikimaru

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

R/

That's way the hell more than I ever earn on the game. Or do you mean actually playing all day?

unholy guardian

unholy guardian

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Lost Haven

A/Mo

29k a day would give me a heart attack... i never have gotten that much, i just sold my amber and have 80k most i ever had ever in the game, and it will go down once nightfall comes out.

Opeth11

Opeth11

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada

Demon of the Fall [Opet]

Mo/Me

Well, compared to playing all day. Farming bots, anyone?

I"m pretty sure they rack in a pretty penny every day.

Deathwingg00

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

It can surely be restricted to a few hours instead then. Either that or balanced even further, however the goal is to get rid of leechers using a dissuasive tactic. More comments please.

Opeth11

Opeth11

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada

Demon of the Fall [Opet]

Mo/Me

Well, if the idea is to get them to stop leeching off of real battles, then the rewards have to be greater in the meditation areas than what the real battles offer.

People always want what's best for them. If you had the choice of making 50k faction a day or 60k faction a day for being AFK, which would you choose?

This just doesn't work.

dawnrain

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Opeth11
Well, if the idea is to get them to stop leeching off of real battles, then the rewards have to be greater in the meditation areas than what the real battles offer.

People always want what's best for them. If you had the choice of making 50k faction a day or 60k faction a day for being AFK, which would you choose?

This just doesn't work.
The rewards don't have to be greater, they just have to be comparable.

I like the idea. It's the same concept as a lightning rod. Guide the disruptive force (afk/leechers) to an area where they don't cause real players a problem. There was a similar, more detailed idea posted on another GW forum.

Poison Ivy

Poison Ivy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Toronto

Hopping

Mo/A

Erm, no.

Unless if a new chapter comes out - Guild Wars AFK

benmanhaha

benmanhaha

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

nowhere!!!

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rikimaru
But then no one would ever log out, they'd just leave the comp running with the monitor off or something.
Can you say another mass banning?

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Biggest problem with this is that Anet doesn't want us in the game any more than we already are. It eats up their bandwidth. You do this, everyone and their brother will be on 24/7. Play a little, then sit AFK and earn whatever.

Maybe do the opposite. The longer you're offline, the more you earn. That would not only save bandwidth, but also favor casual players. I like that a lot

Of course, then you'd have to make it for faction only, and give Amber/Jadeite no value, so people couldn't 'exploit' it for purposes of selling gold on eBay or whatever. Eh, could work.

Res Ipsi

Res Ipsi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Canada

Angel Sharks [As]

Me/

Meh, why don't we just keep asking ANet to ban them? So much more effective, and why reward the little buggers?

/not signed

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

This is one hilarious request.

Opeth11

Opeth11

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada

Demon of the Fall [Opet]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by dawnrain
The rewards don't have to be greater, they just have to be comparable.
No, they have to be greater in order for the leecher to want to go there.

Let's say you can have a choice of getting 5000 dollars a day instead of 4000 a day for doing nothing.

Which one are you going to choose? Obviously $5000, no?

Now, if the leecher goes afk in an arena with a bot or manually, they might be able to "earn" more faction when compared to this "meditation" idea. No way in hell would the person want to go afk in a place where they can make less of a "profit" when they can make more.

Matsumi

Matsumi

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

How about something more like... a damge given/taken calculator for AB and PvP type areas. If somebody is obviously afk for 5-10 min, this way it places them into a different mode, like "observer mode" or something like that. In order to get themselves out of observer mode, a request pops up in the top right hand corner of every other player's screen saying "Allow <insert player name> out of observer mode? Yes/No". When a player gets put into observer mode, they cannot gain faction/exp from the battle, and anything gained before then is reset. The calculator could also examine enchantments maintained, etc.

This way, it would be left up to your team whether or not you were put there incorrectly. Which, I think we pretty much know who the leechers are when the games are going on, so it wouldn't be hard to decide.

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

Sorry... But this is just unreasonable.

Deathwingg00

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Res Ipsi
Meh, why don't we just keep asking ANet to ban them? So much more effective, and why reward the little buggers?

/not signed
Unfortunately, this is not a personal aggression and might be illegal in some countries.

The idea of giving stuff to players while they are offline makes sense as well.

Kaguya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Moon

Mo/

Yeah, just hand out FoW armor, 1000 plats and 5 stacks of ectoplasm to the new charas, while we are at it.

prism2525

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

E/

Boy are you serious about this thing? Why on EARTH should AFKers get rewards?? Just tell me one good thing they are doing for the community for them to merit even 1g an hour and you may have a small point.

/notsigned... died laughing

Kid Divinity

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Zydian Coven

Rt/E

/ridiculous

Stranger The Ranger

Stranger The Ranger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Those Netherlands

Dynasty Warriors [DW]

R/

*speechless*

/not signed

ShadowsRequiem

ShadowsRequiem

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaguya
Yeah, just hand out FoW armor, 1000 plats and 5 stacks of ectoplasm to the new charas, while we are at it.

oooo i looovvvveeeee that idea

Cybah

Cybah

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Europe

Guardians Of Eternal Sands [GoeS]

W/

HAHAHAHAHA WTF worst idea I've ever read hahahahahaha

bot isle ftw hahaha yeah omfg you have to be bored........

Kai Nui

Kai Nui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Behind you with a knife

Celebrity Gangsters [FamE]

Me/

Cool, so I wouldn't have to farm because I could just AFK all day sweet!

/signed

Beat_Go_Stick

Beat_Go_Stick

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Hahahahaha

Yaknow, I can run Guild Wars minimized with lowered video settings at 600x800 while I play Oblivion! What an excellent idea!

/signed

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

LOL, increase server load so people not on the game can play. Great, then we will have cutting trees and mining.

/NOTsigned.

Cjlr

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

SMS

E/Me

Wait, isn't one of the Guild Halls called Isle of Meditation?

The milk shake

The milk shake

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Pre-Searing Ascalon

R/

UBER SARCASM (it would be more reasonable if only i could use it and it was 1 ecto stack per second, that way id get about 10000 ecto stacks, and make a fortune off ebay, then buy about 50 accounts, and 600 sets of FoW armor, and customize the rarest most expensive items, and become some kinda billionare selling ectos off ebay or something ) UBER SARCASM

Lord Oranos

Lord Oranos

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fort Aspenwood

You could just give them faction for doing what they did on a personal level, dont make it impossible to get the standard reward but weed out the bots that leech off of others.

SpeedyKQ

SpeedyKQ

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

E/Me

Yes, outstanding idea!

It inspires an idea of my own. In real life it would be good to cut down on armed robberies. They are very unpleasant for everyone involved. The government could print money and mail it to everyone, at the same rate at which a robber would steal it. This way, there would be no motivation for armed robbery, and the nation would be much safer.