I've heard some people complaining, saying that Nightfall is coming out too soon and that ANet is not giving the game enough attention since they are putting out a new x-pac each 6 months..
I remember an interview I heard during E3 where ANet confirmed that they actually have 2 teams that work on the xpacs.. so each xpac gets a whole year and they release them 6 months apart from eachother..
hope that calms your worries
To those who are worried that NF is coming too soon
kamolahy
Hollerith
I'm worried I won't have enough time to do everything I want in Factions.
OMFGimCUTE
me too, factions just came out
Loviatar
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Originally Posted by Hollerith
I'm worried I won't have enough time to do everything I want in Factions.
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this gives you the chance to say chapter *x* is not what i want but luckily i still have enough to do on what i have to tide me over to the next chapter which i might go wild over
Ventius Hozza
This is ANet's way to say secretly to themselves:
"Sh*t, we made factions too boring. Other squad! Go make your chapter really really fast and rush it as much as you can! We need to entertain the diminishing audience! Go go post-haste! Must...make...more...chapters..."
I'm guessing that they have to make chapters quickly one after the other to keep up with funds. [$50 per 6 months per player for GW] [$78 per 6 months per player for WoW].
And yes, it is coming out too soon. Give us a break, ANet, let the game settle a little bit -_-
"Sh*t, we made factions too boring. Other squad! Go make your chapter really really fast and rush it as much as you can! We need to entertain the diminishing audience! Go go post-haste! Must...make...more...chapters..."
I'm guessing that they have to make chapters quickly one after the other to keep up with funds. [$50 per 6 months per player for GW] [$78 per 6 months per player for WoW].
And yes, it is coming out too soon. Give us a break, ANet, let the game settle a little bit -_-
fiery
Factions was way over to soon , waiting for chapter 3 today..
Deaths Embrace
yeah factions sucked better they move on as fast as possible!!!
Strange Brew
What about the diminishing number of players in any given area ? Nightfall can only exacerbate this problem. It's almost impossible to get teams of people these days for many of the factions missions and some are virtually impossible with all hench teams.
Dj Tano
Yea i really think people are more worried about getting done with factions then with that nightfall will come too soon.
I think that having 1 year to explore prophecies was just right because i got to know everythin about it AND i got tired of it, and one month later factions came out.
I think that having 1 year to explore prophecies was just right because i got to know everythin about it AND i got tired of it, and one month later factions came out
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urbnatr
how can people not be done with factions? iv beaten it with 5 chars and this was like 2 or so months ago.
started to get boring
started to get boring
LifeInfusion
Dear naysayers:
-No one is asking you to pay a subscription
-No one is asking you to get every Chapter once it is released
-No one is asking you to get every Chapter
-The server infrastructure and bandwidth cost needs to be paid. Stop whining about Chapters being released every 6 months.
-If you do not like it, no one is forcing a gun to your head, go away. Take a break and come back if you rethink your decision.
-They don't make money when you play, they make money when you buy.
-We haven't had ANY downtime, only a server maintainence and a rollback. And the rollback was not even their fault, it was natural. A network card blew out on one of the servers.
-No one is asking you to pay a subscription
-No one is asking you to get every Chapter once it is released
-No one is asking you to get every Chapter
-The server infrastructure and bandwidth cost needs to be paid. Stop whining about Chapters being released every 6 months.
-If you do not like it, no one is forcing a gun to your head, go away. Take a break and come back if you rethink your decision.
-They don't make money when you play, they make money when you buy.
-We haven't had ANY downtime, only a server maintainence and a rollback. And the rollback was not even their fault, it was natural. A network card blew out on one of the servers.
Sereng Amaranth
Look at it this way...
Why rush to finish one chapter with all your characters?
Why not move to each of them when you get bored or stuck in one chapter?
I still need to develop a ritualist, and my assassin has only been to Lion's Arch. I believe this is an intentional move by Anet. If they bring out a new title every 6 months, then there will be people in each of the continents all the time. There won't be very many dead areas.
Why rush to finish one chapter with all your characters?
Why not move to each of them when you get bored or stuck in one chapter?
