Worst Elite in the Game

zling

zling

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

yeah that Lightbringer elite is really crappy.
but the worst elite is still Ursan Blessing!
it's PvE only but yeah...
as for PvP, that honor will go to any Energy Storage elite, perhaps excluding Glyph of Energy that is sometimes used in Me/E builds

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

Balths pendulem enough said.

charging strike.

and Mark of Protection

schaapie

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

E/Mo

Balths pendulem enough said. just pure crap

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by schaapie
Balths pendulem enough said. just pure crap My TA smiter's boon monk begs to differ.

Thierry2

Thierry2

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Netherlands

Mo/

Hmm imo unyielding aura..
who needs an elite rez? ( apart from the person that tried to steal 50k of me with it..LOL)

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10008331

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[skill]Wastrel's Collapse[/skill]

Esan

Esan

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2007

Wars

The most useless elite skill is searching the forums before starting a thread. Where by useless I mean unused.

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

Balts pendium or wasterls collapse, knockdown never has and probs never will be balenced :/

Olim Chill

Olim Chill

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

USA

DMI

N/

Whenever I see this type of thread, I think of [skill]Peace and Harmony[/skill] - so there it is.

Taisayacho

Taisayacho

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

England (GMT)

The Imperial Guards of Istan [TIGI]

R/

unyielding aura and lightbringer sig

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
takes the cake. Even Lightbringer Sig and Wastrel's Collapse do something. That's actually a placeholder, it's like an empty skill... just you can move it around, XD.

Buster

Buster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Elona

Clan Eternal Legion

D/W

Skull Crack. An actual useful skill but since we have 50 thousand wammos running around, WOH is now the prefered elite :P

itsvictor

itsvictor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

I'm not sure if I posted earlier, but balthazars pendulum actually does see a lot of play in TA with that certain gimmick. Lightbringer signet imo.

KennyC

KennyC

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by MirkoTeran
+1 definitely the worst...

Deleet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Denmark

Rule Thirty Four [prOn]

Mo/

Just to be annoying I created a somewhat viable build with keystone signet:

[skill]Signet of Disruption[/skill] [skill]Signet of distraction[/skill] [skill]Signet of Weariness[/skill] [skill]Leech Signet[/skill] [skill]Signet of Humility[/skill] [skill]Signet of Disenchantment[/skill] [skill]Keystone Signet[/skill] [skill]Unnatural Signet[/skill]

Features:
- Every 10th second you can interrupt and disable a skill for 32 seconds (@ 12 dom)
- ~65 dmg spiking ability
- 3 interrupts with various bonuses against spells
- permanent elite skill disabling
- unanaffected by energy i.e. immune to e-denial/pressure

For example, you could interrupt/disable one monks skills, while maintaining elite-disabling on the other one and still join up in spikes with armor-ignoring damage.

Not that bad huh?

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Edit: It seems that [skill]Wastrel's Collapse[/skill] has been nominated, in which case, the users must have forgotten about [skill]Diversion[/skill].

For instance, cast Diversion on target monk, and quickly follow up with Collapse. Resulting in a diversion lock-down followed by a knock-down (unless they remove the hex or cast a skill). Optimally, it's an 8 second knock-down. More than enough to kill the other monk. Or even better. Watch the 1st monk and wait for him to use his hex removal, when he does cast the combo on 2nd monk and spike the first one. q.e.f.

Bowstring Badass

Bowstring Badass

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Character selection screen figuring what I want to play...

Purple Lingerie - :D

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
takes the cake. Even Lightbringer Sig and Wastrel's Collapse do something.
You win. Have a cookie...

AshenX

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

Orange County, CA.

Black Flag

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lilnate22
wow....
ok go find a use for quivering blade... wich is the same as glarath or silverwing xceot if u miss it is disabled and u are dazed....

go ahead find a use for that skill probably seems noobish but I rather liked using quivering blade on my warrior/necro in situations where I knew my caster opponents would be using blocking so that I could immediately give them the daze with plague touch.

Pyro maniac

Pyro maniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Olim lll
Whenever I see this type of thread, I think of [skill]Peace and Harmony[/skill] - so there it is. inferior to other forms of e-management, but at least it's semi-decent since it can be cast on other monks as well

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

no its just fail peace and harmony is just epic fail.

