Thinking of buying GW.

Deadrim

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

Hey, I just quit WoW (again) and was thinking of picking this game up, but I don't know too much about it. I see Guild Wars and Guild Wars Factions for purchase, which one (or both) do I pick up?

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

You can pick up either, but there both totally different. Prophecies you can be Warrior, Ranger, Mesmer, Elementalist, Necromancer, or Monk. It's alot easier then factions, but you don't reach level 20 for awhile. In Factions you can be Warrior, Ranger, Mesmer, Elementalist, Necromancer, Monk, Assassin or Ritualist. It's more challenging then Prophecies, and you reach level 20 and get access to elite skills quite early. Of course if you buy both you can merge your accounts, so you'll have 6 character slots, be able to travel through Cantha and Tyria, and have access to all classes.

gamecube187

gamecube187

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

If it is your first time ever playing GW (which it appears to be), then I would recomend get prophecies first just because it gives you more time to learn how to play your character, but the only problem is, it takes a lot longer than factions to get to the harder and funner areas of the game.

Or, you could just wait untill nightfall comes out (should be sometime this fall) and buy that. That is what I would probably do if I were you just because you get to have 2 new classes that you only get if you buy nightfall, along with the classes you would have if you bought prophecies.

Of course, you could always buy prophecies now, and then if you like GW, then buy factions and/or nightfall whenever you want.

*edit*

Darn, 2 minutes late! Curse my slow typing!

Deadrim

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

Yeah, never played it. I think I'll hit up Wal-Mart right now and see if they have the first GW, thanks guys.

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

GJ. Your first step to freedom from the oppressors (subscriptions fee chargers) and their maintainence bandits.

GW:Just buy it.

Retribution

Retribution

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

R/W

Prophecies is good, but don't bother with factions, it makes you wonder wtf the devs were smoking.

Arnack

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Na, Factions is a good game =)
I suggest once you beat The first one, go on with Factions, and by the time you beat Factions, Nightfall would probably be out.

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

Factions is great, though Prophecies is a lot closer to what WoW was. An awful lot of people seem to dislike factions for the same reasons I love it.

1: No grinding for levels, you get to 20 in a couple hours, then your skills as a player improve, not arbitrary stats.

2: It's much more challenging, 90% of the game is designed for level 20 characters with max armor and weapons. You can't just twink your way through most of it.

3: A lot of the content is optional and nonlinear. People who just play through quickly to finish the main storyline are dissappointed. people who enjoy PvP, elite missions, challenge missions, and title-hunting seem to love factions.

As a side note, GW only has to hold you attention for 4 months, and you'll have saved at least 10 bucks on monthly fees for WoW.

gamecube187

gamecube187

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Retribution
Prophecies is good, but don't bother with factions, it makes you wonder wtf the devs were smoking.
Thats just what you think. I personally like Factions MUCH more. Like Dr. Strangleglove said, no grinding to lvl 20, more challenging, lots of extra stuff that you don't have to do, and a whole nother continent.

In fact, now that I think about it, Dr Strangelove is right about people liking it too. It seems like the people that don't like Factions are almost all complaining that "it was way too short" because they only did the main stuff. They didn't spend a lot of time doing the extra stuff and playing on more than just one character (I bought the preorder of factions, started playing it the day it came out, and just finished it for the first time with one of my chars yesterday, because I was occupied most of the time with doing bonus stuff). Everyone that seems to have done/is doing something similar to what I did, or went back after they beat the game to do the extra stuff, seems to like factions. I guess liking Factions really just depends on how you played/are playing it.

Retribution

Retribution

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

R/W

For pve you have 13 (compared to 25) missions, FF, fedex quests, and ummmm yeah.....

For pvp you have 3 random arena remixes...I mean alliance battles, the never populated jade quarry and fort aspenwood.

Maybe its a good game, but content-wise, its worth 30$, not 50.

