Ch3 Storyline Revealed!

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

MM henchie anyone?Do you thin k you'll have to buy the henchie skills?\

Oh yeah big update.......hmmmmmmm doesnt say what its for took a while to download.

Ken Dei

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/Mo

I want to point out the things we players ASKED for in one manner or another to prove the point A.Net still listens.


• Customizable Heroes (party NPCs) that level up with the player, follow player instructions in combat, and use armor, weapons, and skills of the player’s choice.

-(BIG REQUEST, We wanted customizable hench and combat orders.)

• A new game type, Hero vs. Hero Battles will allow a single player to participate in PvP with hero NPCs.

-(A small variation on the request for a 1v1 arena.)

• Two new professions: The Dervish, a scythe-wielding holy warrior and The Paragon, the guardian angels of the Elonian people.

-(The Dervish weilds a 2 handed weapon, we've been requesting a 2h melee weapon class of some format.)

• 4 new guild halls.

-(We've been requesting some new guild halls.)

• 300 new skills.

• 250 Quests, 55 explorable areas, 20 new Story Missions, and three new Challenge Missions.

-(55 explorable areas? That sounds like a big improvement to PvE that we've asked for, but real judgement here should be reserved till we see everything.)

• Peerless online RPG action with no monthly fees!

-(Never to much of this good thing.)

Overall, in one way or another, everything here has been asked for by the player base. A.net still listens.

P.S. I think everyone's misunderstanding the NPCs leveling up with the character, they may mean that if you do a high level, end game quest out of a newbie area, when you go outside the henches have their levels adjusted accordingly.

For example, boosting hench levels to lvl 20 when doing Defend North Kryta Province out of Lion's arch or any other town.

042

042

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Two things:

Customizable henchies- great, but.....
I thought the concept of crappy henchies promoted coop play. Granted, sometimes it has been hard getting players together, especially good ones, to do quests/missions/etc. I suppose this means that we'll be keeping henchies around for a lot longer. So, when you are looking for a group, will you be accepting the player and their "manslave"?

Second, anyone catch the update on www.guildwars.com. New skill groups for each of the new classes:

Paragon Attributes

Spear Mastery (PRIMARY ATTRIBUTE)
Spear Mastery increases the damage you do with spears and your chance to inflict a critical hit when using a spear. Many skills, especially spear attack skills, become more effective with higher Spear Mastery.

Command
No inherent effect. Many Paragon skills, especially those that protect your allies or increase your tactical position on the battlefield, become more effective with higher Command.

Motivation
No inherent effect. Many Paragon skills, especially those related to Energy management or that inspire your allies, become more effective with higher Motivation.

Leadership
You gain 1 Energy for each ally affected by one of your Shouts or Chants (maximum 1 Energy for every 3 ranks).



Dervish Attributes

Mysticism (PRIMARY ATTRIBUTE)
Whenever an Enchantment ends, you gain 3 Health for each rank of Mysticism and 1 Energy for every 2 ranks of Mysticism.

Scythe Mastery
Scythe Mastery increases the damage you do with scythes and your chance to inflict a critical hit when using a scythe. Many skills, especially scythe attack skills, become more effective with higher Scythe Mastery.

Wind Prayers
No inherent effect. Many Dervish Spells, especially those dealing with movement or cold damage, become more effective with higher Wind Prayers.

Earth Prayers
No inherent effect. Many Dervish Spells, especially those dealing with defense or Earth damage, become more effective with higher Earth Prayers.


All in all, I think it looks like a winner.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

Theres no updates that i can see.

RuPee

RuPee

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Los Angeles, CA

[RoD]

Mo/

i wanna name my hench team so bad!!! i would have some stupid theme like transformer names, famous terrorists and dictators, or the names of the guys from the aquabats.

achan1523

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by .defekt
Diablo 2?
LOL I was thinking the exact same thing - all they need to do is add auras that affect party members and i will be happy (GO PALADIN!). except I already felt the D2 excitement when I saw something about "summoning an outcast god and bring about a strange darkness" ... anybody remember Act 2? where suddenly the entire lvl goes black until you finish the horadric cube + staff quest? *sigh* I don't wanna think about moping around in the dark for half the missions lol.

but either way /excited

WasAGuest

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by 042
Customizable henchies- great, but.....
I thought the concept of crappy henchies promoted coop play. Granted, sometimes it has been hard getting players together, especially good ones, to do quests/missions/etc. I suppose this means that we'll be keeping henchies around for a lot longer. So, when you are looking for a group, will you be accepting the player and their "manslave"?
yes, but it will not work as intended:

People can not learn to act like people, rather the shielding of the internet promotes people acting like fools (and from a long time MMOer, that's saying something about the behavior lately in GW). So, PuGs are not an option any more for some. I refuse to PuG anymore. They are not worth the headache. That leaves me with henchies, friends and guildies.
Second, as more chapters come out more areas will become emptier as the player base thins out. Not possible to stop, it happens in every online game. Also add in the fact that if Anet releases another chapter geared towards PvP like Factions (those are Gaile's words, not mine) many may skip it, like me (unless it costs about $25). Henchies will be needed to pick up where the players are not at.

