Question on Ranger... no one bothered asking

Dyon Adell

Dyon Adell

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Join Date: Jun 2006

Tyria

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Why doesn't our arrows finish? It's like we got an infinite quiver or something.

Maria The Princess

Maria The Princess

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Aequitas Deis

SHHHHHHHH

are u asking for a nurf?

i dont want to have to buy/craft arrows after every battle........

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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It wouldmake the game un balanced. Rangers would be the only class that needs to buy there weapons over and over.

xenex

The Guy

Join Date: Apr 2006

N/

Not really. It could be like RuneScape (lol) and elementalists have to buy runes, necromancers can collect bones or something, etc. But that's retarded.

MercenaryKnight

MercenaryKnight

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Join Date: May 2006

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I like the improvement. In diablo2 amazons or anybody using bows had to buy arrows. Definitely not fun.

Dyon Adell

Dyon Adell

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maria The Princess
SHHHHHHHH

are u asking for a nurf?

i dont want to have to buy/craft arrows after every battle........ Yeah well I was expecting that. Kinda in a flame-me mood today. Well it would be fun... if arrows are sold at say 10g for 500. Maybe Warriors need to spend on repairing their weapons, elementalists on runes as mentioned, Necromancers need skulls, Mesmers need make-up, and Monks need Holy Water or something.

Some form of gold spent long-term for maintenance. GW is pretty realistic from certain aspects. And this could add more to realism.

Shadow-Hunter

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Denmark

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That would suck so RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing hard.. >_> In D2 the gold is worth nothing.. So you dont care about it.. And also, would be fun to do TopK as barrager team needing to have the 2 bags full of arrows so you can keep fireing off 6 at a time for like an hour x.x And in D2 you can just TP to town and buy more >_> You can do that in Gw.. So let this thread die before anet nerf more of my chars..

~Shadow

SnipiousMax

SnipiousMax

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Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dyon Adell
Yeah well I was expecting that. Kinda in a flame-me mood today. Well it would be fun... if arrows are sold at say 10g for 500. Maybe Warriors need to spend on repairing their weapons, elementalists on runes as mentioned, Necromancers need skulls, Mesmers need make-up, and Monks need Holy Water or something.

Some form of gold spent long-term for maintenance. GW is pretty realistic from certain aspects. And this could add more to realism. Guild Wars is appealing in that it does not require alot of grind to maintain your character. Rather it gets right to the 'meat and potatoes' of the gameplay. Rather than grinding levels or equipment, you are allowed to enjoy the game freely. Granted, should you decide you want a rare skinned weapon, or that you want to unlock all the skills on one character... then a certain amount of repetative gameplay should be expected. If you are a major contender in the GvG ladder, than again, it requires grinding the ladder. But overall and without question, one of GW's big selling points is being able to spend time doing things more enjoyable than maintainence.

Pick Me

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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First off, does anyone have the garbage bin that is included in your inventory? I have the backpack, belt, and 2 bags. The last one looks like a garbage bin to me.

As why do I ask that? Because its extra space that you would use if you needed arrows. If everyone needed something, like a skull for each casting of a necro spell, or a rune for each ele spell, or vial of holy water for each monk spell, etc. Then everyone would have lots of materials on their person in order to utilize their skill(s). Do pets need food?

Let's not do the D2 thing, where everything costs money. I mean, I'm sorry, but if someone has trouble getting money, repairing armor, weapons, getting arrows, spears/javelins (for the new class), becomes way too much. Farming becomes more useful, but probably will also become more scarce (drops may become lower, etc). And tournaments, oh man, how long will your supplies last if its a long GvG or Alliance battle?

What would happen if repairs = lower costs of armor, but still needs materials to repair?

An example would be: 15K + 250 tan hides + 250 scales + 10 fur squares. Now, repairs would be 500 g + 5 tan hides + 5 scales + 1 fur square. Repairs are based on the damage on the armor (lets say 10/50 - 10 is health left on armor, out of 50 max).

