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Pure Healer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Puppet Killers

Rt/R

20 Jul 2006 at 23:05 - 1

I am just posting this thread to ask a opinion, I don/t want any arguments, just hints/tips.

I only do healing as a Monk, I have alot of experience, and I was wondering if I was on the correct track do healing success.

Monk/Mesmer

Attributes:

Healing-16
Divine-13
Inspiration- (I have not put any into it yet, I will soon)

Armor: Droks Energy Tatoos

Runes:

Superior Rune of Vigor
Minor Rune of Healing
Minor Divine Rune
(I will update these soon also)

Weapon: Hale Holy Staff of Shelter, 22 Dmg.
( I never use this one, I forgot the one I usully use. It hales the chargeing time, and it is 22 Dmg though)

Skills:

Healing Touch
Heal Other
Healing Seed
Heal Party
WoH -Elite-
Energy Tap (Will get Inspired Hex)
Healing breeze
Orison

( I have more skills, duh, but this is what I usully equip. Depending on the area, I sometimes use Mend Ailment and others)

I need opinions please!

I do most of your healing with WoH, and breeze, and the others..and for Warriors I put seed on them.

zelira

Elite Guru

Join Date: Jan 2006

Me/

20 Jul 2006 at 23:22 - 2

Dwayna's Kiss? 5pt heal with bonuses if they're hexed or enchanted.

Also need a superior healing to get lvl16 in healing.

R_Frost

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

Me/

21 Jul 2006 at 00:20 - 3

yeah get the scalp thats gives you +1 to healing and put a superior heal rune on it to get to 16 in healing prayers.my normal skill bar is

Word of Healing
Dwayna Kiss
Orision
vigorous spirit
healing breeze
heal other
heal party or mend ailment
resurect(only because ive seen alot of people not having a rez skill lately)

i use an insightful healing staff of fortitude which with my tatoo armor gives me 52 base energy. i also have the factions end game wayward healing wand with +5 energy and a normal +12 energy 20/20 healing focus for 54 energy. another weapon slot has the wayward wand and the +12/+15energy/-1 regen focus for that emergency energy and if things get bad on my 4th slot i have the -1 regen focus with a +15/-1 regen wand for even more energy, 79 total energy. but ill only switch out if for some strange reason my energy drops down to 10

Kuja

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

MA

Kame

Mo/W

21 Jul 2006 at 00:24 - 4

What exactly do you need an opinion on? Common build with all the obvious skills except skills like healing breeze instead of dwayna's kiss or another energy management skill. This will do for PVE and thats seems to be the extent of what this is for. I'm still not quite sure what your expecting because there are a million threads like this one with 99% having the roughly same build.

moko

??uo??o??

Join Date: May 2006

21 Jul 2006 at 08:53 - 5

take breeze out, it sucks :/

but beside, yeah, it looks good and should work fine.

and if you only use woh and breeze (which should be kiss or orison, or both), you can kick some others out for like, hex removal, condition removal, or a free signet like devotion. though, seeing as youll change energy tab for inspired hex, there you have your hex removal. :P so maybe..depending on the situation..meh

use whatever floats your boat, and dont try builds which you cant use.

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

21 Jul 2006 at 09:12 - 6

Use healing touch instead of breeze and yu only need word not other as well might want to put party in there and it is not alway nessary to have sup rune of healing a minor will do.The majors are better now.

sno

Look into the Eye.

Join Date: Oct 2005

Detroit, Mi

Oh No Not These Guys [uhoh]

Mo/

21 Jul 2006 at 09:13 - 7

Why don't people ever think condition and hex removal is necessary?

Also drop e.tap, it's an insanely long cast time for a very minor gain, It's barely useful on a mesmer with fast casting, let alone a monk.

