Ok are Assassin/Warriors any good? My A/W is doing awsome right now, i havent died once and im completed 2 missions. If you could suggest any strong PvE/PvP builds with them that would be greatly apreciated.
Another thing, I know assassins can have daggers(one dagger in each hand) but i was watching the cinematic trailor, and that guy had 2 like ninja swords. Is it possible to get swords like those?
thanks
qt31
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Assassin Questions...
Qorteth31
Skuld
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Shiro%27s_Blades these?
Qorteth31
yeh they are thanks
JAGeAkurei
yea it's kinda bummer shiro blades are the only "short sword" model for daggers.
been looking into war combos, but don't have any set yet to pass around.
been looking into war combos, but don't have any set yet to pass around.
Claymore
Someone did post a A/W using a sword instead of daggers, can't remember who but it was in this forum, so there is a build out there.
Rikimaru
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3051272
There it is. The damage is good, but not really amazing. It can survive great though.
It's an amazing PvE build though. I Haven't tried this, but you could probably solo Aaxes or whatever their called in the Underworld effortlessly.
There it is. The damage is good, but not really amazing. It can survive great though.
It's an amazing PvE build though. I Haven't tried this, but you could probably solo Aaxes or whatever their called in the Underworld effortlessly.
Chamber Asgardian
Here's another assassin build for pvp/AB:
Daggers: 14 (10+1+3)
Critical: 12(10+2)
Shadow arts: 10 (9+1)
Tactics:4
Armor: Full Shrouded
Weapons: Daggers of Xueko and Ceremonial Daggers
Skills:
Shove {E}
Falling Spider
Twisting Fangs
Wild Blow (for those pesky touch rangers who use stances, however if blinded doesn't work as well)
Way of Perfection
Shadow Refuge
Res Sig (RA/TA)/ Return or Recall (AB)
Daggers: 14 (10+1+3)
Critical: 12(10+2)
Shadow arts: 10 (9+1)
Tactics:4
Armor: Full Shrouded
Weapons: Daggers of Xueko and Ceremonial Daggers
Skills:
Shove {E}
Falling Spider
Twisting Fangs
Wild Blow (for those pesky touch rangers who use stances, however if blinded doesn't work as well)
Way of Perfection
Shadow Refuge
Res Sig (RA/TA)/ Return or Recall (AB)
JAGeAkurei
I tried making a crit hammer, just cause it looked really funny. The actual results weren't so impressive.
Chamber Asgardian
Here's another assassin build for pvp/AB:
Daggers: 14 (10+1+3)
Critical: 12(10+2)
Shadow arts: 10 (9+1)
Tactics:4
Armor: Full Shrouded
Weapons: Daggers of Xueko and Ceremonial Daggers
Skills:
Shove {E}
Falling Spider
Twisting Fangs
Wild Blow (for those pesky touch rangers who use stances, however if blinded doesn't work as well)
Way of Perfection
Shadow Refuge
Res Sig (RA/TA)/ Return or Recall (AB)
Daggers: 14 (10+1+3)
Critical: 12(10+2)
Shadow arts: 10 (9+1)
Tactics:4
Armor: Full Shrouded
Weapons: Daggers of Xueko and Ceremonial Daggers
Skills:
Shove {E}
Falling Spider
Twisting Fangs
Wild Blow (for those pesky touch rangers who use stances, however if blinded doesn't work as well)
Way of Perfection
Shadow Refuge
Res Sig (RA/TA)/ Return or Recall (AB)
Claymore
Yep thats the one, I have an extra wingblade somewhere maybe play with this build a bit.
Kijik Oni Hanryuu
I still don't like the idea of ass tanking... oh and Claymore love your avatar, I loved the Yuyu Hakusho series, forgot who it is in your avatar tho.. been so long, I only remmember how he used a crazy shadow dragon attack.
Claymore
Hehe thanks, Kijik, I'm not crazy about an assassin tanking either, but nothing ventured nothing gained right?? Im actually going to play with..Ready? an AXE build assassin! Yes, you read me right, an axe weilding assassin. Maybe it will turn into something, maybe get me arse handed to me but we will see.
Imagine your the look on your Pugs face when you load up and your assassin is standing there holding a Gothic axe! Imagine cyclone axe and the damage bonus and engery gain, I'll try it and see.
Imagine your the look on your Pugs face when you load up and your assassin is standing there holding a Gothic axe! Imagine cyclone axe and the damage bonus and engery gain, I'll try it and see.
silverwyng
kijik, claymore's avatar is hiei. 
my guildmate plays an a/w, and he uses the adrenal skills instead of the dagger attacks. it's weird, but he can drop enemies all the same!
my guildmate plays an a/w, and he uses the adrenal skills instead of the dagger attacks. it's weird, but he can drop enemies all the same!
Rikimaru
Quote:
Originally Posted by Claymore
Hehe thanks, Kijik, I'm not crazy about an assassin tanking either, but nothing ventured nothing gained right?? Im actually going to play with..Ready? an AXE build assassin! Yes, you read me right, an axe weilding assassin. Maybe it will turn into something, maybe get me arse handed to me but we will see.
Imagine your the look on your Pugs face when you load up and your assassin is standing there holding a Gothic axe! Imagine cyclone axe and the damage bonus and engery gain, I'll try it and see. I've tried it with an axe already. The actual damage outcome is nearly equal because the sword build can use Deep Wound much more easily. Although the non-condition damage is noticeably higher with the axe.
