Mark of Protection EoE bomb imo.
OoA is anything but bad.
Shadow Shroud is pretty decent as a spike assist.
Worst Elite in the Game
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Dronte
noocoo you should have linked those skills in more lines, it rips my mozilla :P
OoA is leet in PvE
Shadow Shroud is a pretty annoying skill, just cover it with another hex.
Ride the lightning is a great skill for spikes (teleport in than spread AoE skills around you, many builds in connection with that)
OoA is leet in PvE
Shadow Shroud is a pretty annoying skill, just cover it with another hex.
Ride the lightning is a great skill for spikes (teleport in than spread AoE skills around you, many builds in connection with that)
jaeharys targaryen
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Tyla
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[skill]Gust[/skill] [skill]Ride the Lightning[/skill] [skill]Glimmer of Light[/skill] and [skill]Plague Signet[/skill]
enough said
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I don't know that they are the worst or not. I just never seen ppl used them.
-- ok, I edit them... I hope Anet would buff or rework them, and then we will have much more new builds to play. I think it is also a good way to extend the life of GW. -- [skill]Skull Crack[/skill][skill]Marksman's Wager[/skill][skill]Amity[/skill][skill]Mark of Protection[/skill][skill]Aura of Faith[/skill][skill]Keystone Signet[/skill][skill]Ether Renewal[/skill][skill]Primal Rage[/skill][skill]Equinox[/skill][skill]Lacerate[/skill] [skill]Withdraw Hexes[/skill][skill]Ray of Judgment[/skill][skill]Word of Censure[/skill][skill]Weaken Knees[/skill][skill]Soul Bind[/skill][skill]Order of Apostasy[/skill][skill]Shared Burden[/skill][skill]Double Dragon[/skill][skill]Energy Boon[/skill][skill]Shadow Shroud[/skill] [skill]Clamor of Souls[/skill][skill]Signet of Spirits[/skill][skill]Tranquil Was Tanasen[/skill][skill]Magehunter's Smash[/skill][skill]Magehunter Strike[/skill][skill]Strike as One[/skill][skill]Infuriating Heat[/skill][skill]Quicksand[/skill][skill]Pain of Disenchantment[/skill][skill]Symbols of Inspiration[/skill] [skill]Extend Conditions[/skill][skill]Tease[/skill][skill]Air of Disenchantment[/skill][skill]Mark of Insecurity[/skill][skill]Shadow Meld[/skill][skill]Wastrel's Collapse[/skill][skill]Xinrae's Weapon[/skill][skill]Signet of Ghostly Might[/skill][skill]Zealous Vow[/skill] skull crack is actually quite fun  extend conditions is alright(not sure on any recent buffs/nerfs yet though) primal rage is fun on dervs:P OoA>enchantments zealous vow is nice(unless your blinded><) shadow shroud>casters keystone signet is quite fun:P
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Originally Posted by jaeharys targaryen
/pve, tbh.
/yourunahammerparagon, tbh.
Snow Bunny
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actually glimmer is quite nice and ride the lightning is ok...mind you doesnt match any of the more "today" builds:P
skull crack is actually quite fun extend conditions is alright(not sure on any recent buffs/nerfs yet though) primal rage is fun on dervs:P OoA>enchantments zealous vow is nice(unless your blinded><) shadow shroud>casters keystone signet is quite fun:P
Regardless of how "fun" it may be to use garbage elites,they still suck. Period. i.e., I think it's absolute hilarity to run Dwarven Battle Stance with Shock and On Your Knees! in RA because people get confused why everything they do gets interrupted, but.... it still sucks, and I can't change that. So....pretty much everything there but OoA sucks. Shendaar
Ether Renewal is so bad its unbelievable.
BLOODGOAT
@noocoo: Aura of Faith owns.
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@noocoo: Aura of Faith owns.
I lol'd irl.
Mister O
Lightbringer Signet...
anonymous
OoA is good, I don't know what you are talking about. Ether Renewal used to be good until they nerfed it to nothing to get rid of smiting. Lacerate is good for a condition pressure build. Shadow Shroud used to be good in the age of the Boon Prot.