K U J A

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Montreal

Lords Lonely Lovers

Mo/Me

21 Jul 2006 at 12:25 - 8

If you want a pretty balanced build, use this one

Orison
Dwayna's Kiss
Heal Touch
WoH
Heal Party
Holy Veil
Mend Condition
Divine Spirit

16 Healing
13 Divine

Basically, if you arent spamming skills,you wont have energy problems. If you are spamming skills, use Divine Spirit..

HEALING BREEZE SUCKS, ALL OF YOU MONKS AND WAMMOS MUST LEARN THIS SOONER OR LATER. DONT EVEN USE MONK HEALING SKILLS ON WAMMOS. ARGH!!!1(RAGE)!!111!1!11

For those that dont know how Holy Veil works, cast it on someone that has a hex on him, and remove it right after

murphyj

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

TDR

W/Mo

21 Jul 2006 at 12:29 - 9

Why does healing breeze suck? =o

K U J A

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Montreal

Lords Lonely Lovers

Mo/Me

21 Jul 2006 at 12:50 - 10

Because its a relatively small heal for a big cost and you dont get it when you want, you get it over time. End of story. Remove it from the game IMO.

moko

??uo??o??

Join Date: May 2006

21 Jul 2006 at 12:55 - 11

it costs 10
it can be stripped
the casting time isnt too funny either
it does not heal for much
it will mostly heal when its too late

=> War has 50 health left
you cast Healing Breeze
War gets some pips..up to 70..he dies.
NOW, while he is dead, Healing Breeze WOULD heal ihm, but it wont, since he is dead.
=> you wasted 10 energy on a dead party member

so?

=> War has 50 health left
you cast WoH
War has 150 health left
War gets attacked
you use Woh again
War is at full health
Enemies are dead
=> you used 10 energy and they are still alive

... lol, i know this sucked, but its true =P its crap..only useful for farming, and running to an extend..

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

21 Jul 2006 at 13:03 - 12

Heal other and WoH do the same job, don't really need the former if you have WoH

Pick Me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Thornill, ON, Canada

THE CANUCK MONKS (TCM)

W/R

21 Jul 2006 at 13:52 - 13

Sorry, but I must disagree.

If you cast Healing Breeze when someone is down below 50% of health, what on earth are you thinking?

Healing Breeze is to counter hexes/conditions (if you have no condition/hex removal).

Heal Other is not the same as Word of Healing. It is not an elite, it doesn't get better when the allie is less than 50% and it costs more. If you have a WHAMO with 800 life, you'll have to wait until the WHAMO is down to 400 life and then WoH will give a little bit (life bar picture). Heal Other you can cast before that. Both get bonuses from Divine Favor.

I would drop Healing Touch and Energy Tap. The maximum amount of attributes you can have in inspiration is 3. Not worth it. Drop Heal Party too, and pickup Vigorus Spirit, Mend Ailment, Rebirth.

You can survive without hex removal, but the best one is remove hex (divine favor heals as well). It costs the same as Holy Veil, has 1 second longer to cast, but 5 seconds less recharge time.

And yes, you need Superior Healing Rune in order to obtain 16 healing (with a +1 Healing Prayer head scar).

You can sub Remove Hex and take out healing breeze, but like I said, you can get away without a hex removal. But condition removal is a must.

holden

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

[NICE]

Mo/

21 Jul 2006 at 14:35 - 14

breeze is worthless on a healers bar. if it cost 5 it would be different. but it does not. degen is rarely worth worrying about in pve. one quick 5 energy heal at 16 puts a pretty good damper on it.

remove hex is slow. with mesmer secondary he should at least take inspired hex. i'm glad to see he's planning on it. holy veil would be fine but i like the energy return from inspired/revealed.
i like the elite expel hexes in a healers build. you could drop woh and keep heal other.

i agree that you don't need word of heal and heal other. seed's not terrible. heal party is an energy sucker and seldom do i need to heal the whole party at one time. really hard missions maybe.

i also agree that dwayna's kiss is great to have. fits nicely with orison.

i'm glad the build has healing touch. heal touch is for you. it's your heal when things get tough. you would have to have a very very good reason to not fit it into your bar.

you can survive without hex removal. and condition removal as well. but why would you?

xiao1985

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

22 Jul 2006 at 13:29 - 15

inspire hex is a very nice non elite en mgmt... also can try channeling

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

22 Jul 2006 at 16:46 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by sno

Why don't people ever think condition and hex removal is necessary? Becuase if we don't bring it...no one will?