I still need to develop a ritualist, and my assassin has only been to Lion's Arch. I believe this is an intentional move by Anet. If they bring out a new title every 6 months, then there will be people in each of the continents all the time. There won't be very many dead areas.
princessstar
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how can people not be done with factions? iv beaten it with 5 chars and this was like 2 or so months ago.
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Iltazyara
it cant come soon enough one time trough factions did me for good its just to short while proph was long enough to keep me going for a long time (i still havnt finished it
) but a knew chapter will keep me in the game long enough to finish proph
) but a knew chapter will keep me in the game long enough to finish proph
Fox Reeveheart
o.o actually this is all true about the interview.
To all of those that are thinking its being released too soon...
THEY ANNOUNCED EVEN BEFORE PROPHECIES WAS RELEASED THAT EXPANSIONS WILL BE RELEASED EVERY 6 MONTHS Q.Q, I forgive them on factions though because I guess everything was like a test trial to see how things worked out, etc.
To all of those that are thinking its being released too soon...
THEY ANNOUNCED EVEN BEFORE PROPHECIES WAS RELEASED THAT EXPANSIONS WILL BE RELEASED EVERY 6 MONTHS Q.Q, I forgive them on factions though because I guess everything was like a test trial to see how things worked out, etc.
princessstar
yeah my first and only prohesies character only made it to kryta before i realised that my character sucked because i had one combo (immolation or w/e arrows and dual shot) and i just lost interest because the storyline was to slow....
HOWEVER in factions it is much faster...but much too controled....and i feel the storyline was scattered and when i got out of the city i was like HALLELUYAH grass the into arborstone there was confusing and controling paths......and thats where i am now...at house zu heltzertrying to cap the skill that will complete my assassin build FINALLY!!!! AoD FTW
HOWEVER in factions it is much faster...but much too controled....and i feel the storyline was scattered and when i got out of the city i was like HALLELUYAH grass the into arborstone there was confusing and controling paths......and thats where i am now...at house zu heltzertrying to cap the skill that will complete my assassin build FINALLY!!!! AoD FTW
Queenie
It's only been 3 months since Factions was realeased and now they're working on the Beta version of chap.3, way too soon. Some ppl havent even finished Cantha yet :/ they should atleast push it back to December or early next year or somthink, this is just WAY too soon!!!
gamecube187
I JUST finished factions for the first time with one of my characters two days ago, and I still want to finish it with more characters (not to mention I'm still trying to finish prophecies. Fire islands is hard, enspecially to get a group that doesn't all leave half way through the mission.) I don't think this is too soon though. It means more to explore and fight through ALONG with trying to beat the other two chapters. I personally like them going a little too fast with these, because it means I won't get bored of it, unless I get bored of all of GW, which doesn't seem to be happening anytime soon. Now, if I get stuck on a mission, or bored of a certain chapter, I can always go to another one and play that untill I fell like trying the chapter I got stuck on/bored of.
The only problem with this coming out with expansions is that there are already some missions in cantha and tyria (this problem is mostly in tyria) that are hard to get groups for because there are so few people there. With more chapters, that means more towns and areas for people to be in, which means people will be even more spread out. That will make finding groups in some areas even harder and most of the missions towards the end of the game are literally IMPOSIBLE with henchies, so you HAVE to find a player group.
Plz arena net, MAKE HENCHIES SMARTER/BETTER!!! I wouldn't be stuck in fire islands if I could do the mission with henchies because they don't randomly decide to leave in the middle of the misison, plus, they are ALWAYS at that place and there are sometimes when I go do a mission, but I can't because there aren't enough players to even form a full group (most of these players are afk too) and the henchies are too pathetic to make it half way through the mission without having 60% dp so I have to go do something else (it has happened to me a few times before, but it is very rare. You would think more players would be doing missions in the middle of the day
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The only problem with this coming out with expansions is that there are already some missions in cantha and tyria (this problem is mostly in tyria) that are hard to get groups for because there are so few people there. With more chapters, that means more towns and areas for people to be in, which means people will be even more spread out. That will make finding groups in some areas even harder and most of the missions towards the end of the game are literally IMPOSIBLE with henchies, so you HAVE to find a player group.