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by 042
Two things:

Customizable henchies- great, but.....
I thought the concept of crappy henchies promoted coop play. Granted, sometimes it has been hard getting players together, especially good ones, to do quests/missions/etc. I suppose this means that we'll be keeping henchies around for a lot longer. So, when you are looking for a group, will you be accepting the player and their "manslave"?

Second, anyone catch the update on www.guildwars.com. New skill groups for each of the new classes:

Paragon Attributes

Spear Mastery (PRIMARY ATTRIBUTE)
Spear Mastery increases the damage you do with spears and your chance to inflict a critical hit when using a spear. Many skills, especially spear attack skills, become more effective with higher Spear Mastery.

Command
No inherent effect. Many Paragon skills, especially those that protect your allies or increase your tactical position on the battlefield, become more effective with higher Command.

Motivation
No inherent effect. Many Paragon skills, especially those related to Energy management or that inspire your allies, become more effective with higher Motivation.

Leadership
You gain 1 Energy for each ally affected by one of your Shouts or Chants (maximum 1 Energy for every 3 ranks).



Dervish Attributes

Mysticism (PRIMARY ATTRIBUTE)
Whenever an Enchantment ends, you gain 3 Health for each rank of Mysticism and 1 Energy for every 2 ranks of Mysticism.

Scythe Mastery
Scythe Mastery increases the damage you do with scythes and your chance to inflict a critical hit when using a scythe. Many skills, especially scythe attack skills, become more effective with higher Scythe Mastery.

Wind Prayers
No inherent effect. Many Dervish Spells, especially those dealing with movement or cold damage, become more effective with higher Wind Prayers.

Earth Prayers
No inherent effect. Many Dervish Spells, especially those dealing with defense or Earth damage, become more effective with higher Earth Prayers.


All in all, I think it looks like a winner.
Thats bull crap, Spear Mastery as primary!? Leadership should be primary! Spearmastery Secondary. What about my dreams of a Ranger/Paragon "Amazon"!

T Lo

T Lo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Almightier [fo]

N/Mo

I laughed pretty hard at the pokemon picture.

But then I thought about it.

If ANet can pull it off right, it would be real fun creating a henchman team.

And who knows, maybe there'll be an arena-type area where we can watch our henchman battle it out in an arena against another person's henchman.

That would be loads of fun.

Solar_Takfar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by T Lo
And who knows, maybe there'll be an arena-type area where we can watch our henchman battle it out in an arena against another person's henchman.
that's pretty much the HvH described, only you'll be in the field fighting along with and commanding your henchs (which is actually better than just watching, imo)

T Lo

T Lo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Almightier [fo]

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevin
Thats bull crap, Spear Mastery as primary!? Leadership should be primary! Spearmastery Secondary. What about my dreams of a Ranger/Paragon "Amazon"!
I was thinking of a Rit/Paragon Guardian angel, or a Paragon/warrior "paladin" (forgive me), or a dervish/elementalist just so I could put so many points into earth or air.

These 2 new classes are certainly jumpstarting my imagination. I can't wait to try them out. I hope my PvE characters will be able to try out the new stuff this weekend. My rit needs a better secondary.

Cyril Aspect

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Boston

N/W

http://www.guildwars.com/events/inga...pvppreview.php

thats the link to the attribute listing

mr manly monk

mr manly monk

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

canda

dragons order

R/Rt

all of the links i have saw saying the storyline dont work:s can anybody post a link for me please?

BigTru

BigTru

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
What are Alliance Battles all about if not PvP???

PvP's got as much as anyone with Factions, you have to PvP to control the towns and all the new armour and weapons, skills and two new class types can be used by PvP characters too.
...You do allience battles by treking through PvE missions to join a fictional PvE allience. You win allience faction which can be used for controlling PvE towns, which give you PvE missions and a reduction in price of PvE items or you can use the PvE faction to buy PvE amber/jadeite to craft PvE armor.



How is allience battles "all about PvP"?

Kalki

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Summoners of Forgotten Gods

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTru
...You do allience battles by treking through PvE missions to join a fictional PvE allience. You win allience faction which can be used for controlling PvE towns, which give you PvE missions and a reduction in price of PvE items or you can use the PvE faction to buy PvE amber/jadeite to craft PvE armor.