Zaganher Deathbane

Zaganher Deathbane

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Las Vegas

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by gamecube187
In fact, now that I think about it, Dr Strangelove is right about people liking it too. It seems like the people that don't like Factions are almost all complaining that "it was way too short" because they only did the main stuff. They didn't spend a lot of time doing the extra stuff and playing on more than just one character (I bought the preorder of factions, started playing it the day it came out, and just finished it for the first time with one of my chars yesterday, because I was occupied most of the time with doing bonus stuff). Everyone that seems to have done/is doing something similar to what I did, or went back after they beat the game to do the extra stuff, seems to like factions. I guess liking Factions really just depends on how you played/are playing it.
Definetly agree 100% with gamecube187. I enjoy both chapters. It's not about finishing the game it's about replayability. There is this guy said that some of his guildmates finish the game in 2 days. I mean so what if you finish the game it's not about finishing the game it's more of how you get together with other players especially with your friends doing those difficult missions together again is what drives me to play it all over again and exploring new profession combinations

wilebill

wilebill

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mt Vernon, Ohio

Band of the Hawk

W/Mo

Prophecies first, especially coming from WoW.

The "beat the game" mentality is a lot like those who sign up for a "Europe in three days" tour and then come back saying Europe is sort of small and pretty boring -- the truth being they saw very little more than the airports.

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Retribution
For pve you have 13 (compared to 25) missions, FF, fedex quests, and ummmm yeah.....

For pvp you have 3 random arena remixes...I mean alliance battles, the never populated jade quarry and fort aspenwood.

Maybe its a good game, but content-wise, its worth 30$, not 50.
In prophecies PvE, how many of those 25 missions do you skip? Let's see, run to droks, run to sanctum cay, do that, 3 desert missions and the dopple, 3 shiverpeaks missions and 3 ring of fire missions. 10 missions with replay value for most people. Factions, subtract out the first two and you have 11 replayabale missions, 5 challenge missions, 2 competetive missions, AvA, and 2 elite missions. Yeah, there are fedex quests in factions, but have you played Prophecies lately? my head explodes whenever I think about doing helping the dwarves, or that quest in the falls.

Factions for replay value, challenge, and all around fun.

Prophecies for "beating the game" people, grindaholics, and masochists.

Digital Bath

Digital Bath

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Lords of Blood

W/Mo

Personally, I enjoyed the first game. Factions....well let's leave it at that I managed to get off the starter island when I realized, that I did not care for that game at all. In Proph., sure you can skip some of the missions, but that's some of the fun involved inthe game, as opposed to the literal locked gates of Factions. Proph. just seems to be so much more in depth when compared to Factions, imo. If Factions had been like Proph., well I wouldn't have renewed my WoW account when it came out. ^_^

felinette

felinette

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Girl Power [GP]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by gamecube187
It seems like the people that don't like Factions are almost all complaining that "it was way too short" because they only did the main stuff.
I don't like Factions as much as Prophecies but not because I rushed through it and think it's too short. In fact, one of my gals is working on Canthan Cartographer. I just found it tedious compared to Prophecies. There are people complaining that Factions is too short, but if you think that's the complaint of most, you haven't been reading the threads carefully enough.

To the OP: I'd start with Prophecies. Enjoy--it's a great game.

Kalki

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Summoners of Forgotten Gods

W/Mo

Either is fine. I'd recommend Factions, because I came from WoW and wasn't immediately hooked on Prophecies like so many people posting here were. In Factions leveling to 20 is much faster so if you like levelling stick with Prophecies. Factions has a better tutorial area for beginners though. Unlike WoW which took me 2 hours to feel comfortable in, this game took me a week to learn the basic ins and outs and get comfortable, but since then I've been hooked on this game completely.

Blind Rage

Blind Rage

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

New Zealand

Inyurface Gaming [IYF]

dont buy it! its too addicting!

WhiteZombie

WhiteZombie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by felinette
just found it tedious compared to Prophecies.
i think the reason many people feel this way is because prophecies came first, and people spent a whole year with it. if factions came first, and prophecies came out after it, everyone would love factions and hate prophecies, id wager ;P

both games are great in their own right. get them both if you can, it really isnt the same having just one, especially if you want to get into the pvp side of the game.

Shadwu

Shadwu

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Finland

Leones Justicia [LEO]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Retribution
For pvp you have 3 random arena remixes...I mean alliance battles, the never populated jade quarry and fort aspenwood.

Maybe its a good game, but content-wise, its worth 30$, not 50.
There is "pvp isle" in factions too? So faction players get more pvp.