Plz arena net, MAKE HENCHIES SMARTER/BETTER!!! I wouldn't be stuck in fire islands if I could do the mission with henchies because they don't randomly decide to leave in the middle of the misison, plus, they are ALWAYS at that place and there are sometimes when I go do a mission, but I can't because there aren't enough players to even form a full group (most of these players are afk too) and the henchies are too pathetic to make it half way through the mission without having 60% dp so I have to go do something else (it has happened to me a few times before, but it is very rare. You would think more players would be doing missions in the middle of the day
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logan90
If Nightfall is too soon for you, dont buy it. IMO its not coming fast enough. Im bored of Factions already and its only been 3 months. I havnt completed it with all my characters, but i dont really want to anyway. Besides, that only takes a few days to do.
None? Really? So the downtime on the euro servers a few days back doesnt count then? The servers internet connection wasnt working so everyone got kicked off with err=040 and it was down for hours with err=013 if you log in.
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We haven't had ANY downtime, only a server maintainence and a rollback. And the rollback was not even their fault, it was natural. A network card blew out on one of the servers.
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silv3rr
Nightfall's release date does not equal a deadline to complete Factions by. You can either, buy Nightfall when it comes out but don't play it yet... or play it if you want, and go back to Factions later to finish it =p don't worry people, it's like you'll get "late marks"
majoho
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Originally Posted by Queen Christie
It's only been 3 months since Factions was realeased and now they're working on the Beta version of chap.3, way too soon. Some ppl havent even finished Cantha yet :/ they should atleast push it back to December or early next year or somthink, this is just WAY too soon!!!
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How does it influence you that it is released ? you don't have to get it.
Loviatar
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Originally Posted by Queen Christie
It's only been 3 months since Factions was realeased and now they're working on the Beta version of chap.3, way too soon. Some ppl havent even finished Cantha yet :/ they should atleast push it back to December or early next year or somthink, this is just WAY too soon!!!
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have you actually missed the little fact that they have been working on Nightfall for 9 months already?as for being too early many people dont like Factions or have gotten only a small amount from it.
i am one of those PVE people who has felt the pinch here and Nightfall which was stated as having much more for the PVE side of the game cant come too soon.
if you dont like it or think it is rushed wait until you are sure you want it before buying it.
Ulivious The Reaper
Just think, they've been working on Nightfall since they got done with the sorrows furnace update (i think they said that) and chapter 2 was already being worked on before that, just be happy this games being made by the ones that made the original, which is why i think it'll be great
Vahn Roi
Seeing as I only have one serious character (a monk, which made getting through the game very quick) I eagerly await this expansion.
I can understand the worry of those people with 4-6 characters though.
I can understand the worry of those people with 4-6 characters though.
Raven_Scythe
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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
What about the diminishing number of players in any given area ? Nightfall can only exacerbate this problem. It's almost impossible to get teams of people these days for many of the factions missions and some are virtually impossible with all hench teams.
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This is only going to get worse as players spread themselves over 3 chapters.
Guild Wars may have over 2 million accounts, but this does not imply 2 million active players. Moreover, this unknown number of active players are all spread out over multiple regions (America, Europe, Korea, etc.) and you rarely see any in international districts. I'm not saying that the expansions are coming out too fast, but the sparsity of players is increasing the difficulty in forming a half-decent PUG.
ArenaNet needs to come up with a solution that will allow players to progress through any campaign without being too dependant on other people being around, wanting to achieve exactly the same goal.
Sai of Winter
I'm just glad Nightfall is coming out soon. I've beaten Factions in five weeks with all my characters and then the next month, I got bored with it. I didn't had much else to do in the game. When August hits, Nightfall is only two or three months away and I'm ready for it. The six month period is going as planned, so Nightfall isn't coming out "too" soon, it's just time is going by quickly. If you're not paying attention to the date.
shadowvulcan
i beat factions in 4 days, and all the quests, I can't wait for nightfall
Helll is for Heroes
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how can people not be done with factions? iv beaten it with 5 chars and this was like 2 or so months ago.
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Loviatar
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Originally Posted by Helll is for Heroes
because a large majority of us have lives...
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also some of like to enjoy the game and not simply rush through, *beat it* and then yell that it is too short and im bored
Sai of Winter
Yeah, some people just log-on and sit around ingame for a long time while ignoring their other characters to finish the game too. Then complain Nightfall is coming out too early.
Llednar
People you have 3months to finish factions, calm down.