...?

Pure Healer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Puppet Killers

Rt/R

22 Jul 2006 at 17:43 - 17

I have Inspired Hex now, and working on a Superior Rune. I hardly ever use breeze, I just usully do Heal other.

I have a Skelp design that is +1 Healing.
I have also been searching for a Brohns Staff/Rod.

I always bring 1 condition/ hex removal. I hate it when ppl freak out that they died and totall blame it on me. I only Rez when all enemies are dead.
I use Ribirth as Rez, should I use Dwaynas Light, or go back to Restore?

So I should get Dwaynas kiss insteed of Breeze then?
I usully dont need to use Orison, since I have Heal Other and my other ones.

PsychoX

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

22 Jul 2006 at 17:56 - 18

If you take inspired hex, you will want to put some into inpsiration magic.. so you get the most energy per hex removal.

if you want a good staff, go out for a Scar Eater. 20/20, hp +60.

Helll is for Heroes

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

True Cinema

W/

22 Jul 2006 at 18:01 - 19

you want signet of devotion to get out of energy-tapped situations

Pure Healer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Puppet Killers

Rt/R

22 Jul 2006 at 23:58 - 20

I have 4 in Inspiration now. I just did it. Im tryng to get a Brohn weapon, but, where do I get a Scar Eater?

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

23 Jul 2006 at 00:18 - 21

I would suggest that you use restore as your res as it ia attributed to healing and rebirth sucks the energy out of you after use.There is a good staff in witmans folly only need five crawl necklaces for it.The one in the scare is kind of hard to get if you don't have all the items needed by the collector look in scrolls of insight for collectors or the guildwiki.org.

To those about breeze it is only good for farming at the higher levels but it is ok at the lower levels say level 1 to 8 or untill you get touch.Then i would use as for hex or condition I would use Dwayna's Kiss or Mend condition or ailment.

God Apprentice

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/N

23 Jul 2006 at 01:35 - 22

Note: This isn't a PvP set-up this is for PvE

Monk/Mesmer Healer

Attributes
Inspiration Magic: 9
Healing Prayers: 10+1+3
Smiting Prayers: +1 (Minor Smite Rune, pay it no mind)
Protection Prayers: 4+1
Divine Favor: 11+1

Skills

Word Of Healing: Very large Heal, especially if ally is under 50% Health
Orison Of Healing: Basic Heal
Infuse Health: I use this if I have an ally that get caught in a big aggro and being pummeled on
Healing Touch: Only used after an Infuse
Dwaynas Kiss: Good Heal, especially if allies are Hexed, Enchanted or have Conditions on themselves
Mend Condition: Condition Removal
Inspired Hex: This serves a dual purpose, energy management and hex removal. At 9 Inspiration it provides 10 energy
Rebirth: Ressurection Skill (Make sure you DON'T rez in the heat of battle, you will lose all your energy and no energy=no heals)

Equipment
Droknars Forge 1.5k Ascetic Armor (aka Tats)
Kole's Torment (it has the same stats as Wenslauss' Faith)

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

23 Jul 2006 at 01:39 - 23

To God Apprentice look fine I would get Censor top and bottoms with the rest of your tats on or go with Wanderers top and bottoms.

jesh

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

San Diego, CA

Penguin Village

Mo/

24 Jul 2006 at 01:44 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by holden

breeze is worthless on a healers bar. if it cost 5 it would be different. but it does not. degen is rarely worth worrying about in pve. one quick 5 energy heal at 16 puts a pretty good damper on it. You realize that hp regen spells like breeze are the worst possible way to counter degen? A target suffering from -20 degen will not gain any benefit what so ever from a breeze, and you're out 10 energy and the cast time. A quick Reversal of Fortune with boon on, however, will negate some incoming damage, and heal regardless of what amount of degen he's under. There's a reason people don't take healing breeze. It's 10 energy and conditional.

