I dont get it (-5 energy weapons)

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lambda the great
lambda the great
Jungle Guide
#1
Why would you want to use a -5 energy sword for warriors???
some kind of boost or something???
Savio
Savio
Teenager with attitude
#2
A sword that has -5 energy would have a permanent +damage% modifier too. -5 energy with Gladiator's armor isn't too bad, and Warriors aren't entirely dependent on energy either.
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Former Ruling
Grotto Attendant
#3
Also for a monk.

Put this and the -2 energy offhand (+3 -5) together, and its an effective thing to swith too under energy denial.

lets fictionally say you have 100 energy (85+15 from your staff). Energy denial stuff is cast on you. You swith to your sword/offhand setup, your max energy is set to 78 (85-7 from your setup) now.

This is effective because alot of denial ends at 0 energy. You get to 0 faster when you start with less energy..when it hits that - go back to your staff, and you recieve a free burst of 15 energy - and alls good.

(Extra note: a common tactic while being denied energy is to "hide" that 15 energy your staff has, and once you reach 0 energy, swith to it quick, get the 15 energy, use whatever you need, and get back out of it)
Sereng Amaranth
Sereng Amaranth
Desert Nomad
#4
less energy to defend against energy dependant skills
Makkert
Makkert
Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh
#5
Like Former Ruling said.

- vs Wither and Malaise

- if you know your death is coming:
If possible, try to have the lowest max energy as possible when you die. When you are dead, you can't swap your equipment. When ressed with a Ressurrection Signet you will get 25% of your energy.

Let's assume you have 3 sets:

1) standard staff with +5 energy = 15 energy from equipment, 45 energy total on character
2) 15/-1 regen icon + wand = 27 energy, 57 energy total
3) a -5 energy sword/axe and a -5 energy(-2 netto) icon from Cities of Ascalon quest. 23 energy total.

- If you die and get ressed with no.1 equipped, you will end up with 11 energy.
- If you die and get ressed with no.2 equippped, you will end up with 14 energy and -1 regen.
When you switch back to your no.1 equipment you will end up with a scary low 2 energy.
- If you die and get ressed with no.3 equpped, you will end up with 6 energy.
When you switch back to your no.1 equipment you will end up with a nice 28 energy.

You could burn to your no.2 equipment, switch to no.3 expecting to die, and wait for a res with healthy energy. Now offcourse this is easier said then done, but I thought its an interesting tidbit of info. There will be situations in which you will be sole survivor and the team waiting for a priest res for example. Or you hear your monks calling 'blackout' and things look bad for
you...


~ makkert
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widds2v
Academy Page
#6
The -5 energy swords for warriors are the stupidest things ever. 5 energy is huge on a warrior. Sure your melee attacks for the most part are all adren, but everything else that makes you actually do damage is energy related.

Id take the -10 armor anyday, you're not a first target as a war so you shouldnt be getting beat on. If it gets down to just you alive then generally youve lost (although yes ive been in fights as a w/mo where i get a nice rez sig out and everyone gets rezd up and we win).
dont feel no pain
dont feel no pain
Forge Runner
#7
like Savio said it's not so bad if u have gladiators u will still have 22 energy
Yichi
Yichi
Furnace Stoker
#8
Add a zealous hilt on a sword and now your -5 energy sword dont bother your warrior at all. Besides if youre casting things with your warrior that you cant replace the energy fast enough with a zealous hilt or natural regen, your warrior is dead anyway...
Maxiemonster
Maxiemonster
There is no spoon.
#9
Yep, great for monk with OOB. Use this combo, and use OOB, and you're back on energy. Great tactic against drain Mesmer that try to mess up monks.
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TheOneAndOnlyX
Krytan Explorer
#10
Quote:
Originally Posted by MistressYichi
Add a zealous hilt on a sword and now your -5 energy sword dont bother your warrior at all. Besides if youre casting things with your warrior that you cant replace the energy fast enough with a zealous hilt or natural regen, your warrior is dead anyway...
wrong it would add a -1 energy also along with the minus 5 energy
Yichi
Yichi
Furnace Stoker
#11
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneAndOnlyX
wrong it would add a -1 energy also along with the minus 5 energy
ok. you still have one pip of regen. before you doubt what i just said, go grab a zealous sword or axe, find a pack of mobs that surround you and you have only 5 energy left. then use hundred blades or cyclone axe. then come talk to me about how this is useless...
Lawfer
Lawfer
Ascalonian Squire
#12
i've been farming with a -5 energy axe...
its doing pretty good, since a warrior dun need too much energy, 22 is ok enough. most of the the skill u cast is only 5 energy max 10 for HB
(except if u want to cast high energy stuff like SOJ)normally a -5 is good to have since u get a alway dmg mod.
IMO -5 en is better -10 armor(while attacking)
C
CKaz
Jungle Guide
#13
don't appear like repeats so -

anything that wipes your mana pool (ie rebirth, ether lord) that much better if it wipes smaller pool

if you took along the necro henchy will blood ritual you sooner
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TheOneAndOnlyX
Krytan Explorer
#14
Quote:
Originally Posted by MistressYichi
ok. you still have one pip of regen. before you doubt what i just said, go grab a zealous sword or axe, find a pack of mobs that surround you and you have only 5 energy left. then use hundred blades or cyclone axe. then come talk to me about how this is useless...
1. You can't say i would doubt you. 2.When did I ever say it was useless?
H
Hell Marauder
Krytan Explorer
#15
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneAndOnlyX
1. You can't say i would doubt you. 2.When did I ever say it was useless?
Mistress Yichi was right. Once I was a non-believer like you until I equipped my sword/axe with a zealous hilt/haft and never looked back since. Try it before you pass any judgement. In fact -5 energy with unconditional extra damage mod combo is the BEST warrior weapon combo out there, better than -1 hp degen or -10 armor while attacking. You'd be lucky if you get one.
lambda the great
lambda the great
Jungle Guide
#16
Woah, I like lost my thread somehow and left it.

Ok I get it now ty all.
MMSDome
MMSDome
Raged Out
#17
Quote:
Originally Posted by widds2v
The -5 energy swords for warriors are the stupidest things ever. 5 energy is huge on a warrior. Sure your melee attacks for the most part are all adren, but everything else that makes you actually do damage is energy related.

Id take the -10 armor anyday, you're not a first target as a war so you shouldnt be getting beat on. If it gets down to just you alive then generally youve lost (although yes ive been in fights as a w/mo where i get a nice rez sig out and everyone gets rezd up and we win).
it isnt that big, it depends on what build you use. I use a +15% in stance, zealous and fortitude. For what i do because i never leave a stance. -5 Energy may go to a pure adrenilane warrior that has skills like cyclone axe, or swift chop because they take 5 energy. Usually the most energy a warrior will need to use is 10 energy. For me thats armor of earth. -5 energy doesnt kill a warrior, depends on the build.