How is allience battles "all about PvP"?
My thoughts exactly. Furthermore, people always disregard the 5 arcade like challenge missions that came with Factions, but I love them being in the game, and have had nothing but fun when I've gotten in to groups for them. What I don't like about the challenge missions is the lack of recognition for doing them. There should be ladders on the GuildWars website with listings of top scores on the challenge missions and top alliances controlling towns. This is something that should've shipped with Factions, but I'll be content if it's something planned for the future. Factions has plenty of PvE. I doubt all but a few have already done everything in Factions, and although I have a character with 100% map explored in Cantha I still haven't done everything.

Sorry I'm getting off topic... yeah Nightfall is gonna be great

Maedhros

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Qu??bec, Canada

The Dark Aeon Knights

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by achan1523
LOL I was thinking the exact same thing - all they need to do is add auras that affect party members and i will be happy (GO PALADIN!). except I already felt the D2 excitement when I saw something about "summoning an outcast god and bring about a strange darkness" ... anybody remember Act 2? where suddenly the entire lvl goes black until you finish the horadric cube + staff quest? *sigh* I don't wanna think about moping around in the dark for half the missions lol.

but either way /excited
lol, shouts and chant ARE auras . and for act 2, i totally agree lol.

Aside of that, i find that this chapter will be particularly thrilling! Too bad my parents wont permit me to buy it err.

~Maedhros

Urban_Nomad

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

3rd Era

R/Me

Did EB remove that page? None of the links here are working, and I looked on their site under all the Pre-releases and Coming Soons, Nightfall isn't there....

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Urban_Nomad
Did EB remove that page? None of the links here are working, and I looked on their site under all the Pre-releases and Coming Soons, Nightfall isn't there....
Most likely because EB Games jumped the gun on the Description, and they told them to remove it.

PR goof up FTW.

Dark Suoon

Dark Suoon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Organization of Dawn [DAWN]

W/D

impressive impressive. more impressive than factions. i thought i lost hope of gw but when i see this theres still hope!

kazujin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevin
Thats bull crap, Spear Mastery as primary!? Leadership should be primary! Spearmastery Secondary. What about my dreams of a Ranger/Paragon "Amazon"!
Uh, that's a mistake. Leadership is the primary attribute.

Liu

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

1v1 arenas, I really, really hope they include those

BigBlue42

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Oregon City, OR

Auspicious Incantation [Ai]

R/Rt

I hope Nightfall includes some incentives for Rangers to go back to the bow. If I see another Thumper or Touchie, I'm going to SCREAM. Cheap abuse of an attribute ftw!

shrike98

shrike98

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

Austin, TX

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryFox
I highly doubt they will keep people at 6 slots. I am sure you will get 2 more slots for merged accounts.

Besides you can always buy slots.
Ok, I know it was mentioned in many places we could buy more slots... Is that available NOW? My roomie has 6 PVE characters now and she's screaming for more. If it's available now, how does one do this?

Thanks!

Plushie Penguin

Plushie Penguin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

That plushie penguin on a shelf in your bed room

Rt/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by xMikex
• Customizable Heroes (party NPCs) that level up with the player, follow player instructions in combat, and use armor, weapons, and skills of the player’s choice.
w00t
w00t! penguin henchies FTW!

Maria The Princess

Maria The Princess

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Aequitas Deis

i want a rit henchman just so i can undress him and make him dance for me

bigwig

bigwig

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Nova Scotia

#Dismantle

Quote:
Originally Posted by shrike98
Ok, I know it was mentioned in many places we could buy more slots... Is that available NOW? My roomie has 6 PVE characters now and she's screaming for more. If it's available now, how does one do this?

Thanks!
edit.

check this out.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10010713

vermeer

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Totems of Yog-Sothoth

i remember reading sometime somewhere on guru here, in an interview with the gw head guy, that thier design teams work in 6month intervals. point being that thats proble why nightfall seems more like prophecies. same design team.

sounds good to me,, i started playing this game to revert back to the nastalgic childish feeling of fantasy land, that gets shamed away by our impending swing into the real world where we have to work for a living. now that adulthood hasnt been all its cracked up to be i want to go back.
(picassobitches)

but i never really needed ninjas, although the ritualist i like.

sassoonssamson

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by xMikex
http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?c...ct%5Fid=646706


When a corrupt ruler summons the power of an outcast god and infects the land with a creeping darkness, it will take a band of heroes to save Elona. Guild Wars Nightfall is the roleplaying game gamers have been waiting for – an intimate, heroic experience where your decisions shape your personal game experience and your customizable party becomes an extension of your character. In this third campaign in the award-winning Guild Wars® universe, this is Guild Wars® like you've never seen before. With more than two million copies sold worldwide, Guild Wars® is the award-winning epic roleplaying game that revolutionized online gaming with its free gameplay.


• Customizable Heroes (party NPCs) that level up with the player, follow player instructions in combat, and use armor, weapons, and skills of the player’s choice.

