19 Jul 2006 at 21:59 - 3
Wow, are you going to tell me how to eat a banana next? I keep getting stuck after I peel it and don't know what to do after that point.
Also, what the heck is this:
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10. Don't go afk. If your whole team dies are you are afk and alive, be prepared to get cursed out (especially if there are golds). If you absolutely have to go afk, die first. Or better yet, map out.
So instead of staying alive, I should kill myself? Because it's much better to all be dead in the Fissure of Woe instead of having the AFKer having a chance of coming in and Rebirthing the entire team because they accidentally aggroed some mob running around?
19 Jul 2006 at 22:12 - 4
I've been running chests in Nahpui Quarter lately, and it's loads of fast-paced fun. You don't need any condition removal, hex removal, or Balanced Stance. You don't have to worry about patrols either. It's a great place to start running chests I think. Just don't get too far ahead or behind the group. Be mindful of the power in numbers, since you want to distribute the damage taken amongst the party members. I've seen good runners from every class make this run.
I use a W/Mo and the following build: Sprint, Defensive Stance, Endure Pain, Healing Signet, Healing Hands, Healing Breeze, Mending, Res Sig. I spread my points out in Tactics, Strength, and Healing. Other good warrior skills to bring are Charge and Shields Up.
There's a few drawbacks from this run. The chests are only Canthan chests so they won't count towards your chest farmer title. Only about 1 in 5 chests are gold so leeching can be a problem. Usually if you ask nicely people won't leech chests though. At least half of the golds I find aren't even max damage. It hurts to get that req. 8, 15>50 rare axe with only 6-27 damage on it.
19 Jul 2006 at 23:02 - 5
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Originally Posted by Kalki
I use a W/Mo and the following build: Sprint, Defensive Stance, Endure Pain, Healing Signet, Healing Hands, Healing Breeze, Mending, Res Sig. I spread my points out in Tactics, Strength, and Healing. Other good warrior skills to bring are Charge and Shields Up.
Do you really need that many healing skills..?
Here's my W/Mo Chest running build, I use this for Raisu.
Charge
Sprint
Shield's Up!
Healing Signet
Endure Pain
Holy Veil
Remove Conditions
Rebirth
Attributes in Strength, Tactics.
Usually the last guy alive, rebirthing everyone.
Works for me.
19 Jul 2006 at 23:04 - 6
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Originally Posted by Zinger314
Also a note: ANY profession can Chest Run, even if they aren't Warrior or Ranger primary (if you have both campaigns)
Go Ranger Secondary, get 12 Wilderness Survival, and use Dodge, Zojun's Haste, and Storm Chaser. (Troll Uguent is optional). You'll be able to keep running near indefinately, regardless of your class.
I often outrun Warriors with those skills. 
Ok, a race. Me, you and FoW. Very few chest runners have the knowledge of how to get round alone. They also don't know there limits. As a R/Mo with no condition removal, Cripple + Berserkers = Dead. Many warriors on the other hand seem to see patrols including Skeleton Icehands as a challenge, the sad thing is they usually escape as the berserkers rampage after the 1 behind them. If you asked a typical W/Mo who does chest running round FoW to get past the Ele/Mes group and the first Skeleton group, you can guarantee the majority would run through them and die halfway, possibly they get lucky and they start fighting and ignore you. Ask a smarter runner (or 1 who's done solo Forest Farming), you pull the skeletons into the shadows, let them brawl and run past.
Just because any profession can run to droks doesn't mean any profession can run chests.
19 Jul 2006 at 23:35 - 7
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Originally Posted by Evilsod
Ok, a race. Me, you and FoW. Very few chest runners have the knowledge of how to get round alone. They also don't know there limits. As a R/Mo with no condition removal, Cripple + Berserkers = Dead. Many warriors on the other hand seem to see patrols including Skeleton Icehands as a challenge, the sad thing is they usually escape as the berserkers rampage after the 1 behind them. If you asked a typical W/Mo who does chest running round FoW to get past the Ele/Mes group and the first Skeleton group, you can guarantee the majority would run through them and die halfway, possibly they get lucky and they start fighting and ignore you. Ask a smarter runner (or 1 who's done solo Forest Farming), you pull the skeletons into the shadows, let them brawl and run past.
Just because any profession can run to droks doesn't mean any profession can run chests.
If you can chest run the FoW, you don't need a guide. 
19 Jul 2006 at 23:59 - 8
Biggest thing is People that are so afriad of lossing 1 key that they NEVER open a chest first.
If you get too many of these in a group..You just get to a chest and BOOM the run is over...
This was Literally happened to me in Pve Tombs. We cleared out first map, got to second map, clearedi t out til got to a chest. Then the whole run just stopped and everyone just started saying "No, YOU OPEN IT, I'm not wasting MY KEYS" to each other...Half the group rage quit, and the run was over..