Tyla
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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
Regardless of how "fun" it may be to use garbage elites,
they still suck. Period. i.e., I think it's absolute hilarity to run Dwarven Battle Stance with Shock and On Your Knees! in RA because people get confused why everything they do gets interrupted, but.... it still sucks, and I can't change that. So....pretty much everything there but OoA sucks. not only fun but good... but i think your losing it on skull crack,shadow shroud.skull crack>casters,shadow shroud>casters including the fact grenth's grasp actually found a use. EDIT  k,extend conditions didnt have the effect i thought it had *lingers in sadness*
blue.rellik
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@noocoo: Aura of Faith owns.
This is truth. I cannot even begin to count how many times that blasted Mursaat Monk boss stalled my party when I was newbish.
Teh [prefession]-zorz
if you seriously put OoA as a bad elite...woooooooow
Akaraxle
Energy Boon.
Dean Harper
OoA pwning PvP right now in Spiritway groups, and its awesome in pve too...
Snow Bunny
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not only fun but good...
but i think your losing it on skull crack,shadow shroud and extend condition i mean extend conditions owns for condition builds,skull crack>casters,shadow shroud>casters including the fact grenth's grasp actually found a use. Skull crack? I do hope you're kidding me. I mean, it's only a 9A attack that adds no extra damage and only dazes if you interrupt a spell. It's a terrible elite. Concussion shot is better ffs, and it's non-elite. Extend conditions is crap too. And....shadow shroud sucks.
Giga Strike
[skill]peace and harmony[/skill]
what a waste of an elite spot. if you are in a situation where you can afford to not do anything then you have enough time to wait until your energy replenishes it's self.
noocoo
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Originally Posted by Teh [prefession]-zorz
if you seriously put OoA as a bad elite...woooooooow
woooooooooooooooooooow what?
Go re-reading the first sentence in my post.
Sir Mad
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[skill]peace and harmony[/skill]
what a waste of an elite spot. if you are in a situation where you can afford to not do anything then you have enough time to wait until your energy replenishes it's self. Healing isn't doing anything I think... And I don't use to engage mobs with my +5e sword, generally 
Wakka
[skill]Balthazar's Pendulum[/skill]
And half the Ranger Expertise ones and half the Assassin ones. Tyla
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Skull crack?
I do hope you're kidding me. I mean, it's only a 9A attack that adds no extra damage and only dazes if you interrupt a spell. It's a terrible elite. Concussion shot is better ffs, and it's non-elite. Extend conditions is crap too. And....shadow shroud sucks. OK n skull crack,build up adrenaline(so hard...)interrupting a spell:not very hard if you know timing and concussion shot eats energy.shadow shroud:enemy unable to cast spells is ftw yay
moko
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OK
n skull crack,build up adrenaline(so hard...)interrupting a spell:not very hard if you know timing and concussion shot eats energy.shadow shroud:enemy unable to cast spells is ftw yay you are thinking off Shroud of Silence. Shadow Shroud used to be alright in pvp when it was a heavy boon prot meta. [skill]Shadow Shroud[/skill] [skill]Shroud of Silence[/skill] 
Lord Natural
[skill]extend conditions[/skill] and [skill]Mirror of Ice[/skill] with honourable mention to [skill]"The power is yours!"[/skill]
I can find a use or see a purpose in almost any elite, but these 3 strike me as particularly useless. Extend conditions simply has too high a recharge to make it of any use at all. The one purpose I can think of it would be to extend dazed on a monk on a lockdown type of arena bar. But the most dangerous causes of dazed seem to last forever anyway, so devoting an elite to it seems redundant. Another reason might be to help a blind bot lock down a warrior, but given the quick recharges of b surge and b flash, it too has no real purpose. I also don't like the fact that it's a duration skill cast on the opposing party which isn't a hex. That screams broken and OP, but since the skill is so terrible, it will never be an issue. Mirror of Ice just fails to do what other skills to better. Let Reversal Of Fortune do the damage negation and use the elite spot on something with some punch. The recharge is too long and it can only be used on the caster, which seems extra pointless, even for pve-type ele tanks. I don't like to hate on energy management skills, but "The power is yours!" is probably one of the worst I've seen, especially from the elite spot. Forget for a second that motivation has been nerfed into oblivion and spec'ing 12+ into it is misguided, it's also merely a slightly better Aria of Zeal, but with huge side-effects. Casters are the ones dependant on energy, so Aria is the same thing, only with a couple less energy gained. Maybe it could find a home in some weird gimmick physical team build, but even for all physicals there are better energy options than this.
noocoo
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n skull crack,build up adrenaline(so hard...)interrupting a spell:not very hard if you know timing and concussion shot eats energy. |
and yes, everything has its use, but the problem is: is it worth to take?
