Impossible?

Konrow

Konrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

NY, New York

Warlords of Earth [WAR]

I was in RA today to get some faction and take a break from PVE and I was annoying the monk of the other team. While attacking him I noticed that he was a Mo/Me but was suing Monk, Mesmer, and Necromancer skills. I was like hmm maybe i'm seeing things, but then it was happening more often and then, he used two elites! I was and still am really confused. The screenshots are below. The only eddting that i did was putting the 3 together and blacking out the name. I also left the first and last letter showing just to prove its the same guy.

has anyone else seen this or know how its done? is it a bug, exploit, am i seeing things?

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

E/

I believe there is a mesmer skill that allows you to steal the skill/elite from another player, can't remember the name. He stole the life transfer from another player.

Edit: steal probably not the best word. The skill gets replaced with a copy of that players elite skill for x amount of time.

Arcane Mimicry

Shyft the Pyro

Shyft the Pyro

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

NYC, USA

E/Mo

The first thing that pops into my head is Arcane Mimicry, so that the monk could borrow a Life Transfer off a friendly necro. Conversely, Arcane Thievery and Arcane Larceny both steal spells from enemies, so if there was a necro on your team the monk was shutting the necro down with those skills and throwing the stolen skills around to stay alive.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Inspired/Revealed Hex is the more likely explination.

Konrow

Konrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

NY, New York

Warlords of Earth [WAR]

I was thinking the same but there was no necro on my team for sure and i don't there was one on his. Also don't you usually see if the player used arcane mimicry? because i didn't see him use it either so I'm still confused

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Konrow
I was thinking the same but there was no necro on my team for sure and i don't there was one on his. Also don't you usually see if the player used arcane mimicry? because i didn't see him use it either so I'm still confused
Are you sure no one on your team had a Necromancer secondary and drew the Life Transfer out of that?

Today, I've seen a R/E with Meteor Shower and a W/E spamming Flare.

The event is drawing some really, really bad players into the RAs.

Konrow

Konrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

NY, New York

Warlords of Earth [WAR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Are you sure no one on your team had a Necromancer secondary and drew the Life Transfer out of that?

Today, I've seen a R/E with Meteor Shower and a W/E spamming Flare.

The event is drawing some really, really bad players into the RAs.
ah just realized someone did have a necro secondary. Well i guess that solves it. Thanks, i'm not confused anymore.

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Maybe he took it from a secondary necro on your team? Skills like Life Transfer and Wither are popular choices for 2nd profession skill in degen builds. Anyway, if that Mo/Me thinks he can spare the time and energy to cast it, you're not putting enough pressure on the guy.

Cyan The Archer

Cyan The Archer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

R/

But it could be you just seeing things

Kalki

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Summoners of Forgotten Gods

W/Mo

Hah this thread made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Now I know how people feel when I remove Life Transfer with my Inspired Hex on my monk, and cast it back on someone.

fallot

I'm the king

Join Date: Nov 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew: Grand Phallus and Chairman Pro Tempore

Like some others have already said, its Inspired Hex/Revealed Hex.

wsmcasey

wsmcasey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right behind you.

HeRo

W/Rt

There is a 99% chance that it is:

Inspired Hex - Spell
Remove a Hex from target ally and gain 3-13 Energy. For 20 seconds, Inspired Hex is replaced by the Hex that was removed.

I run it on my boon/prot monk if I decide to drop my res sig for hex removal. The nice little energy boost also comes in handy. However, I don't usually use the hex that I stole on other people because it defeats the purpose of stealing energy in the first place if I turn around and use up that energy.

Quantum Duck

Quantum Duck

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Err7

Me/

I do this all the time in Arena. If my Mo/Me is against a Necro and the enemy team isn't doing enough damage to be a threat, I'll Inspired Hex their Life Transfer and throw it back at the the necro with 0 spec just for the fun of it. I did this twice earlier today.

Hollerith

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Works well with Backfire too. If the enemy doesn't notice they have a lvl 0 Backfire on them, they may not cast for 10 seconds.

Seef II

Seef II

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

US

R/Mo

Yeah I do that all the time in aspenwood with ihex... err, ihax.

LouAl

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

the monk *could* have used any number of mesmer spells

Arcane Theivery, Arcane Larceny, Arcane Mimicry, Inspired hex (most likely, as stated above), Revealed Hex (same as inspired)

Really wasteful though because your life transfer will only do -3 and +3 health for 6 seconds @ 10e...not really worth it

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

Inspired hex is a staple of boon monks, and that Mo/Me was using 1 of 2 elites always used by boon Mo/Mes. My l33t detective skills tell me it was inspired/revealed

shardfenix

shardfenix

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Il Power Overwhelming Il [HaX]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherno
I believe there is a mesmer skill that allows you to steal the skill/elite from another player, can't remember the name. He stole the life transfer from another player.

Edit: steal probably not the best word. The skill gets replaced with a copy of that players elite skill for x amount of time.

Arcane Mimicry
Arcane mimicry does not disable another player's skills. It only copies their elite for you.

Arcane Thievery and Arcane Larceny "steal" an opponent's spell (randomly) for up to 30 seconds. He most likely used mimicry on his necro ally.

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

yup, definitely inspired hex. Picked up a life transfer with it and probably had some energy to burn, and figured why not throw a little pain back at the necro?

An added bonus of doing that is that it scares the bejeezus out of some necros, even though the monk is most likely castig it at level 0. A well timed hex thrown back at the necro with something clever thrown into all chat can shut them down better than blackout.

Poison Ivy

Poison Ivy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Toronto

Hopping

Mo/A

Aye, conclusion.

LoKi Foxfire

LoKi Foxfire

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

One Corgi Army {OCA}

R/Rt

Already been said but Inspired Hex. :]

I love using that on my Boon Prot and just confusing people. :3

Lordhelmos

Lordhelmos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sentients of Shadow (noir)

Me/E

Heheh, you can get 6 elite skills on your bar at once in snakes dance with a N/mo:

I had:

Aura of the Lich
Signet of Judgement
Blood is Power
Peace and Harmony
Spiteful Spirit
Spell Breaker

Ahhh.... was sad when I zoned.... >.<

DC_Ross_Dark

DC_Ross_Dark

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Luxembourg

[FcUK] Forgot The Ghostlyyyyy [WM] War Machine

W/E

it's inspired yeah...but he's an idiot if he uses the removed hex. It counts as being used from 0 attrib and is simply a waste of energy.

Lets Get to Healing

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

You want see?

True Gods of War [True]

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by wsmcasey
There is a 99% chance that it is:

Inspired Hex - Spell
Remove a Hex from target ally and gain 3-13 Energy. For 20 seconds, Inspired Hex is replaced by the Hex that was removed.

I run it on my boon/prot monk if I decide to drop my res sig for hex removal. The nice little energy boost also comes in handy. However, I don't usually use the hex that I stole on other people because it defeats the purpose of stealing energy in the first place if I turn around and use up that energy.
And the other 1% is reveal hex.

0mar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Obviously you haven't played much PvP...

There's a dozen ways he could have done, see the above posts.

fallot

I'm the king

Join Date: Nov 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew: Grand Phallus and Chairman Pro Tempore

A boon prot with e-drain in RA isn't going to be carrying anything except Inpired or Revealed. While there are many possibilities, the only ones that aren't far fetched are these two skills.