Otyugh's Cry. Pathetic.

serenitys flame

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

There cannot be a more useless skill then "Otyugh's Cry". I'm pretty sure this is how the spell reads: "All non-charmed animals around you become aggresive to the enemy you're fighting (for some amount of time or something like that)." HOW OFTEN DO YOU FIND UNCHARMED ANIMALS!?!? EVEN IF YOU DID, THEY WOULD BE LEVEL 5! Great skill, control a level 5 wolf for 20 seconds to help you kill some level 24 enemies! Thank you Guild wars for this great skill!

llsektorll

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

R/

lol if it included charmed animals... iway would be decimated...

Bale_Shadowscar

Bale_Shadowscar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

New Dragons [NDR]

There have been many rants about how weak it is. It is agreed that it needs a little buff, but the main point of the skill is to provide you and your teammates pets with +20 armor for 30 seconds.

I want to meet Otyugh someday :P

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

We all know its a sad skill.

Anet knows its a sad skill.

They'll fix it someday, but its not important.

MOVE ON

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Welcome to 2 years ago

This has always been a joke skill and been dicussed 10,000 times on these very forums

Use the search function next time please.

Jessyi

Jessyi

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
Use the search function next time please.
Yeah! There's another thread just like this in the suggestion forum...um...from 2 minutes ago...also created by a guy named serenitys flame. Weird. Yeah.
edit: And also here for some reason: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...0006298&page=3

Before the thread is closed for that, I just want to say I'm still pissed off Otyugh's Cry isn't a spell so that I could echo it. Twice.

-Jessyi

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

You know... it could be interesting if it involved a much larger range, and if the native critters were higher levels and mirrored any commands you gave to your own pet for a set period of time.

Silent Kitty

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

I think it will not even make the cows attack, on Shing Jea island

Tainek

Tainek

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

[Rage]

Actually its a Very Useful Skill, In a B/P Team (5 Pets tanking) one ranger Carrying it will boost the AL of all the tanks by 20, and it is inexpensive and easy to keep it up 24/7.


the wild animals part is hopeless, but the skill isnt

Rogmar

Rogmar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

W/

I use it to fuel Enraged Lunge, that's it lol...

Rulke

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Lair Of The Red Dragon

N/E

20 bonus armour to all nearby pets. 20.

That's the difference between warrior armour and caster armour.

It corresponds to a 29.3% reduction in all damage without armour penetration or ignoring.

It gives a lvl 20 pet 100 AL for 30 seconds.

Only useless thing about it is that it only affects nearby pets, not your own pet as well if you aren't standing close to him.

And because this is a long lasting AoE skill, a group of beastmasters only need one person with this to have all their pets get an additional damage reduction.

Not too useful, but certainly not on the same level as Archer's Signet.

EDIT: Damage reduction is 100*(1-1/root 2) %, not 100*root 2 %

fiery

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

PvP useful as well as Pve useful, such as in old Tombs place B/P. Or thumping in HA/GVG.

bulletsmile

bulletsmile

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

I live in Konglevegen

N/

lol this is the ultimate pvp skill, yeah...

gosl

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Maybe they should make it more of a summoning skill.

Kai Nui

Kai Nui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Behind you with a knife

Celebrity Gangsters [FamE]

Me/

Otyugh is the name of the Contemplation of Purity baby. Why else would he cry?

Amy Awien

Amy Awien

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

R/

You know what is pathetic? Players who can not read skill descriptions and come whining about whatever it is they thought to read.

How, serenitys flame, are you ever going to combine skills into a build if you can not read their descriptions?

sinican

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

SAW

D/

not sure why rangers dont have a "charm Animal" and a "Charm Monster" skill

2 classic skills... i know this is guildwars thats not really my point...

the skills could be extremely usefull for PvE if anyone cares about PvE anymore...

Empex

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

I believe rangers have a skill called Charm Animal :P

Hung Wei Lo

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

...just wondering: if it's a shout, why don't we see anything in a text bubble? Everytime the skill is used I'm sure a howl/squawk/bleat/moo/bark/whatever can be programmed in (kind of like the tengu grunt) I'm kind of curious as to what an Otyugh sounds like

Vusak

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

it'd be better if it had an attribute tied effect that 'conjured' atleast XX levels of animals to attack enemies.

so say at level 13 beast mastery it conjured up to 30 levels of animals to attack, with none lower than level 13 - and the animal type being dependent on the area youre in.

ofcourse that would be crazy overpowered with lots of rangers, so i dont know, maybe there could be a fixed limit on how many animals can be conjured at any one time by any PCs.

Goats17

Goats17

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

House Zu Heltzer, laughing at them.