Since they are elite, we don't need an elite which provides a very little efforts even it is worse than normal skill.
Extend condtions? What is the point that you have to extend the conditions. Condition is easy to re-appy and easy to be removed. Do we really need those over long time duration? What is the point that you have to take an "Elite" to extend unnecessary things?
You should know this point and to know what we are discussing.
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shadow shroud:enemy unable to cast spells is ftw yay
Fail comment. Go re-reading the skill description.
lucifair
how about sig of ghostly might...that cant be far off the list of worst elites :P
Tyla
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Concussion shot is not an elite,
and yes, everything has its use, but the problem is: is it worth to take? Since they are elite, we don't need an elite which provides a very little efforts even it is worse than normal skill. Extend condtions? What is the point that you have to extend the conditions. Condition is easy to re-appy and easy to be removed. Do we really need those over long time duration? What is the point that you have to take an "Elite" to extend unnecessary things? You should know this point and to know what we are discussing. also,skull crack is a melee and easier to interrupt your target
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Originally Posted by lucifair
how about sig of ghostly might...that cant be far off the list of worst elites :P
no, sig of ghostly is good. and extend conditions just got buffed to kind of usable.
Kabroz the necro
How many times i have to say?! LACERATE!
Master Ketsu
Imo extend conditions needs to be 2sec recharge to be useable. Its effect is a moot point, no good team allows conditions to ever last their full duration anyways. The only use I see in it is for burning and maybe blind against bad teams, the only conditions that really benefit from extend. At least make it so you can stack it on the entire team as a cover hex.
Originally Posted by Kabroz the necro
Quote: How many times i have to say?! LACERATE!
Your right, its bad. Blatantly inferior to the non elite toxicity.
IMO the absolute worst elites: -Wastrels collapse: Totally worthless. Even taking away its elite slot would still make it bad. -Blathazars pendelum: Craptastically bad. Anet doesnt seem to realize that random knockdowns are not worth much, it is timed knockdowns that give them power. Needs to deal damage as well. -Scavengers focus: Blatantly inferior to most non elite preparations. thedeadlyassassin
This is the hardest question. I think I'm going to say Martyr, since Cautery Signet instead transfers all conditions from allies to you, and sets you on fire for 1 second for each condition.
Not to mention, Martyr is an elite monk skill, so it's very unused and useless, paragons main elites aren't too great, as many paragon non elites can do the same thing with a critical hit.
joemanstar
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Famine
Do you know how many farmers are loving this Natural Ritual?
Lourens
no elite is bad u just need to know how to use it and in what kind of build
i like using [skill]ether renewal[/skill] over [skill]elemental attunement[/skill] jaeharys targaryen
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no elite is bad u just need to know how to use it and in what kind of build
[skill]second wind[/skill] | [skill]archer's signet[/skill] builds please
Skatingecko
yea lol Practiced Stance...so what if preps r 118% longer, ill just cast em again lol
Skatingecko
escape ownzz
one of the better elites, but if u dont run its nothing
mazey vorstagg
[skill]Archer's Signet[/skill]
This actually looks pretty good. If you had a skillbar where your skills recharged pretty fast then at the beginning of every fight you could spam high cost skills. the only problem is, there are no high cost skills for rangers.
Hyper Cutter
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yea lol Practiced Stance...so what if preps r 118% longer, ill just cast em again lol
There are a couple of preps that have a duration lower than their recharge([skill]Choking Gas[/skill], for example), so that skill's got at least some use...
CHunterX
Balthazar's Pendulum
therangereminem
i use mirior of ice to farm its a really good elite for high ele aareas
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