20 Jul 2006 at 02:43 - 9
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Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125
Do you really need that many healing skills..?
I don't need that much healing, but I bring it for other people that might be in trouble, particulary it's for helping people with a poor running build. Also, Nahpui Quarter is a brute force run with very little need for finesse or pauses so the extra healing helps the run go quicker. For runs in FoW, Raisu, etc... I'd surely bring a different build.
20 Jul 2006 at 04:16 - 10
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Originally Posted by myswheels
Chest running is getting more popular, and as a result we are seeing an increase in the number of inexperienced runners. Which means.. it's time for a guide
Rules:
1. Know the Area. You have to counter what the area will throw at you. Examples: hex removal for kurzick runs, balanced stance for the southeastern luxon areas, condition and hex removal for Raisu.
2. Wait for patrols. Ideally you only want to run through one group, and end up somewhere that you can rest and recharge your skills/energy. Watch the patrol patterns and wait for the ideal time to run through.
3. Use your speed boost. I see this all the time, if you don't boost your speed then the mobs will chase you for a long time. Sprint, let them stop following, and rest.
4. Don't bring aggro to your teammates. This usually happens to those who don't follow rule 3. Your teammates are all resting and recharging, and you slowly run and join them..bringing a patrol with you. This is a good way to get cursed out. Also don't jump the gun and run through a patrol that is very close to your group, they may well see your teammates and attack.
5. Don't spread disease. When you have disease on you, stay away from your teammates. If you get too close, you will give it to them. Not very nice, and also a good way to get cursed out.
6. Don't zone. This is the ultimate way to garner the hate of your party. Forgot your keys? Forgot a skill? Done running? Map out and join the next group.
7. Res your teammates/bring a res. If they are in a ressable position, then res them. Not only will they appreciate it, more bodies running = less hits for you. If you die in an unressable position, don't complain. When everyone is dead you will res at the shrine and be able to continue.
8. Bring a running build. This seems obvious, but if you have to beg the warriors in the party to wait and Charge! you for every patrol/chest..then you don't have a running build.
9. Communicate. If you open a chest or see one opened, report to the team (if they aren't all with you) where it is and what color ("gold at shrooms", "grape at dead end", etc).
10. Don't go afk. If your whole team dies are you are afk and alive, be prepared to get cursed out (especially if there are golds). If you absolutely have to go afk, die first. Or better yet, map out.
11. Bring keys. At least 5, if you want to complete the run.
and the most important rule of all:
12: OPEN A CHEST. There is nothing sadder than to see a party of 8 reach a chest, and having everyone just stand there. So to all of you leeches out there, stop being cheap and open a chest once in a while. If you take turns opening chests, the run moves 10x faster and everyone gets just as many golds. Unfortunately, I think only friends and guildies will ever experience this kind of efficiency due to the number of leeches in the general gw population.
This is why I do chest runs with people i know. There are too many morons who think patrols make your regen faster.
20 Jul 2006 at 07:35 - 11
i ran with my assassin 100 times to get the title of treasure hunter from raisu palace
USed only henchies was faster Avg time was 3 minutes per 2 chests
Figured out 5 to 6 places where the chest is there
20 Jul 2006 at 07:44 - 12
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Originally Posted by Former Ruling
Biggest thing is People that are so afriad of lossing 1 key that they NEVER open a chest first.
If you get too many of these in a group..You just get to a chest and BOOM the run is over...
This was Literally happened to me in Pve Tombs. We cleared out first map, got to second map, clearedi t out til got to a chest. Then the whole run just stopped and everyone just started saying "No, YOU OPEN IT, I'm not wasting MY KEYS" to each other...Half the group rage quit, and the run was over..
That's so incredibly childish. People always amaze me.
20 Jul 2006 at 07:51 - 13
So leeching is what? (im not familiar with GW terms.. i just play the game)
And whats with the 'you open the chest first because this somehow affects me'?
20 Jul 2006 at 07:57 - 14
sometimes i use my Rit to chest run fow. yes its not that tough as the warrior but know your place in the party (and that's either at the back or in the middle surrounded by warrios -_-) and you can make it past the spider cave.
Vengeful Was Khanhei
Vengeful Weapon
Resilient Weapon
Soothing Memories
Storm Chaser
Generous Was Tsungrai
(Troll)
(SQ)
once i got snared by an icehand, i had 4 berserkers, 2 bonds and an icehand on me but i survived thx to VwK >_<
20 Jul 2006 at 08:08 - 15
and that would be why im making an Rt/R (Zomg Its Purple Man)
20 Jul 2006 at 08:14 - 16
I didn't know people did chest runs with people they don't know!!!
20 Jul 2006 at 08:18 - 17
Indeed, I always run with people I know or solo..