I bought GW:F for 30€

felinette

felinette

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Girl Power [GP]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteZombie
i think the reason many people feel this way is because prophecies came first, and people spent a whole year with it.
Those who think Factions is tedious or don't like it feel that way for a variety of reasons. In my case, I only got Prophecies in November, and when I first tried it, I didn't like it and stopped playing. Two months later, I had nothing to play and decided to try it again and got hooked. So I'd only been playing Prophecies for four months when Factions came out. The reason I find Factions tedious is that it often feels like a grind. To move three feet you have to fight several mobs, and many quests involve you fighting through the same mobs over and over again.

RuPee

RuPee

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Los Angeles, CA

[RoD]

Mo/

i always recommend the prophecies campaign for new players. its very enjoyable and replayable and a good way to get started. and a big plus side to prophecies is that its kind of a year old so prices should be lower than the normal $50.

Thallandor

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

R/

Dont borther buying it. There are many new games in the pipeline. But if you must i recommend prophecies from a discount store and if you like it, watch out for Nightfall and dont borther with Factions, its junk.

Cottage Pie

Cottage Pie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Birmingham, England

Taking Aegis

Mo/Me

buy the game. @_o

Retribution

Retribution

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

R/W

I'm not going to argue whether prophecies players were grinding masochists or any other bullshit you label us. Hell, I'm coming from a pvp player's perspective. Factions PvP is a joke, recycled random arenas, and when I got into the pve, frankly it sucked. I still haven't beaten the game despite buying it in april, so don't label me as one of the rushers. I have no will to play factions because it sucks so much, I'd been perfectly happy just to buy the new classes and skills and NOTHING ELSE for 15-20$ instead of this thing they call PvE.

To Dr. Strangelove:
I don't want your biased statistics, you include the pvp AND pve aspects of factions and it STILL doesn't add to 25. Tell me, do you personally want to replay napui quarter or how about unwaking waters?? Yea I thought so. Sure you can get run through missions in prophecies, but thats not a fair comparison unless you also rush through factions like so many people claim us (who don't like factions) do. Where's the challange in factions?? Just throw in 15 rangers at once in gylala hatchery and its a challenge?? All factions did was add more and higher lvl mobs, so they taught people how to pull aggro, YAY, now go to team arena with your nuker, tank, monk setup and see how far you get with the "skills" you learned from these "challenges".

I'll admit prophecies had its parts that you just wanted to skip, as did factions. Maguuma jungle anyone? How about the whole damn city in factions? Only the city is like 30% of the content while the jungle was 16%.

Hey, I don't know why you and so many people defend Factions so much, maybe you like it, and thats OK, but claiming its better than prophecies is a matter of opinion, and just content-wise, Prophecies wins.

Kareem

Kareem

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Minnesota

Guildless & Looking

I'd recommend getting both. Start out with Prophecies though, and work your way onto Factions and eventually Nightfall once it comes out.

shardfenix

shardfenix

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Il Power Overwhelming Il [HaX]

Don't get either.

If you want it for pvp, stick to...well i guess GW is the leader in MMo pvp, but it still sucks. All of the maps are bugged, none of the skills are balanced, and you dont have to be good to win. This game rewards idiots and farmers, rather than skilled players, or inventive players.

If you want guild wars for just the pve experience, stick to WoW. Not only are all pve people morons who don't read their own skills, but they call you noob for being better than them. Also the storylines suck. GW is obviously a pvp game.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by shardfenix
Don't get either.

If you want it for pvp, stick to...well i guess GW is the leader in MMo pvp, but it still sucks. All of the maps are bugged, none of the skills are balanced, and you dont have to be good to win. This game rewards idiots and farmers, rather than skilled players, or inventive players.

If you want guild wars for just the pve experience, stick to WoW. Not only are all pve people morons who don't read their own skills, but they call you noob for being better than them. Also the storylines suck. GW is obviously a pvp game.
LOL!!

GW's is a PvP game..PvE is a bonus

PvE will last 6 months top before it gets really boring

factions is crap, chap1 is better

there is ALOT of kids that do nothing but moan..hence me using the guy aboves post

overall a good game but you need another game to play when GW gets dull

if you are looking for a "real" challenge try EVE steep learning curve but alot less kids and nearly everything is legal..