Survivor and Hero Titles

Personally i found that due to the excessive amounts of power leveling for survivor titles or fame farming for the hero titles, the original *prestige* in these titles have fallen, anyone else agree in some way.

whatever title someone has theyve put the time into getting that title and thats cool but whats prestige in gw worth anyways? a very large part of gw players are very mean people with no respect for others so i say that titles are for self enjoyment. imo prestige in gw comes from a green font saying youve just won the hall of hero's...well that one example

I agree, for me attaining titles is about self satisfaction, rather than ability to show off my new title. The only one probably worth its weight in gold at the moment is the "Grandmaster Explorer" title, as it HAS to be earned by the individual. This is the one I show on one of my characters.

I am currently working on 3 titles on my newish mesmer: Survivor, Protector of Tyria, and Explorer. What I am doing is screen shotting my progress through the game, kind of like making a diary, which I may post up one day. So far Im lvl 15 with all missions\quests to Lions completed successfully (got to Lions last night )

Having the titles as motivation, is definitely making me play better, Im thinking ahead every step of the way. I think the way the game has gone since titles were introduced, has caused some titles to lose prestige.. but unfortunately, that’s just the nature of the game.

No, I still admire those who have a tier 3 survivor title, or have a place more than 80% explored or have all 180 elites currently available. Come to think of it, any maxed out title is worthy of admiration as most of us don't bother with them.

Even if the title is completly farmed, that still showes that the person had the money/friends to do that, and for them, it's still an achievement.

But.. you're entitled to your opinion, the same as I'm entitled to mine and if I choose to display a title for my characters, I do so because I choose so not because someone else has a good or bad opinion about the title in question.

The hero title (or Rank as it used to be known) has always been garbage.

Yeah shake, I agree with your statement. I was one of the peeps who shunned the Survivor title, having been hosed a few times by survivor aspirants leaving mid-mission. Now I find myself level 17 and without any deaths completely by mistake. Even after I realised it, I made a promise to myself to not change the way I play in PvE, which is frontline, all out, swinging a hammer. Now I'm closer, and all too aware of it. In a way I'm dieing to just go out in a blaze of glory on some mission and let it end, because I know if I get it now I can never wear it with the way it's been represented. So if I get it, yee haw... one step further to a big deal, but until then I'm still going to be leading the charges and picking on the biggest, baddest mob out there.

EDIT: And it means even less to me because 14 of those levels I got from the Factions side of things, which is like a fast track to level 20, with max armor LONG before a Prophecies toon would have access to it.

There used to be any?! When?

In my opinion, survivor title was supposed to be like Hardcore mode in D2. You play the game carefully, such and such. So you get survivor title for playing the game a lot for quite some time to gain enough exp for this title. But in GW ppl do EVERYTHING to get this title, from power-leveling to skill-capping to quest/mission-running.

Now, I'm not saying that any of those methods are illegal or anything. Skill capping is hard, yes, but you're not doing it because you want the skills, you're doing it for THE TITLE. You know it, I know it. And that, in my opinion, makes survivor title meaningless.

I have the survivor title on my Ranger, Without XP farming and mission running.. Just the help of my Guild m8. So im litlle bit proud of it
But it is a Factions character so i was level 17 when i left the isle...
Now i would like to get it on my Prophecies Monk i just started. that would be a challenge I think.

But i only want those title's for self satisfaction, not to show off

So playing the game in a smart way is somehow wrong in your eyes?

What else are we supposed to do to get that title? Pop monsters for 20-something experience per kill until we get there? Wouldn't that also make the title meaningless, I mean, if you're only killing the monsters for the title? Doing quests/missions. Bzzzzt! Wrong, only doing it for the title. Meaningless!

*casts Mantra of Flame*

Read?

I read all that. I just think it's silly to arbitrarily dismiss one perfectly valid way of earning experience. Heck, it's not even as if capping skills is the easiest business. If anything could kill you in Factions, it's some of the Elementalists bosses. Having capped all 180 skills on one character, let me tell you, it's definitely not the safest way to get your experience, and a bit more interesting than most.

Fame farming for rank titles takes an incredible amount of fortitude and persistance; as much so - if not more - as for any other title. Therefore no, they haven't lost any prestige.

Uh. I skill cap because, you know, I want the skills.

Survivor title...ugg. Don't you just love getting one of these folks in your party.

Afraid to commit to a fight and make a contibution to the party.
Generaly a waste of a player slot.

Yeah, a warrior is going to cap Ether Renewal because he wants the skill... it has nothing to do with the title.

Actually, yes. I began my skill capping before the titles even came out; my goal is to collect *every* skill in the game on one character. I would've continued even if they hadn't made the title.

(As an aside, if you're curious, I've collected over 400 of the 784 skills. I have approximately 380 left (just under that, but I don't have the spreadsheet with me at the moment). If you care, you can monitor my progress here: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/User:Eudas.)

Capping and purchasing skills is like collecting Magic cards. It makes your deck (characters/builds) more versatile. You can switch faster without having to go make skill purchases.

So yes, people do cap things because they want them, not just because it's an efficient way to gain xp for a title. (Though it is nice that skill capping feeds itself.)

I'm not sure that you'll believe me, but there were people who had 100% Tyrian Exploration long before the title was invented, too.

eudas

My monk captured Ether Renewal (along with 140 others thus far) because I wanted to have it unlocked and available. I'm doing it all on one character because a monk is the easiest thing to take around PvE. My UAS campaign started long before titles were even an idea.

Funny, when I was going for the higher survivor tiers, I felt the exact opposite. I wouldn't dream of taking other players along on my adventures. Why waste a party slot on a flaky player if you can use it for another perfectly reliable henchie?

Well.. my mesmer has unyielding aura on him.. why? Because I got bored during the days of prophecies and decided to get him all elites for the hell of it and had all prophecies elites before the title and factions appeard and a lot of these skills were capped before you got extra xp for it. No, no survivor title on that one.

Also, my aim is to have characters who at least have all primary profession skills on them, that includes my survivor attempt, has very little to do with the extra xp.

Btw, as a caster aiming for tier 2 of survivor, the only thing I can think of where I'm not 'helping' my team is when I"m kiting. You know, that wonderful skill you pick up in pvp where you get flamed for NOT kiting?

I have no respect at all for survivor titled people. None.

If you don't die a few times, I don't think you could possibly be having much fun.