Black dye being BLACK dye

Benjamus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Near Leeds, Yorkshire, UK

Mo/Me

Sorry but when we shell out nearly 10k for 1 dye, surely it should look BLACK, not dark GREY!!

Wouldnt it be nice if ya armour looked midnight black instead of a cr4ppy charcoaly grey.

/*rant

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

It depends on the armor.

On some armor it's Black, on some armor it's grey. Deal.

GloryFox

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

For 10k I can think of a better color other than Black.

Chilly Ress

Chilly Ress

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kinetic Fusion [kF]

Me/

lime green anyone?

On topic, people buy black dye bcs it goes with everything and it looks 'cool'. Also, it never drops! So, the rarity factor comes into play.

capitalist

capitalist

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

I agree, black should be black.

Don Zardeone

Don Zardeone

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

I had a lot of black dye drops.

PsychoX

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

try adding three blacks together.

lol

GloryFox

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

I hear Two Blacks and a Silver makes an OREO color.

Rakj Grazon

Rakj Grazon

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

In a house on a street

Looking for good guild

i have a solution...if you dont like the color then dont "shell" out 10k for it. Also wtf is with the semi leet...if your gunna write in leet then plz write in full leet...


(|24pp'/

Benjamus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Near Leeds, Yorkshire, UK

Mo/Me

sorry nerd man

monk tats are midnight black, spot on, but the armour aint (well judges aint)

blood4blood

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Agreed, black should be black. And btw, black does drop, it's just rare. (Pre-searing dye-farming is probably the easiest way to find black, btw. I've got 4 or 5 on a pre- char I made a month ago.)

Beat_Go_Stick

Beat_Go_Stick

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

I hear Three Blacks and an Orange make a magic flying pony that shoots laser beams from its eyes.

wsmcasey

wsmcasey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right behind you.

HeRo

W/Rt

I have 15k canthan armor on my Ranger that is normally a tan color. Silver dye makes it a beautiful white, but black dye makes it charcoal grey. I wasted 40k on black dye to try it out on the armor, then decided it looked like crap and went back to silver dye.

zelira

Elite Guru

Join Date: Jan 2006

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beat_Go_Stick
I hear Three Blacks and an Orange make a magic flying pony that shoots laser beams from its eyes.
LIES!!!
It's Three Blacks and a Red.

Yeah I got that problem too.
Black on 1.5 Kurzick Necro = dark grey
Black on the Desert Collector = grey

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chilly Ress
lime green anyone?

On topic, people buy black dye bcs it goes with everything and it looks 'cool'. Also, it never drops! So, the rarity factor comes into play.
Lime it turns out Emerald Green not lime.

Shadowfox1125

Shadowfox1125

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

PST

W/

Pink is a manly color.

'nuff said.

Clerihew

Clerihew

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

At the bar

Dragons of Ice and Flame [Ice]

Mo/

I think the main problem is that often people don't realise which armours take the dye well and which don't. Black dye means research people! There are lots of pages out there showing dye on the different armour for the characters.

I sympathise with the OP though. I got a black dye drop in pre sear with my first chara and - not knowing it was rare - dyed her ascalon top. I still have it.

I think we should have a special 'rage page' in the forums for people to vent their frustrations in!

capitalist

capitalist

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

My female rit 15k imperial is dyed:

Black+black+silver+silver

which equals

grey with a purpleish tint.

inscribed

inscribed

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

I tried to use a black dye on my 15k warrior luxon armor... it came out purple.


I agree, if I use a black dye, I want to see my armor turn black.

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rakj Grazon
(|24pp'/
wow i totally have no idea what that sasy *watches his own leet title disappear*

a rage forum, yeah that'll be good. Auto thread locking after 1 hour!!! wooo!!!

Leighwyn

Leighwyn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Seattle

Limbo

Mo/E

looks like 'crappy' to me

CorstedPirate

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Knights of the Void

Mo/

Honestly, the only point of black dye is for mixing. Why make an active effort to look like everybody else? That is what you are doing when you dye your armor black, in my humble opinion. I guess I'm just tired of seeing tons of characters with black armor.

floppinghog

floppinghog

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

pit of brimstone

Squad Six Six Six [ssss]

A/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by capitalist
My female rit 15k imperial is dyed:

Black+black+silver+silver

which equals

grey with a purpleish tint.
you realise 2 blacks and 2 silvers is the exact same thing as 1 each?... what a waste that was.

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

*sigh*
Why do people complain about this? Do you really want armour to dye the same colour regardless of armour type? If you don't like the way that black dye looks on your armour, don't use it! There has been a lot of work done on dyes (mainly two dye mixes) to give gamers a look at how many types of armour dyes. Have a look at it for inspiration, and create something unique for once.