20 Jul 2006 at 09:42 - 18
after the chest run i usually head to the forest for shard farming... 25 gold, a guaranteed run past the 3 shadows and skelies.. its very profitable =D
20 Jul 2006 at 12:01 - 19
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Originally Posted by Evilsod
Ask a smarter runner (or 1 who's done solo Forest Farming), you pull the skeletons into the shadows, let them brawl and run past.
*giggles heartily*
20 Jul 2006 at 14:01 - 20
congratulations to all the immature dorks.
You have an internet connection an account on GWG and the ability to post pointless sarcastic belittling comments. Step in line with the many other dorks out there who feel the need to act like children to prove how much of a toughie they are.
Myswheels made the thread to lay down the basics and give people a little insight. You want to add something, add more information. Not "omg i tell me how i eat a bannana".
Congratulations you're a chump, and you dont know everything, there comes a time when you'll be curious on a topic you have no knowledge about. And you want to read up on that and read information, not page after page of children talking smack aruging "batman can beat spiderman"
What about the kiting thread, it was about kiting, thanks to whoever made that. many of us know it already, some dont, we dont need dorks saying "durr of course you run away from tanks"
Thank you Myswheel for making a thread on a now popular form of farming and title gaining.
20 Jul 2006 at 14:08 - 21
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Originally Posted by Seissor
congratulations to all the immature dorks.
You have an internet connection an account on GWG and the ability to post pointless sarcastic belittling comments. Step in line with the many other dorks out there who feel the need to act like children to prove how much of a toughie they are.
I have bad news for you; Trolls have their ears only to listen to themselves. Your words are nothing but food to them.
20 Jul 2006 at 15:37 - 22
I chestrun in witmans folly (quick golds, I sell for identify) with germans, and they use /roll 100 to determine who opens the chest. works too.
20 Jul 2006 at 15:46 - 23
I been doing chest runs and any type of run ever since drok runs started, so I hardly ever die. I guess I can say that I'm an experienced runner ^^. Funny thing is that I'm almost *always* the first person to open a chest since every1 is just sitting there and waiting for someone else to open it instead because they're afraid to lose their keys...
20 Jul 2006 at 15:56 - 24
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Originally Posted by Carl Butanananowski
So leeching is what? (im not familiar with GW terms.. i just play the game)
And whats with the 'you open the chest first because this somehow affects me'?
People wait for one person to open the chest-if it has purple items, most of the people won't "waste" a key on that chest.
20 Jul 2006 at 16:16 - 25
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Originally Posted by Seissor
congratulations to all the immature dorks.
You have an internet connection an account on GWG and the ability to post pointless sarcastic belittling comments. Step in line with the many other dorks out there who feel the need to act like children to prove how much of a toughie they are.
Myswheels made the thread to lay down the basics and give people a little insight. You want to add something, add more information. Not "omg i tell me how i eat a bannana".
Congratulations you're a chump, and you dont know everything, there comes a time when you'll be curious on a topic you have no knowledge about. And you want to read up on that and read information, not page after page of children talking smack aruging "batman can beat spiderman"
What about the kiting thread, it was about kiting, thanks to whoever made that. many of us know it already, some dont, we dont need dorks saying "durr of course you run away from tanks"
Thank you Myswheel for making a thread on a now popular form of farming and title gaining.
Awww...
Maybe he should have posted this in the Farming forum then, just a thought.
20 Jul 2006 at 16:47 - 26
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Originally Posted by Evilsod
Ok, a race. Me, you and FoW. Very few chest runners have the knowledge of how to get round alone.
Sure, I'll take you on. I solo chest run FoW all the time. I'm also always the last one alive when I go in a group. Over 300 chest runs in FoW and counting.
You do make some very good points, though. Knowing the mobs is a key to success in a chest run. I usually run FoW with a R/Mo yet somehow I outlive the wamos. Maybe something to do with them running wrecklessly into skeleton armies. Or when I tell them that a certain chest inside the wailing forest 2nd entrace is a chest of death and they go for it anyway then expect me to rez them.
To all would be chest runners: The agro bubble is your friend. Keep enemies out of when possible.
20 Jul 2006 at 19:44 - 27
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So leeching is what? (im not familiar with GW terms.. i just play the game)
And whats with the 'you open the chest first because this somehow affects me'?
Leeching is when you don't do anything for the group, but still get the reward. Thus you "leeched" off of the groups efforts.
In Chest Runs, it means you never open any chest until its confirmed to be a gold chest. Thus you "leeched" off the group by never having to risk wasting your keys on purple chests.
I'll explain the gold chest purple chest thing more...When you Spawn into an instance, chest positions and chest contents are determined at that time. Its either marked a "Purple Chest" or a "Gold Chest". That means EVERY ITEM that chest gives to anyone in your party is either always purple, or always gold. So one person in the party has to "Risk" a key to open the chest to see if its purple or gold. If its purple noone has opens the chest and he wasted a key (because purples suck), but if its gold, then the rest of the party will take turns opening it.