The [GEAR] Trick

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kai Nui
Otyugh is the name of the Contemplation of Purity baby. Why else would he cry?
^Lmao

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tainek
Actually its a Very Useful Skill, In a B/P Team (5 Pets tanking) one ranger Carrying it will boost the AL of all the tanks by 20, and it is inexpensive and easy to keep it up 24/7.


the wild animals part is hopeless, but the skill isnt
THe pets are supposed to die fast for the Necromancers. Duh Duh Duh Duh.

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

I think if animals effcted by OC became level 20 or equvalent to it for the duration of the skill, it would actually be somewhat useful. Or maybe if the effects stacked beastmaster PvP group or something could be formed. Or maybe a new barrage team thing with pets.

And btw, hasn't anyone told you that if you haven't got anything good to say then don't say it at all? Flaming people gets us nowhere. Constructive criticism is good though.

Amy Awien

Amy Awien

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

R/

You are missing what is probably the most important use of this skill:

(taken from GW-Wiki)
Quote:
All animals in the area become hostile to your target and gain +20 armor for 30 seconds.
Is a skill that gives +20 AL for 30 seconds worth 5 energy (less with expertise) and a place on a beasmaster's skillbar?

What would you, as Warrior, consider is the worth of +20AL?

Edit: All animals ... includes your pet.

Kai Nui

Kai Nui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Behind you with a knife

Celebrity Gangsters [FamE]

Me/

Now if only you could keep the pets around and then the more and more you traveled through the pve area the amount of pets would add up... almost like a MM...

lightblade

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

Idea:
Make it like an IWAY for pet.

Shout. For each dead ally in the area, your pet gain 25% attack speed and +3 health regeneration for 10 seconds

Rulke

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Lair Of The Red Dragon

N/E

Idea:

Shout. All animal comapanions gain 20 armor for 30 seconds. All unallied animals in the area become hostile to your target and gain 20 armor for 30 seconds.

Now you don't need to stand next to your pet to use this, and it becomes a very good protective skill.

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by lightblade
Idea:
Make it like an IWAY for pet.
I wonder what that would be called? 'My pet will make a sad attempt to avenge you?

Shout. For each dead ally in the area, your pet gain 25% attack speed and +3 health regeneration for 10 seconds. The caster also gets an err. 7 for using such a crappy skill.

lol.

Haggard

Haggard

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Urmston, Manchester, UK

Greener Pastures [DVDF]

W/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogmar
I use it to fuel Enraged Lunge, that's it lol...
Well, theres one use. Brownies for whoever comes up with another!

Falrow

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rulke
That's the difference between warrior armour and caster armour.
You make it sound like warriors don't have shields or absorption or defensive stances and all that matters is there 100 base physical armor.

Anyways, about the skill. Yah...

shardfenix

shardfenix

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Il Power Overwhelming Il [HaX]

Quote:
Originally Posted by llsektorll
lol if it included charmed animals... iway would be decimated...
is that a bad thing?

Iway already controls the metagame of GW, and it has for almost a year. The fact that it hasn't been nerfed out of existance is pathetic, and only proves that arenanet used a dartboard when choosing their skill changes.

Hung Wei Lo

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

what does an otyugh sound like? there's no text bubble like the other shouts, and i don't think there's a sound made a la talon silverwing...

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Haggard
Well, theres one use. Brownies for whoever comes up with another!
Wasting a skill slot.... now wheres this brownie?

Why make it an IWAY for pets... the majority of the time its you thats dead because to use a pet you have to drop practically all means of self preservation. At which point the pet just stands over your body like a pillock and does nothing.

vaxmor

vaxmor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Ascalon

R/

the skill is fine - learn 2 play.

The Hand Of Death

The Hand Of Death

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cavalon

The Last Pirates (SaVY)

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by vaxmor
the skill is fine - learn 2 play.
Then with your masterful knowledge of the game and this skill in particular, tell us who are all in the dark how you use this skill.

Lordhelmos

Lordhelmos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sentients of Shadow (noir)

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hand Of Death
Then with your masterful knowledge of the game and this skill in particular, tell us who are all in the dark how you use this skill.
My masterful knowledge says you don't use it because it sucks.

Amy Awien

Amy Awien

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hand Of Death
... tell us who are all in the dark how you use this skill.
Select a target foe, press the button for the skill, dang, all pets in your group have +20 AL. You need to be relatively close though, approx. short-bow range, but it will complain if you're out of range.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bale_Shadowscar
I want to meet Otyugh someday :P
You sure about that?

In D&D an Otyugh is more a creature then a person.

vaxmor

vaxmor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Ascalon

R/

nicely put amy.