I Haven't done a lot of testing with it in actual PvP, but I know that both types kill a target dummy pretty much just as fast.
If you do find out that the Axe version is actually better, use a Cleaver axe; it looks just like a sword. That'd really confuse people.
Imagine your the look on your Pugs face when you load up and your assassin is standing there holding a Gothic axe! Imagine cyclone axe and the damage bonus and engery gain, I'll try it and see. I've tried it with an axe already. The actual damage outcome is nearly equal because the sword build can use Deep Wound much more easily. Although the non-condition damage is noticeably higher with the axe.
I Haven't done a lot of testing with it in actual PvP, but I know that both types kill a target dummy pretty much just as fast.
If you do find out that the Axe version is actually better, use a Cleaver axe; it looks just like a sword. That'd really confuse people.
Claymore
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rikimaru
I've tried it with an axe already. The actual damage outcome is nearly equal because the sword build can use Deep Wound much more easily. Although the non-condition damage is noticeably higher with the axe.
I Haven't done a lot of testing with it in actual PvP, but I know that both types kill a target dummy pretty much just as fast.
If you do find out that the Axe version is actually better, use a Cleaver axe; it looks just like a sword. That'd really confuse people. Hehe, sounds good, Im all about confusing people, I loved it in prophecies when I showed up with my Ele standing there with a wingblade!
I'll post any build I figure out.
I Haven't done a lot of testing with it in actual PvP, but I know that both types kill a target dummy pretty much just as fast.
If you do find out that the Axe version is actually better, use a Cleaver axe; it looks just like a sword. That'd really confuse people. Hehe, sounds good, Im all about confusing people, I loved it in prophecies when I showed up with my Ele standing there with a wingblade!
I'll post any build I figure out.
Claymore
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rikimaru
I've tried it with an axe already. The actual damage outcome is nearly equal because the sword build can use Deep Wound much more easily. Although the non-condition damage is noticeably higher with the axe.
I Haven't done a lot of testing with it in actual PvP, but I know that both types kill a target dummy pretty much just as fast.
If you do find out that the Axe version is actually better, use a Cleaver axe; it looks just like a sword. That'd really confuse people. Hehe, sounds good, Im all about confusing people, I loved it in prophecies when I showed up with my Ele standing there with a wingblade!
I'll post any build I figure out.
I Haven't done a lot of testing with it in actual PvP, but I know that both types kill a target dummy pretty much just as fast.
If you do find out that the Axe version is actually better, use a Cleaver axe; it looks just like a sword. That'd really confuse people. Hehe, sounds good, Im all about confusing people, I loved it in prophecies when I showed up with my Ele standing there with a wingblade!
I'll post any build I figure out.
Celab
a hammer weilding Ass 'ey?
i might try that
i might try that
Claymore
I though of that Celab, the KD's would be great, Hammer is just not my style, I tend to like bladed weapons. Just have to decide what kind of axe skin now!
Celab
hehe... i created a a/w Hammer Ass... Ended up completely warrior skills.
at 16 crits you have around 28% for a critical hit? at 12 weapon mastery that is
at 16 crits you have around 28% for a critical hit? at 12 weapon mastery that is
Claymore
Hmmmm Hammer Assassin, new thumber build?? Intresting thought
Celab
Just did some math.
At 12 mastery w/ 16 crit (to hell, its 16!) you have 32% crit chance. You max at around 23-47 damage (+15% +20%). With frenzy, thats 39 DPS with a average damage of 46. That's auto attacking.
Here's the build i thought off...
Assassin/Warrior
Level: 20
Critical Strikes: 16 (12+4)
Shadow Arts: 3
Hammer Mastery: 12
Backbreaker [Elite] (Hammer Mastery)
Crushing Blow (Hammer Mastery)
Mighty Blow (Hammer Mastery)
Irresistible Blow (Hammer Mastery)
Frenzy (Warrior other)
Sprint (Strength)
Bull's Strike (Strength)
Shadow Refuge (Shadow Arts)
That's for AB, swap bull's strike for rez in RA. Shadow refuge can be swapped for a different heal, maybe go for 15 crit w/ 6 tactics for healing sig, or 6 shadow for shadow refuge.
At 12 mastery w/ 16 crit (to hell, its 16!) you have 32% crit chance. You max at around 23-47 damage (+15% +20%). With frenzy, thats 39 DPS with a average damage of 46. That's auto attacking.
Here's the build i thought off...
Assassin/Warrior
Level: 20
Critical Strikes: 16 (12+4)
Shadow Arts: 3
Hammer Mastery: 12
Backbreaker [Elite] (Hammer Mastery)
Crushing Blow (Hammer Mastery)
Mighty Blow (Hammer Mastery)
Irresistible Blow (Hammer Mastery)
Frenzy (Warrior other)
Sprint (Strength)
Bull's Strike (Strength)
Shadow Refuge (Shadow Arts)
That's for AB, swap bull's strike for rez in RA. Shadow refuge can be swapped for a different heal, maybe go for 15 crit w/ 6 tactics for healing sig, or 6 shadow for shadow refuge.
Claymore
Don't know what you used for model, but you might, just for arguments sake, take a thumber build from the Ranger threads and see if a comparable thumber build can be made out of the assassin/wa, using the ranger build as a guideline/model. This is what I am going to do with my axe build, take the sword build as a model.