• A new game type, Hero vs. Hero Battles will allow a single player to participate in PvP with hero NPCs.

• Two new professions: The Dervish, a scythe-wielding holy warrior and The Paragon, the guardian angels of the Elonian people.

• 4 new guild halls.

• 300 new skills.

• 250 Quests, 55 explorable areas, 20 new Story Missions, and three new Challenge Missions.

• Peerless online RPG action with no monthly fees!


w00t

WOW canyt wait


• 250 Quests, 55 explorable areas, 20 new Story Missions, and three new Challenge Missions.

scamPOR

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mister_Smiley
It should be intresting to see if its the real offical story line, or something that ebgames came up with.

300 skills new skills, 150 for new characters and another 150 for all other characters which mean new stuff for Assassin and Rits. As for the NPC, thats total going to rule.
6 x 25 = 150 = 25 skills per core as before. I really doubt assy and rit will get more skills.

S H I N O B I

S H I N O B I

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

PSC

R/W

Any reliable info whether Sins and Rits will get AT LEAST new armor designs (sexy egyptian/baggy arabic styles) in Nightfall??? If people cant get new Sin/Rit specific skills in Nightfall, Anet should at least give the Sin/Rit guys something to strive for.... Like new weps/armor...

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

I'm going to create Erys Vasburg with even MORE interrupts in chapter three.... yeeeee

markus_thom

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Australia(the land of lesser games)

neptunes grace

R/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by xMikex
• Customizable Heroes (party NPCs) that level up with the player, follow player instructions in combat, and use armor, weapons, and skills of the player’s choice.

• A new game type, Hero vs. Hero Battles will allow a single player to participate in PvP with hero NPCs.

• Two new professions: The Dervish, a scythe-wielding holy warrior and The Paragon, the guardian angels of the Elonian people.

• 4 new guild halls.

• 300 new skills.

• 250 Quests, 55 explorable areas, 20 new Story Missions, and three new Challenge Missions.

• Peerless online RPG action with no monthly fees!


w00t
The customization with the hench seems like a good idea.
Will add alot more gameplay and enjoyment not to mention satisfaction with character building.

Neriandal Freit

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
I'm going to create Erys Vasburg with even MORE interrupts in chapter three.... yeeeee
Haha, I like the idea Avarre :P

Miss Innocent

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

I wander.

Mo/R

I hope that when I'm lazy and just grabbing six random henchies, I don't have to customize them. Sometimes, I really want that Dom Mesmer to have Backfire.... and sometimes I don't care, he's there because I need one more warm body for the Wurm to beat on while we kill it.

WasAGuest

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Pure speculation here and maybe just hopeful thinking:

I see each player character getting a "AI friend" (for lack of a better term in this discription), maybe up to 3 AI friends. As the the player goes through the story they level up with the character and generally tag along growing as the players grow. In other words, rather than having to customize them constantly or each time you zone out, these friends are "attached" somehow and stay with you.
Once further into the game and more henchies are available then the usual crew of Devona/Aiden/Mhenlo are available to fill up the spots.
I also see the possibility of smaller groups of players grouping and bringing their AI friends to make a full team.
I also hope this "feature" carries backwards through other chapters so the new AI friends can travel with you to different chapters.

Where do I get this idea? Well, it's pure 100% speculation but it makes since in my mind. This kind of change requires a good deal of storage space on the servers and would help to explain the option of Material Storage we just got instead of a real storage update. It would also make the pets getting DP make more since as pets will be considered as part of the team now as the AI friends can level with the players, and throwing the pets into that same fold would make since... to me anyway.

Thoughts?

Solar_Takfar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

I don't know... I hope it's not restricted to just one or a couple "sidekicks", I hope I can go out with a full suite of 7 customized henchmen.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by WasAGuest
Pure speculation here and maybe just hopeful thinking:

I see each player character getting a "AI friend" (for lack of a better term in this discription), maybe up to 3 AI friends. As the the player goes through the story they level up with the character and generally tag along growing as the players grow..

Thoughts?
to take this one little bit further if you dumped a long term henchie you would lose them completely and have to start again with whatever level hench is available in the area you grab another.

at login screen you might see xxxxname at yyylocation and a list of hench in the party.

works for me but since that is a bit ambitious i can but hope

Cresint

Cresint

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Aevum Instaurativus (AI)

Mo/

I hope they bring back skill missions

Vermilion

Vermilion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

NY

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
I'm going to create Erys Vasburg with even MORE interrupts in chapter three.... yeeeee
This whole HerovsHero thing seems a lot less fun all of a sudden.

Hopefully I can finally make Hamstorm and 55 monk henchmen.

edibleorange

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ithaca, NY

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Duckchow
Very cool, can't wait for a PvE weekend to try some of these.
you mean the pvp weekend event coming up, right?