Dwayna's Kiss is a great skill. Awesome in fact. Orison is meh if you ask me. I'd rather take Ethereal Light/Healing Whisper, if I insisted on playing a healing build for some reason.

Grammar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

24 Jul 2006 at 04:27 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helll is for Heroes

you want signet of devotion to get out of energy-tapped situations I used to use Sig of Devotion, but ever since the buff to Sig of Rejuvenation I'll never go back, because you can actually USE Sig of Rejuvenation (1 second cast time FTW!), which makes it superior for both healing and energy management.

For PvE, I usually run my 5e spam build:

-WoH
-Orison
-Dwayna's Kiss
-Sig of Rejuvenation
-Vigorous Spirit
-Mend Ailment
-Divine Boon (situational; use when the s*** hits the fan and you need to do some crazy spike healing on multiple near-dead targets; DO NOT LEAVE ON FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME!)
-Rebirth (AFTER-battle rez only)

I can cast non-stop and never run out of energy. The only problem that I run into on occasion is potency, since WoH is my only large heal (no Heal Other or any other 10e spells). Divine Boon, when used sparingly and smartly, solves that little problem.

And I agree with many of the above posters: Healing Breeze sucks for healing monks; never take it.
Although it is a decent self-heal for monk secondaries IMO.

Lowly Peasant

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

24 Jul 2006 at 04:38 - 26

I run this build for healing.
Healing: 12+3
Divine: 12+1+2

I prefer a 15 15 set up since I use the signet's quite a bit.
My main build uses:
Orison
WoH/ I've been playing with Blessed Light since it heals for 115 at my attribute level, and has utility.
Signet of Devotion/Rejuvination (it just depends on what I feel will work best)
Dwayna's Kiss
Healing Touch
Heal party/ a condition or hex removal (I like heal party when more than 3 people need healing)
Restore Life (if you are only going to use it after battle, why not use a good one that gets casters up and running faster?)
My last skill slot is dependant on what I will be encountering, if it's low on enchant removal and hexes I use vigerous spirit.

Also, I hate Healing Breeze. Back when GW first came out I ran a Mo/N and used wells, I would rather go back to that than useless breeze. Also, I only used Heal Other until I got better skills.

holden

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

[NICE]

Mo/

24 Jul 2006 at 16:53 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by jesh

You realize that hp regen spells like breeze are the worst possible way to counter degen?
yes. yes i do. i think worthless is what i said.

Pure Healer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Puppet Killers

Rt/R

25 Jul 2006 at 21:25 - 28

Like I stated, I only rex after a battle, but, if the party is not in a tough situation then I might res dureing. But, 99% of the time I only rez untill enemies are destroyed. So, yes, I agree with what Lowly peasent has to say:

Restore Life (if you are only going to use it after battle, why not use a good one that gets casters up and running faster?)

Like I said, Im a M/Mes so I dont run out of energy often, usually never. I use Inspired Hex alot, and, many of the PPl in my Party get Hexed so it works...when I know the party wont get hexed in a certain area then I do energy Tap, but, Ill try the Signet of Devotion.

I'm STILL trying to get to Brohn Stonehart for the Broh'ns Healign Staff Weapon. I REALLY want it! ty ppl

ender6

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mo/

27 Jul 2006 at 19:03 - 29

While I could certainly help you with your build (skill wise) I will limit myself to addressing your other request:

I'd be more than happy to sell brohn's staff to you for 25k.