GW: Prophecies Release: April 26th,2005
GW: Factions Release: April 28th, 2006 ( almost exactly 1yr after Prophecies )
GW: Nightfall Preview: July 28th (exactly 3months after factions hmmm)
Estimated Release Date for NF: October 28th, 2006
GW: Prophecies Release: April 26th,2005
GW: Factions Release: April 28th, 2006 ( almost exactly 1yr after Prophecies )
GW: Nightfall Preview: July 28th (exactly 3months after factions hmmm)
Estimated Release Date for NF: October 28th, 2006
Zamiel
ok here is the thing people are complaining about how prophecies took a long time while factions took a very short amount of time. ok prophecies was made for pve while factions was made for pvp. it even says that on the guildwars website. in my opinion the should make nightfall a branching path adventure where u can choose to either go along the short root and be a more pvp centered game or take a long root and it would be a more pve
Loviatar
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ok here is the thing people are complaining about how prophecies took a long time while factions took a very short amount of time.
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Factions took one full year having been started on the release of GW April 28 th 2005Nightfall will also have one full year of work having been started 6 months after Factions was started.
chapter 4 was started on the release of Factions almost 3 months ago and will release on GW second anniversary of april 28 th 2007
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or were you talking about time to do the game?
Guardian of the Light
Well the thing is every time Anet says they're going to release something on a date on a time period like After summer it always ends up to be much later.
Players: When is Nightfall coming?
Anet: At abot after summer
*Nightfall is released in Dec. 11th*
Players: When is Nightfall coming?
Anet: At abot after summer
*Nightfall is released in Dec. 11th*
widowdaballa
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Factions took one full year having been started on the release of GW April 28 th 2005Nightfall will also have one full year of work having been started 6 months after Factions was started. chapter 4 was started on the release of Factions almost 3 months ago and will release on GW second anniversary of april 28 th 2007 EDIT or were you talking about time to do the game? |
TedTheShred
I believe that A-Net's goal IS to release the expansions too close together. Factions was released one year after Prophecies, therefore most, if not all, people who had bought the game had finished it. When Factions came out, the continent was completely swarmed, and Tyria was nearly deserted, save for the route to the crystal desert and the nescessary elite caps. In releasing expansions so close together they have created a system where entire continents arent competely deserted, spacing out the economy.
Besides, with a standalone game out every six months, in no time at all Futureshop and EB games will give them their own shelf or case, making the series much more interesting to walk-in's
Besides, with a standalone game out every six months, in no time at all Futureshop and EB games will give them their own shelf or case, making the series much more interesting to walk-in's
Voltaire
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Besides, with a standalone game out every six months, in no time at all Futureshop and EB games will give them their own shelf or case, making the series much more interesting to walk-in's
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WhiteZombie
i think its a good thing expansions come quickly. it satisfies those who have already exhausted factions, and it provides those who havent with more things to do so they dont run into the wall the rushers make for themselves by burning out all the content too fast.
its good for pvp as well *puts up flame shield*. it makes sure the metagame is constantly shifting and wont become stagnant.
its good for pvp as well *puts up flame shield*. it makes sure the metagame is constantly shifting and wont become stagnant.
Thermo
Personally I have to agree, more new skill combos make a new metagame. The new classes look to have some interesting effects on pvp and pve. The Dervish sounds like he will be a pve god with a lot of AoE attacks, but the Paragon doesn't sound too bad either with his buff skills and ranged dmg.
I look foward to the new PvE content since factions was all too short mission wise, but I do hope ANet keeps the idea that most people are level 20, so most missions in Nightfall will be geared towards that.
As long as ANet keeps pumping out interesting new skills and awesome looking worlds I will keep buying ( new classes don't hurt either ).
I look foward to the new PvE content since factions was all too short mission wise, but I do hope ANet keeps the idea that most people are level 20, so most missions in Nightfall will be geared towards that.
As long as ANet keeps pumping out interesting new skills and awesome looking worlds I will keep buying ( new classes don't hurt either
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stiffler
Every 6 months is a healthy time frame for new GW chapters, the only reason why people think its to soon is because it has been mentioned while Factions is still a little fresh. Trust me, after 6 months you will be happy to see Nightfall, and if you're not dont buy it until you are ready or if you want it at all.