This can become very expensive. Obviously the armor costs I made up (just like repair costs), but you get the idea.

Lets keep supplies as they are, no arrows needed, not material spell components, and NO REPAIRS!!!

Dyon Adell

Dyon Adell

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Lol ok. Really got flamed. ><

Was fun though...

MalVeauX

MalVeauX

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Join Date: Mar 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dyon Adell
Why doesn't our arrows finish? It's like we got an infinite quiver or something.
Simple reason:

If a single class had to have "ammunition" to fuel their main attack attribute set, and the other classes did not, other than energy, then you would create a massive unbalance that would have people not using bow attacks.

They would be useless on long missions.
They would be useless in GVG matches.

Hard to interrupt when you don't have arrows.
Hard to shoot something with spike damage without arrows.

Does the game really need to revolve around having enough arrows to `stay in the game?'

The game is based on skills, use of skills, and character management. Not "sufficient stuff in inventory."

Maria The Princess

Maria The Princess

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Join Date: Mar 2006

Aequitas Deis

imagine in a B/P team someone ran out of arrows...... LOL

Dyon Adell

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Sure adds some drama doesn't it? ;p

Dyon Adell

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Oops sorry for double post.

Amy Awien

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R/

Drama ... "Hi, erhm, could I borrow a quiver of arrows from you?"

Cyan The Archer

Cyan The Archer

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Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dyon Adell
Why doesn't our arrows finish? It's like we got an infinite quiver or something. We dont have a quiver.

MalVeauX

MalVeauX

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dyon Adell
Sure adds some drama doesn't it? ;p
Drama. That's exactly what it will create.

We go from:

"OMG LAG!"

To:

"OMG NO ARROW!"

Then everyone can blame that.

Wolydarg

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

I Excentrix I [PuNK]

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Imagine trying to repair the fow armor you saved up months to get with ecto's and shards....ouch...

Pillz_veritas

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fun Loving Gamers

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Melandru in her ultimate wisdom gifted the Ranger Profession and Secondary Profesion a unique ability. The magic of the armor that provide Rangers Energy is an endless gift from her. This magical armor allows us to draw infinite arrows from our armor to do justice for Melandru while she is in the rift. This is why Rangers Dont need quivers, or Arrows.

Sir Mad

Sir Mad

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Join Date: Apr 2006

Moe's Pub

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maria The Princess
imagine in a B/P team someone ran out of arrows...... LOL He would have to use the Ogre-Slaying Knife he found the run before...

However with the 8 secs skills disabled when your pet dies (and the dp thingy), they can no longer shoot that many arrows anyway

Baby Raiven

Baby Raiven

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Cornfields

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyan The Archer
We dont have a quiver. that woudl look sweet..and make the armor fuller like every class can buy this upgrade (quiver for rangers) to increase a skill for that class.

Dyon Adell

Dyon Adell

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Yeah there're no quivers actually. Rangers just magically draw arrows from their back. ArenaNet should at least add a quiver graphic, even if they intend to remain the infinite amount of arrows.

Also, I noticed bows don't have strings. =.=

Lastly, even the men don't have pubic hair! The warriors underarms are dark but shaved!! Totally disgusting!!!!

Cyan The Archer

Cyan The Archer

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Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dyon Adell
Yeah there're no quivers actually. Rangers just magically draw arrows from their back. ArenaNet should at least add a quiver graphic, even if they intend to remain the infinite amount of arrows.

Also, I noticed bows don't have strings. =.=

Lastly, even the men don't have pubic hair! The warriors underarms are dark but shaved!! Totally disgusting!!!! He knows the secret! Kill him before he tell others

Bad Apache

Bad Apache

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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Yes let's get a quiver. Also while we add the quiver into the game, why not add a sheath for the sword? A strap for the hammer?

While we add these new animated graphics into the game let's re-animate the cape, so it reacts to the shape of these new feature, and also, let's edit the capes movement to not glitch through them!

Honestly. It is too hard to do. You've all seen how they have 'forced' the cape out from the neck and bent it at a 90° angle when we sit...