LAG!!! About to throw GW in trash!!

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

I'm getting more and more issues with displacement as time goes on, especially with stairs and ramps.

I've had countless times where I've ran up/down a staircase to be warped back a few feet to where i was before. Also, when I run past a mob I often get a few feet past them then warp right in front of them again which really hurts the eyes. Its like my client and the servers are disagreeing on where my character actually is.

Anybody else experiencing this?

As for lag, I haven't seen much lately except for the occasional moment where all the monsters just stop then i 'wake' up dead.

Denny Pace

Denny Pace

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Good Eye Sniper [GeS]

Coincidence perhaps, but performance has degraded for me since Anet moved into NCSoft's hosting center. It's not like lag spikes are happening all the time. It's the fact that I'm getting *any*, as I really never did, and when they come, they come in droves.

The only other time I've error 7'd out of a match was while playing on a cheap hotel connection several months ago. It's not only me, either. Members of my guild at the time and opponent guilds have had the same issues. I've been hit by opponents that weren't even there, but WALKED UP TO ME five seconds later. Very strange, and extremely difficult to defend against.

Time periods where lag has been bad are 10 PM ET through about 1 AM ET. I'm located on the east coast, US.

Lex

Lex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

As I said in other post, in other thread, i was getting lots of err7s last week - especially in the past night - it was for sure over 10 of them in 6 hours of play - it was just impossible to play the game properly Before, I got err7s only on "special occiasions" - like one in one-two months.. but in the last week... heh... All rest of my connections like www/teamspeak is ok - just connection to ANets servers is "lagging".

I'm from Poland, playing on Europe... *sob* I'm thinking about high outside temperatures we have lately in Europe - maybe just something/somewhere is overheating?

NJudson

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

I get the occasional lag in a quest/mission, but where the real lag comes is when I'm in a crowded district...arrrgghh! Then to top that off if I try to open multiple windows (ex. inventory, heros window...etc) then it really lags soooooo bad. I don't believe that I have ISP issues as I've recently switched to Verizon FIOS and its really smooth. I do have an old janky computer though that may be a possible source of problems.

IAmAI

IAmAI

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

UK

Oasis Avengers

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There's been no lag for me. FYI, I'm on European servers, if that may have anything to do with it.

Scorpion Boy

Scorpion Boy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh
Seems possible, a number of times when ABing tonight a look on the morale chart indicated that one team was at a disadvantage before the match even started.

Also I seem to have the "0 Files Remaining" load screens for a longer period.
I always have the 0 files remaining for a longer period

Aisius

Aisius

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Melbourne , Australia

Crazy Clan[CRAZ]

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I think with respect to Anet and their game alot of the lag that can be experienced can be due to many sources, some Anet may have a degree of control over and others are completly environmental i.e. world events and what not.

shardfenix

shardfenix

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Il Power Overwhelming Il [HaX]

every time GW is getting ready to release new content, lag takes place. Even in pvp. Here are some things you can do to minimize lag:
  • Nothing
so stop whining about it and let things be. Arenanet knows about their lag problems already.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by shardfenix
every time GW is getting ready to release new content, lag takes place. Even in pvp. Here are some things you can do to minimize lag:
  • Nothing
so stop whining about it and let things be. Arenanet knows about their lag problems already.
Thats pretty much what we did last night.

We sat in GH and talked about Minoriteam and Venture Bros and the upcoming Animaniacs/Pinky And the Brain dvds instead of questing/missions.

Doing nothing ftw! XD (Its funny when someone brings up something GW related and thats off topic )

When I did AB, it was lagtastic (and it was my whole guild experiencing it too).

Deacon Roswell

Deacon Roswell

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

San Diego

Absence of Evidence [AoE]

Lag is not always Anet's problem. I rarely ever lag and I play alot. There is a guildie who ALWAYS gets lag at the first fight after zoning into a mission or quest. It drivers her nuts and she swears at Anet/GW but it's NOT them. I'm always there with her in the same fight and I dont' get that lag.
Maybe your internet sucks? Maybe your machine can't handle the game with resolutions turned up high. (please don't start posting pc specs, we really don't care) Every game I've ever played, whether it be on pc, playstation, or xbox, people always complain about lag.
The game DOESN'T lag for everyone. If Anet were the source of the lag, everyone would get it.

greenchylde

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

CT

Heroes Etc

E/Mo

i hope they can do something to help, gaile. i know that for the first time in many many weeks i personally experienced problems as did all of my guildmates who live in many different areas of the country.

shinrinningu

shinrinningu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Behind you

I was exiled

R/Me

Well, this is a surprise. For the past month or so, I have not been getting any lag. Infact, GW has been running smooth ever since I got more memory for my PC. I also would like to say that the people I play with do not lag. They get choppiness once in a while, but it isn't lag. Anyway, good luck to those of you who are lagging.