Taisayacho

Taisayacho

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

England (GMT)

The Imperial Guards of Istan [TIGI]

R/

i considered capping it once. then i saw what it actually did.

street peddler

street peddler

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

i think wastrels collapse is the undisputed worst elite in the entire game, absolutely no use whatsoever. second place would be amity, third is unyielding aura.

Deleet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Denmark

Rule Thirty Four [prOn]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by street peddler
i think wastrels collapse is the undisputed worst elite in the entire game, absolutely no use whatsoever. second place would be amity, third is unyielding aura. I proved you wrong on the previous page. Amity, maybe.

Pyro maniac

Pyro maniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deleet
I proved you wrong on the previous page. Amity, maybe. It only serves as a cheap cover hex, the 2 second knockdown is unreliable and could better be replaced by a Glyph of Renewal'ed Diversion or Shame.

Jarretth25

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Crystal Skull Brotherhood

D/

wary stance+ 12 tactics= 4sec!?!?!?!

RavagerOfDreams

RavagerOfDreams

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

somewhere over the rainbow....

A/

[card]Wastrel's Collapse[/card]

absolutely no use

anet pls change now?

Deleet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Denmark

Rule Thirty Four [prOn]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyro maniac
It only serves as a cheap cover hex, the 2 second knockdown is unreliable and could better be replaced by a Glyph of Renewal'ed Diversion or Shame. Blackout + Wastrel's Collapse..

BaconSoda

BaconSoda

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

*Somewhere Under The Rainbow*

Leo

Me/

Wastrel's collapse has very limited uses, but it still has uses. There are better skills though...

Now, Amnity, THAT is a useless skill....

Parson Brown

Parson Brown

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

In ur base...

The one true [Hope]

E/

[skill]Amity[/skill]

I love the comments I get in RA when I use this! There will be 4 assassins surrounding me waiting until they can attack!


heh, we all have to have a little fun once in a while

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deleet
Blackout + Wastrel's Collapse.. Cool, you just knocked down your foe. And you used an elite skill and one other to do so.

Pick Me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Thornill, ON, Canada

THE CANUCK MONKS (TCM)

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deleet
Blackout + Wastrel's Collapse.. I think you have that in reverse order.

Taking yourself out of the frey isn't all that great.

Amity is a niche skill at best. Rarely is it ever useful.

I can't really decide anymore which is the worst. I don't think it matters to me, as there are way too many elites and very few that I'd ever use.

Shai-hulud

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Magnificent Dutch

W/

As said frequently:

[Wastrel's Collapse] is the absolute worst elite in the game like:

"Oh I see a hex on me, let's read what it does...ah I have 5 seconds to do *something* or else I get knocked down - oooooh" and then any player will have used some skill and the hex is removed.

It might have an *ok* synergy with something like diversion but to keep someone from using skills diversion would do that job by itself and wastrell's collapse isn't reliable enough to use any KD chain.

Mr.Kotte

Mr.Kotte

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

I get a feeling that [energy tap] > [energy drain]
Fast casting eh?

street peddler

street peddler

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Kotte
I get a feeling that [energy tap] > [energy drain]
Fast casting eh? lex luthor: "WRONG!"

Keyser Soze

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

Eternal Edge

E/

doesnt Amity stay on the target if you use life stealing skills?
if is does it would be useful for N/Mo

Kashrlyyk

Kashrlyyk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Keyser Soze
doesnt Amity stay on the target if you use life stealing skills?
if is does it would be useful for N/Mo It should! The question is are you fast enough to kill the enemies with life stealing?

Lord Galdir

Lord Galdir

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Netherlands

P/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Kotte
I get a feeling that [energy tap] > [energy drain]
Fast casting eh? these skills were nerfed hard, long time ago (back in 2005) i had a shutdown mesmer with these skills and malaise i think. it owned.

MasterSasori

MasterSasori

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

USA

[Thay]

R/Mo

[double dragon] IMO


I hate this elite because of the painful memories associated with it, not because it is THE worst. Though it is pretty terrible...

Bobby2

Bobby2

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2007

Delayed in order to meet ANet's high standards

[MaSS]

W/E

[skill]shroud of silence[/skill] is worse than [skill]wastrel's collapse[/skill] imo...