Worst Elite in the Game

Quick Shot is much more potent in PVP. It increases your arrow fire rate, allowing you to spike rapidly and hit a target almost immediately every second. Barrage is decent in PVE and loses effectiveness in PVP. Quick shot can be made very potent in some builds. I imagine youre right, but since I dont PvP, I cant say anything about that aspect of it.

Sorry quick shot used to be good but it sux now after the nerf that fixed its speed. why have quick shot when u can have punishing shot? (close enuff speed, but it has extra dmg and interrupts) And a difference in energy cost and recharge.

Quick Shot is much more potent in PVP. It increases your arrow fire rate, allowing you to spike rapidly and hit a target almost immediately every second. Barrage is decent in PVE and loses effectiveness in PVP. Quick shot can be made very potent in some builds. I'd say...

No. If you want to spike, use something on the lines of Dual/Punishing/etc.

My personal worst elite...really can't think of any at the moment, possibly Energy Boon or Keystone Sig.

I'd say...

No. If you want to spike, use something on the lines of Dual/Punishing/etc.
*cough*
pm me for info on why Quickshot is now better than punishing for spike. You'll be surprised :P

Worst elite ever is Discord in my opinion, it only works when your target has a condition and a hex or enchantment on him. and the dmg dealth ain't so much even :/ I think there are some genious Discord builds actually - I remember seeing a cute N/E build in ObsMode GvG that made me want to give the guy a cookie for being so innovative with obscure skills... Fetid Ground used well, I never thought I'd see the day! He'd do stuff like pick an NPC in the enemy base -> Faintheartedness -> P.Bond -> Gale -> Fetid G. -> Discord spam -> Consume Corpse into the base -> kill more NPC's -> solo unsupported warriors trying to take him out -> eventually get forced out by a couple of enemy players. Think he had Enfeeble as an alternate condition to Fetid's poison for using Discord. I'll probably never see a death/curse necro like that again, but it was fun to watch

Aaaaaaaaaaanyway... back on topic - I keep thinking of uses for every elite I try to pick as the most useless Maybe I should cop out and go for Keystone Sig like everyone else

Ok, I'll vote for Equinox. Even though it might be fun with Exhausting Assault.

Primal Rage Ah! Ahahahahahahahah!

Listen up. Primal Rage is far from worst! Equip it, get 16 strength, and get a scythe. You have no idea! PvP, expect an average range of 80-120 damage per person, up to 3 people. Then, in PvE, often you'll hit for even more, especially in cases of combining holy damage with your attacks. In Sanctum Cay, you can expect to see 100-350(per hit). It's no joke, go see for yourself.

Primal Rage is my favorite warrior skill... there is no other skill like this. I mean, it's beautiful:
- Very easy to use!
- You don't don't need much energy to keep using it. Therefore, you can get a full set of Sentinel armor, which gives you 100AL.
- At 16 Strength, Primal Rage = 58% *additional chance* to hit a critical and 20% armor penetration.
- Criticals inflict amazing damage on scythes.

Cons (not significant enought to put Primal Rage out of work)
- If you get knocked out of your stance, you're at 12 scythe mastery.
- Some skills, especially new ones seen in Nightfall, like Stone Sheath or the similar enchantment spell will either prevent you from landing criticals on a certain foe, or on any foe.
- As with any melee aside from IW, Weakness is bad.
- Koss doesn't activate it himself!

Life Transfer is easily one of the worst elites in the game. Flare does more DPS than it does and the recharge on it is horrible. But Flare doesn't do any healing now does it.

Ah! Ahahahahahahahah!

Listen up. Primal Rage is far from worst! Equip it, get 16 strength, and get a scythe. You have no idea! PvP, expect an average range of 80-120 damage per person, up to 3 people. Then, in PvE, often you'll hit for even more, especially in cases of combining holy damage with your attacks. In Sanctum Cay, you can expect to see 100-350(per hit). It's no joke, go see for yourself.

Primal Rage is my favorite warrior skill... there is no other skill like this. I mean, it's beautiful:
- Very easy to use!
- You don't don't need much energy to keep using it. Therefore, you can get a full set of Sentinel armor, which gives you 100AL.
- At 16 Strength, Primal Rage = 58% *additional chance* to hit a critical and 20% armor penetration.
- Criticals inflict amazing damage on scythes.

Cons (not significant enought to put Primal Rage out of work)
- If you get knocked out of your stance, you're at 12 scythe mastery.
- Some skills, especially new ones seen in Nightfall, like Stone Sheath or the similar enchantment spell will either prevent you from landing criticals on a certain foe, or on any foe.
- As with any melee aside from IW, Weakness is bad.
- Koss doesn't activate it himself! Primal Rage is terrible.

There is no increased attack speed. You maybe be doing 80 damage (although in reality, it's only going to be around 60 for the most part, and yes, I did try this), but you're also doing it every time someone with Frenzy can attack twice. You can't even use Heart of Fury since that's Mysticism. There is also no increased speed boost, but this can be remedied by various enchantments, I suppose. In addition, you are totally blacked out for the duration of the skill. You can't heal yourself, so if you're overextending you're putting a mighty lot of pressure on your Monks.

The self-blackout is what really makes this skill quite bad. You have 8 skills, which would be better than one single skill any day.

The self-blackout is what really makes this skill quite bad. You have 8 skills, which would be better than one single skill any day. Tut tut tut... make that 7 skills... no res skill = big nono;

Primal Rage is terrible.

There is no increased attack speed. You maybe be doing 80 damage (although in reality, it's only going to be around 60 for the most part, and yes, I did try this), but you're also doing it every time someone with Frenzy can attack twice. You can't even use Heart of Fury since that's Mysticism. There is also no increased speed boost, but this can be remedied by various enchantments, I suppose. In addition, you are totally blacked out for the duration of the skill. You can't heal yourself, so if you're overextending you're putting a mighty lot of pressure on your Monks.

The self-blackout is what really makes this skill quite bad. You have 8 skills, which would be better than one single skill any day. Heart of Holy Flame works to give you holy damage, you don't need an attack speed boost when your numbers are over the roof, and the monks can handle it, and should be able to. When monking, I ask MMs to BoTM all they want, because I know that monks don't have an energy problem.

I don't think you actually tried it. You'll have the occasional low hit, but while you maintain PR, you'll be nearer to 120.

I have a record hit of 408 currently. I believe it was from a bone dragon in Sanctum Cay...

wow honestly i dont get all these people cussing out some of these skills. Some of them are great and you people (not racist) are saying they are terrible. Quickshot? if someone has about 20% health left and is trying to use a healing skill such as troll or heal sig you can pop off 2 quickshots and do around 60-100 dmg and kill them. Some of these criticists need to think before they offer their opinions and make sur ethey make sense. or i could use savage shot/distracting shot, and y'know, have an elite that doesnt suck?

yeah i think i'll take that ty