New bug alert? maybe?

shardfenix

shardfenix

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Il Power Overwhelming Il [HaX]

Whirling doesn't work. Maybe it's a coincidence that 15 arrows and 4 hammer attacks just went through mine, but the chances of that are 1/687 billion, so it's more likely it's bugged. No, the ranger did not have seeking (he had kindle), and no the warrior did not have warriors cunning.
I was very surprised when my test build ranger got ranger spiked in RA through whirling...yeah it sucked.

Winds

Winds

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

CAx

Who was the hammer guy?

Song Rui

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

We are all pretty [ugly]

W/

Owned by Abominable Snowman.

LoneDust

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by shardfenix
Maybe it's a coincidence that 15 arrows and 4 hammer attacks just went through mine
The skill works, your luck sucks. Next time try testing it in-game in a controlled situation before making a fool of yourself.

Hidden in the Mist

Hidden in the Mist

Banned

Join Date: May 2006

There's a chance that you'll block 75% of all attacks. It doesn't mean that when you activate it, it'll block 75 attacks out of 100 always.

infymys

infymys

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Where you aren't

The Bamboo Crew [MOJO]

Don't forget that there are skills and attacks that bypass stances.

tomcruisejr

tomcruisejr

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by shardfenix
but the chances of that are 1/687 billion
its 25% per weapon swing/arrow/wand. where did you pick that that ratio?

bam23

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Wild Blow?

Irresistable Blow goes through Whirling Defense and knocks you down.

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by tomcruisejr
its 25% per weapon swing/arrow/wand. where did you pick that that ratio?
Yes, it is 25% or .25 for each. However the probablity of all 19 hitting is given by 0.25^19. Assuming, of couse, that no stance breaker was used.

0.25^19 is 2.7488E11, 274.88 billion

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Quote:
Originally Posted by tomcruisejr
its 25% per weapon swing/arrow/wand. where did you pick that that ratio?
19 attacks (15 arrows, 4 hammer attacks) all hit with a 25% chance of landing. One attack had a 1/4 chance of hitting, two hitting in a row would be 1/4 * 1/4, etc...

I think anyway.

aB-

aB-

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Another possibility: Rigor Mortis.

Mercury Angel

Mercury Angel

Avatar of Gwen

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wandering my own road.

There's always Guided Weapon I suppose, and an ally can cast that on them.

In any case, I haven't had any problems with Whirling Defence recently. I DID get a bad luck streak as well (Blind + Whirling, and I still got hit a few times in a row), but it was the exception, rather than the norm.

Could just be a quirk in the random number generator. Sometimes, random isn't always all that random when conditions are met.

Spallenzani

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

There is a trick with Warrior's Cunning that may explain why Whirling didn't work. When you use Warrior's Cunning, the skill use icon uses the secondary display spot where stances and shouts normally appear. If a warrior follows Warrior's Cunning immediately with Sprint or Frenzy, the stance display icon covers up the Warrior's Cunning icon, and the opponent will be unable to see that the warrior's attacks are unblockable. Treacherous Empire used this trick in a game again Evil a few seasons ago, and mentioned it during a voice-commentary video of the match.

tomcruisejr

tomcruisejr

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh
19 attacks (15 arrows, 4 hammer attacks) all hit with a 25% chance of landing. One attack had a 1/4 chance of hitting, two hitting in a row would be 1/4 * 1/4, etc...

I think anyway.
fair enough.

should be 3.6xxx e-12 but his approximation is acceptable ~ 1.45xx e-12.

maybe badluck.

mrcake

mrcake

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/N

i had a strange bug doing the ice caves of sorrow mission the other day, i was at lvl 17 and had got up to just needing 200xp to hit lvl 18, carried on going through lvl killing mobs but no lvl 18.. looked in stats window and it said i still needed 200xp, so went and killed a few more mobs and made a concious effort to count the xp that they gave when they died so i could count the 200, but still i never hit 18 it stayed on needing 200 more.

The milk shake

The milk shake

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Pre-Searing Ascalon

R/

the same thing happened to me in AB, i had whirling but this hammer war wouldnt stop missing!!!

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

Whirling Defense has always been like that. I'd have created a thread similar to this aswell but you open yourself up for a flaming. But yes, Whirling Defense doesn't work as the description states.

Funny thing is, I was trying a R/W cyclone axe troll farming build with Bonetti's Defense, Shield Stance and Whirling Defense and both warrior stances worked fine but the troll attacks were going right through Whirling. Yet again, Anet love the warriors.