Venom

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Calgary, Canada

Idiot Savants

Quote:
Originally Posted by Celios
Past few days I've had the game occasionally lag up as if I was on a wooden modem - pausing for 30 seconds at a time, unfreezing just long enough for everyone to rubberband all over the place then freezing again. At first I thought it might be my internet, but then it started happening to other people with vent staying at a sub-100 ping throughout.
This is exactly what has been happening to me for the past week or so. I've been in contact with tech support, done all they told me to do, and the issue is not resolved. However, they do know (in my case) what the issue is. I can't connect to one of their servers using ports 6112, 80, but I can connect to all other servers with those ports. So it seems weird... Tried doing this with firewall software installed, and without, the results are the same. If you haven't already, try getting the netinfotool from their ftp, run it, and see if anything is blocked in the "Port Tests" section (a log is generated after you run the program).

Formula97

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Cleveland, OH

Through the Eyes of the Dragon [eyes]

Mo/Me

I was getting some bad lag yesterday too. I err7'ed twice, once while just standing in my guild hall. The second time I disconnected I got an err 58 while trying to log back in. Something about being unable to connect to any login servers. I know my internet was working fine, because I was reading a thread on this site at the time and was able to load pages normally. I've had GW for about 8 months now and had only gotten an err7 one other time. Others in my guild and our alliance were getting the same problems.

Lex

Lex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deacon Roswell
The game DOESN'T lag for everyone. If Anet were the source of the lag, everyone would get it.
Yes, I agree with you that ANet (as developer of the game) is NOT a main source of lag.

BUT people here live in different regions of the world and they are connecting to different servers - these servers are not ANet's ones directly. I think that not all servers are the same quality.. AND ANet should tell its partners to get better hard/software to run these servers OR change partners to these with better hard/software.

Talon one

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

ice

W/

i have 2 accounts, one on european and one on american homeservers. but no lag on either of them. i played my new ritualist for around 100 hours in the last month, and still at 0 deaths, no disconnects, no skips, no getting stuck on stairs. either i'm very lucky or its not a problem with the guildwars servers.

i did have trouble connecting sometimes or got disconnected while afk farming during the dragon festival. but once i'm in the game and playing, no problems.

Dark Suoon

Dark Suoon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Organization of Dawn [DAWN]

W/D

yea i got a really bad lag too today.... mostly cuz of events cuz like when chapter 2 beta testing started error 7s everywhere.... its gonna stop

SirShadowrunner

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

at the beach

Gamerzunlimited (GU)

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rafal
I'm from Poland, playing on Europe... *sob* I'm thinking about high outside temperatures we have lately in Europe - maybe just something/somewhere is overheating?
I just switched from Comcast cable broadband to FiOS (verizon fiber),
cheaper and faster, I was getting err-7's almost everyday, when the
install contractors were here, I told him of my cable woes and he said
when it heats up it raises the resistance of the cable and the voltage
levels drop and this causes the drops.
Have not had one drop in 3 weeks of fiber service so far, the down/upload
speed is very stable to, I have the 15m down and 5m up package, and it
tests out at 14.8m and 1.85m everytime.

DaGGeR

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Hi guys,

I'm having these err7 for the past two days that I have logged back into Guild Wars. Although the possibilities of having an issue somewhere else in my comp or ISP is always there but as of past 11 months (yes cant wait for my minipet! ) I have been playing on the same comp with the same ISP. Aside from occasional random err7s I had no major issues.

For two days now I am sure that I am gonna get an err7 everytime I get into TombsUW (thats what I was trying to do for the past two days, do a good old green run without getting err7ed). The frequency and the likeliness of these err7s happening makes you feel there is something wrong or has been a change on ANet's side.

I hope I can get back to playing GW again the way I was playing before. GW was one of the most polished games I've ever palyed. Maybe its too early to say this but does NCSoft have a knack of degrading their games quality after a while? Like CoH wich has become bug city and a shame for game programming majorly because of introducing many bugs with every free content they provided wich added to the base gamecode, or Lineage2's (hackers heaven) awful security safeguarding user informations?