Hell, if you are that concerned about showing off your leet status, then 3x black + 1x other colour would do that, seriously, it's much much more expensive than 1 simple black dye pot.

Blackhawk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beat_Go_Stick
I hear Three Blacks and an Orange make a magic flying pony that shoots laser beams from its eyes.
Add a Dye Remover and you get a Bright Pink Pony

MirageCloud

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

HoA

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by floppinghog
you realise 2 blacks and 2 silvers is the exact same thing as 1 each?... what a waste that was.
wouldnt black+black+silver+silver give you a 75%silver, 25%black result?

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

It's black dye (liquid used for staining items, and effected by the color of the cloth already), not liquid-portal-to-the-darkest-corner-of-the-underworld.

Could use a standardization change, but not much else.

Slainster

Slainster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

black is not a color

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

A/

For the cheap ones here: If you turn your monitor off, you have nothing but black colors!

nomercy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chilly Ress
lime green anyone?

On topic, people buy black dye bcs it goes with everything and it looks 'cool'. Also, it never drops! So, the rarity factor comes into play.
I've had 2 Black's drop already.

GUE Tech

GUE Tech

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Slainster
black is not a color
Black is every color.

AnnaCloud9

AnnaCloud9

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Minnesota

Well if you're bored, then you're boring!

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by capitalist
My female rit 15k imperial is dyed:

Black+black+silver+silver

which equals

grey with a purpleish tint.

This is the same as Black + Silver just so you know. Psychologically it isn't, but mechanically it is.

Slainster

Slainster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by GUE Tech
Black is every color.
Black is the absence of color and white is the blending of all color

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

Black Dye is interesting and I think it shows a lot of insecurity about people (though not always). Black is the plainest, most dull colour and the most expensive and rarest. However people will use it because if they dye their wammo's FoW a colour other than black, they'll only be 95% leet because its not expensive to the max. Even dragon masks were saturated in black dye at the last event.

Taurucis

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The edge of reason

I don't play any more.

W/E

Black dye shows up stormy purple on 1.5k pyromancer.

IMO bunches of people dye their armor black because they think it looks "evil" and they want to seem evil. My ele's armor is only dyed black because I like the way it contrasts the white on his robes... and it goes with his hair.

GUE Tech

GUE Tech

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Slainster
Black is the absence of color and white is the blending of all color
Sorry I was thinking pigments not rgb. In which case white is red, green, and blue at full intensity together.

Aside from RGB video, when a pigment reflects a color isn't it actually all the the colors but the color you see.

Like if an object is green, it absorbs all the colors but green, and green is reflected so that is what you percieve it to be, but what color really is it?

So in that case isn't black all the colors absorbed and none reflected? No color reflected would be the absence of color, but the colors not reflected (absorbed) would be all the colors.

inscribed

inscribed

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by GUE Tech
Sorry I was thinking pigments not rgb. In which case white is red, green, and blue at full intensity together.

Aside from RGB video, when a pigment reflects a color isn't it actually all the the colors but the color you see.

Like if an object is green, it absorbs all the colors but green, and green is reflected so that is what you percieve it to be, but what color really is it?

So in that case isn't black all the colors absorbed and none reflected? No color reflected would be the absence of color, but the colors not reflected (absorbed) would be all the colors.
Correct.

When talking about pigments, white is the absence of color. When talking about light and wavelengths, black is the absence of color.

J-Nicos

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

King Arthurs Knights Of Justice [KaK]

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clerihew

I sympathise with the OP though. I got a black dye drop in pre sear with my first chara and - not knowing it was rare - dyed her ascalon top. I still have it.
Haha the same thing happened to me when i first got it... only i died a crapy shield.... and never got another black die since.

Although i recently bought one to put on my 15k kurzick armor.. and yep it came out grey, lol...so i agree about that... but it still looks better than the red dye that came out pink, lol.

floppinghog

floppinghog

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

pit of brimstone

Squad Six Six Six [ssss]

A/Me

in pigments.... black = all color.

in visible light.... white = all colors...

Get it right... nublets

(yes i know someone was already corrected, i felt the need to rub it in.)

Tobias Funke

Tobias Funke

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Following of Xanthar

Me/N

Anyone else think that its rediculous that black dye costs 50-100 times as much as other dyes except silver? It's not like it has any effect on the game. Dying your armor doesn't make it function better; unlike 15k armors which are generally better looking than 1.5k armor, stuff dyed black doesn't look any better than other colors. It's best used as a mixer. I've played the game over a year and have NEVER gotten a black dye drop. I'm not saying dye should be free, but for something 100% cosmetic 9-10K per black dye is plain silly. I fail to see why they felt the need to drive down sup. absorbtion runes prices but not black dye.