30 Jul 2006 at 20:32 - 28
I'd like to add a couple things..
First of all, with the usage of /roll 100. This is fine really, BUT there should be a general conditional. Out of a party of 8, if one person has already opened a chest, they should be exempt from further rolls. There are no areas in which chest running is popular where you will encounter more than 8 chests, so it is not fair for those unlucky saps that seem to roll 8 and below every time. (I see this way too often.)
Also, in relation to Raisu Palace, where the leeching is ridiculous and the unknowledgeable runners abound, it is, in my experience much more conducive to full party survival to take Wary Stance. Aggro is drug from one side of the map to the other because of Debilitating Shot. Utilize your full skill list, and take something that PREVENTS you from sitting on 0 energy, hence dragging aggro to your fellow runners.
30 Jul 2006 at 21:28 - 29
Opening a chest first often means you get your gold first with no problems, and even though you may die, you don't have to worry about someone stealing your drop, and you don't have to slowly die watching the words "someone else is using this chest" only to open the chest right as your health drops to zero.
The most annoying thing is groups who don't resurrect people, or leave you if you try to resurrect someone. I'll admit, I don't go out of my way to resurrect someone if I know it's gonna make us both die, or if they died at the beginning of the run where nobody with any running skills at all should die. Other than that, I always try to res people. This problem seems to be most common in fissure of woe, because there are few spots where you can't wait for the patrol to move and resurrect someone, but most chest runners there are selfish.
31 Jul 2006 at 03:09 - 30
I'll admit that I try not to open chests first, but I generally check at least 1 chest during a Raisu run. However, something that really irritates me is when people stop after a run thru enemies and there is a chest nearby and they start to heal- then some idiot aggros all of the surrounding teammates in order to get them to move and open a chest.
22 Aug 2006 at 22:59 - 31
assassin recall running is pretty good also
22 Aug 2006 at 23:23 - 32
I Chest run alot, and i think this guide is very good for newbies, wanting to learn to chest run, i ussually use the same build for every run, unless i run solo, i take out res and put in another skill, i'm ussualy the last person left when i go chest running, and i always help out the newbies, and always try and res, if you res people, they tend to chat to you, then you become ingame friends, then you have a chest running partner, it helps alot running with someone you 'know' as you are more likely to be ressed, and you can have a laugh on the way. and chest runs become more fun, even if you get a few grape.
22 Aug 2006 at 23:39 - 33
I don't think theres ettiquite to chest running...
Its a cheap way of farming and the people who do it can act as cheap, rude, disrespectful as they want.
I've run chests only during the double gold weekend...
23 Aug 2006 at 11:16 - 34
I ussually chest run with 'Crazy Germans'. When we run we always use the /roll 100 command. Whoever gets the lowest number opens the chest. Only problem is when someone doesnt roll the 'Crazy Germans' run around the chest dying. Its so very funny to watch.
23 Aug 2006 at 20:27 - 35
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Originally Posted by Kalki
It hurts to get that req. 8, 15>50 rare axe with only 6-27 damage on it.
Or a 15^50 r7 summit axe 20/20 +30 only 7-14 dmg
as someone else said, do it with people you know. there are far too many idiots out there. if you find people who are good at chest running, it is usually very easy to make friends with them and do it on a regular basis. provided youre pretty good, yourself.
23 Aug 2006 at 20:48 - 36
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Originally Posted by some guy
assassin recall running is pretty good also
Until the guy you casted recall on runs into a big mob and gets killed, then pulls you to death with him..
I don't get why people are scared to open chests...just about equal chance of getting that 100k+XX ecto drop as waiting for another person to open it..
23 Aug 2006 at 22:16 - 37
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Originally Posted by Ezekiel Prophet
Or a 15^50 r7 summit axe 20/20 +30 only 7-14 dmg
as someone else said, do it with people you know. there are far too many idiots out there. if you find people who are good at chest running, it is usually very easy to make friends with them and do it on a regular basis. provided youre pretty good, yourself.
Just to correct you, it isnt possible to get a 7-14 axe... the max is 6-28, so it cannot exceed 6. :P
23 Aug 2006 at 22:41 - 38
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Originally Posted by Killer Twinblade
Just to correct you, it isnt possible to get a 7-14 axe... the max is 6-28, so it cannot exceed 6. :P
fyi yes it can have 7 as minimum dmg but the max will always be between 14-17
24 Aug 2006 at 01:49 - 39
I think that anet should make the best drop be the first drop out of a chest. so that there is some kind of insentive to open a chest first, even if it might be a purp there is still a better chance to score a req 8 gold chaos axe if you opened first.
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