Damn that was not the best way to start my first post but did I say I like this game a lot and thanks for the great game? Well I've said it now.

-Cheers

Helll is for Heroes

Helll is for Heroes

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

True Cinema

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we should have a slight say on how many packets and how big they are to be sent from the client side.

like in counter-strike...

ikepdx

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

I err07ed out 4 times last night. Once in Whitman's Folly, once in Port Sledge, once in our Guild Hall and once when trying to log back in. Happend from around 10:30 to 11:30 PM Pacific. It is not my computer or connection as I could surf the web while "stuck". Fortunately I got that gold chest drop even though my GW stopped responding - thank goodness I had an empty slot in my backpack.

Badger2

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenrath
Without doubt GW has been lagging more since Factions. The lag has been mentioned more frequently in guild chat too.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Prior to Factions I never had a lag problem, now I can't play a day/night without lag. Don't always get 007 but there have been occations when it finally freed up and I could continue playing either my team was not showing on my compass map or I was dead.

DakAtak

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/Mo

My experience is that GW's streaming leads to fragmentation. I had a similar issue that cleared up after a simple reinstall of the game. Remove GW entirely to get a clean install.

Lex

Lex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by DakAtak
My experience is that GW's streaming leads to fragmentation. I had a similar issue that cleared up after a simple reinstall of the game. Remove GW entirely to get a clean install.
Lagging/erroring is something different from slideshow/framing.

I dont think I'll get no more error7 after reinstall. And yes - i did disk defragmentation - after last huge update and factions release.

OMFGimCUTE

OMFGimCUTE

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

a box

I hop around

W/D

ive always been laggy but ive been getting err7s latley

Poison Ivy

Poison Ivy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Toronto

Hopping

Mo/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by LenTano
Is it just my Guild? We are from all over the planet. All of us have been getting lag so bad the past few weeks the game is almost unplayable!
Almost unplayable ><

Totally unplayable is more like it.

EagleEye33

EagleEye33

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

In a House...duh

Untouchable Heroes

R/E

Everyone gets lag now and then, I havent hit that much lag yet to where its unplayable.
But hey all of them have lag, I play WoW also and i get lag there, and i gotta pay for that crap.

LenTano

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hate to burst your bubble about Verison but thats nonsense! Think about it. Both Cable and POTS use copper at the core (Pole to house). If heat caused resistance bad enough to stop freq flow it would happen on the more sensitive phone lines even moreso. Your issue with cable was either node inbalance, ingress (breaks in insolation making your line an antenna for outside freq's) Cheepo Radio Shack "push on" cables or spliters or a bad modem. Some modems don't play well with some routers and get locked up as well. Heat does cause resistance but thats what amps are for! Did your TV stations E7 when it was hot?

Cable companies love getting more customers on a node but are slow to balance the load or repair unreported problems to make everything work well. Other than that if you are on aerial plant I would have tech replace your drop from the pole as the rodents prolly chewed through it exposing the shielding to ingress (they make nests out of the rubber insolation). If your underground (no telephone poles outside) I would check for rover next door digging holes and pulling up the line as dogs love to do. An easy way to see if you have ingress is to watch local stations and see if ghosting is present.(IE: chan 6 has chan 9 ghost on it) If it is, you have "open air" freq's jumping on line. This will cause major packet loss and a number of other issues not to mention bad picture on yout TV stations. HEAT MAKES THIS CONDITION WORSE! This is a free repair and they MUST do it ASAP as the FCC does yearly aerial fly by's checking for leakage and fines the companies that dont maintain a clean cable plant.

Well the hits keep commin. Tonight 2 of us venture into the underworld. After clearing the ice wastes we get to hall before dryders and get stuck on nothing....yes 3 Aatxe, 3 Grasp's the Monk and Myself just standing there unable to move.. but we can attack...mobs can't. After wanding em to death (50 screen shots flexing and dancing in front of em) we could not get the drops and had to map out.

SNIFF SNIFF NOT NETWORK ISSUE......BAD CODE! I am really doubting now that the network guys have anything to do with this. Seems new code added to game is causing mucho bugs and alot of overhead for servers. This would explain the lag issue as well as the plethora of other oddball goings on.

The Network layer is a complex thing and bad code can seem good on some systems and cause major issues on others (routers, NIC's and modems of different mfg) Either way its clear this is more than a few isolated cases.

For those of you not having issues grats. But telling someone to do "nothing" because in your expert opinion "This is how it is" is insane. I doubt if you were having the same degree of problems you would sit idle on your hands! But then again maybe you would.

LT <----Ex Time Warner Cable Lvl 2 Road Runner Field Tech. Ex Sys Admin JPL/NASA Mars Rover Project.

LenTano

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

BTW your theory about fragmentation holds zero water as the vast majority of data from GW is not maintained on our systems. It can make your box slower but it cant make 3 Bladed Aatxe, 3 Grasping Darkness and 2 players freeze in place but still be able to cast and attack.

Other than that I'd be willing to bet cash I have some of, if not THE tightest runnin boxes on the board. As I have been in the IT industry for over 15 years I feel I am qualified to comment on the topic.

KingKryton

KingKryton

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

New Zealand

W/Mo

when i first started playing GW i never had lag, just disconnects due to my net. but now GW keeps dropping me out at the worst possible moment. One time i was chest running with the last of my dollars. i had just accidently deleted a 40k hammer and was ready to quit GW forever, when a gold oni sword dropped for me. as i clicked to pick it up i was frozen and dropped back to login screen , fortunately for me another guy in group picked it up for me and what do ya know, i managed to salvage a sword pommel of fort out of it which i sold for a tidy sum lol

zeroxy

zeroxy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Dark Angels of Rising Chaos [DaRc]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Queen Christie
Lag in gw is horrible. Sometimes I error7 if i run thru a portal, really fustrating !
Yeah that happens alot!
Once, I was running from Ventari's refuge to maguuma stade..then when I step into the maguuma stade portal, the ventari's refuge loadscreen comes up then I got kicked with a wierd err=108 or something ( can't remember number)

Peewee

Peewee

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

London, England

I Uprising I [RAGE]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi
I'm getting more and more issues with displacement as time goes on, especially with stairs and ramps.

I've had countless times where I've ran up/down a staircase to be warped back a few feet to where i was before. Also, when I run past a mob I often get a few feet past them then warp right in front of them again which really hurts the eyes. Its like my client and the servers are disagreeing on where my character actually is.

Anybody else experiencing this?
Yup, but i have always kinda taken it as one of GW querks. I see it as an extra layer of skill. You have to learn the maps you play on perfectly, becuase these 'displacements' usually happen in the same place.

Even worse is when it happens when you are bodyblocking, or being bodyblocked. Seems to me there is a collision detection issue, or maybe its just poor connection.

As for err=7s i dont really get as much as other people seem to get, although i do have a plethora of other problems to moan about. Of late i have been getting more err=7, more 'displacements' and generally more lag, especially associated with chat.

I am not an expert in the field, but this could be a problem not with your personal connection, or even ANETs servers, but perhaps with the company providing the line. I am not sure exactly how the route from Servers--->Your PC works, but when the entire European Servers got emptied of people becuase people err=7 when they mapped ANET blamed the failings on a company providing them the connection or something. International bandwidth providers they called them. Anyway, its possible that the lag isnt due to bad code, faulty routers or anything like that, but perhaps a third party.

Just a suggestion before people start shooting ANET before asking questions

Dahnel

Dahnel

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Rt/Me

sigh ...this will never be fixed, they are to busy adding vitally important features suchs as "sortable login screens" and pointless arrows behind the portraits ..gg anet

Red Locust

Red Locust

Site Contributor

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahnel
sigh ...this will never be fixed, they are to busy adding vitally important features suchs as "sortable login screens" and pointless arrows behind the portraits ..gg anet
Don't be so naive. The people working on such stuff do not work on the servers and the netcode.

llsektorll

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

R/

im sick of this stupid error7 while GvGing it usually happens from 11pm-2am EST when the server is loaded with people....

i know error7s are faults on our end... but when vent works fine inet works smooth and 2 other teammates and I on the east coast error7 at the exact same time.. u gotta wonder if its on my end or on Anets end.. it makes me and my guild very angry while in an intense gvg someone just error7s... i mean if someone does error7 there should be some kind of detector that stops games from being rated if someone error7s

Talon one

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

ice

W/

i'd like a henchman of the same class as replacement for the player that disconnected. if games where someone disconnects were unrated, you'd have people pulling the plug off their modem each time a gvg starts to look bad

if vent and internet explorer run smoothly, it doesnt mean that your connection is perfect, as both these programs can deal with a few lost packets.