+5 Energy Weapons in Tyria: Bug or Design Choice?

Cassandra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

This has been discussed in many different forums/subforums, but I think it's really time to put it to the general discussion, in the hope also of an "official" word on the matter

The point: actually, gold (and as such randomly dropping) weapons with the +5 energy inherent bonus only and exclusively drop in Cantha. They don't drop anywhere in Tyria. For what is known up to now, they don't even drop in areas that should be common to both worlds, namely FoW and UW.

My statement is based on experience in game (both mine and friends'), on the trading activity in which I am daily engaged, on the observation of the auction sites and trading forums in the past months, and lastly on the discussion arisen, among others, on these boards. For me, it all started with the fact that, since Factions came out, I strongly wanted a Firey Dragon Sword +5 for my chara, and some months later I have yet to even see one of them.

Now, some more info for those not completely sure of how it works.

1. The +5 energy bonus is an inherent bonus, like the +15% when life over 50% damage modifier, and not an upgrade you can stick to a weapon.

2. You can find, in game, some +5 energy Tyrian skinned weapons: the fact is that certain weapons (like Serpent Axes, Brute Swords, many types of bows) drop BOTH in Tyria and in Cantha. If you pay attention, you will find that the only tyrian skinned +5 weapons currently available are those dropping in Cantha.

3. Before the release of Factions, due to an unintentional update within the patch of the 25th of April, for a short period of time +5 energy weapons started dropping (in Tyria, as it was obviously the only land available at that moment). This was blocked with a later update that same day (or the day after, I don't recall; curiously guildwiki doesn't report on this accident, although it did at the time). Supposedly, a certain amount of Tyrian weapons with +5 nrg dropped: on this board there were screens of a Brutesword and of a Spiked Axe, and word of wingblades, of hammers and bows.


My question is the following: the fact that now only Cantha drops this kind of weapons is a design choice (like the storage functions only available to factions purchasers), or is it just a bug?

I'd like to hear what other people think, and at the same time I'd like to manifest to the great guys from Anet reading these boards that I really want a +5 FDS and a +5 Chaos Axe, so act accordingly

Across The Battle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Jersey

W/

Its a design choice...its meant to be there. Theyve added +5 energy weapons to PvP and a crafter in PvE I dont think THAT is a bug.

Seef II

Seef II

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

US

R/Mo

Yeah but the crafter is in... Cantha, at the endgame.
The 20/0 and 0/20 collector rods in Tyria haven't been updated (but the 20% recharge only is handy for PvP for spiking).

Heelz

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

TLH

E/N

What does ANet have against Tyria? It seems like they've abandoned it.

Zui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

Mo/

Design. It's how they intend to sell more games.

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

The +5energy weapon were dropped BEFORE Factions came out.

The item is in no way Cantha-exclusive.

TheMadKingGeorge

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

None

Mo/W

its called making a profit buy this so you can get new items instead of buying them for expensive ammounts from canthan players buy the next chapter so you dont fall behined in pvp in hoh

you all keep forgeting anet is a company that needs to make a profit

KurtTheBehemoth

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

tubbyville

Kurt's Royal Guardians

Mo/E

Yay for Arena Net, Once again Alienating Tyrian players in an unfair way. We would buy more copies of factions if the game was worth the money. Don't continue to make petty updates to make Factions a requirement for Guild Wars players in Tyria.

Cassandra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

I only have one account, and I have merged Prophecies with Factions: can someone with only Prophecies tell if in the PvP chara creation screen weapons with +5 energy are available?

With Factions, I have them in my menu. If Prophecies-only accounts don't have them, then the matter is probably clear...

majoho

majoho

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Denmark

Merge with other factions sucks threads please.

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

I personally would like to see some old skinned weapons with the new mods on them. I've merged my prophecies and factions accounts so I have no qualms about 5 energy weapons, just the skins.

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

I never even noticed the lack of +5 energy weapon drops on Tyria. If this true, that royally sucks for Prophecies-only players using their PvE characters to PvP. Maybe it's a bug though? They turned the drops on too soon and disabled them, but forgot to turn them on again?

Cassandra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by majoho
Merge with other factions sucks threads please.
That was not my point and I hope the thread doesn't go that way.

I am too convinced that it is a bug: otherwise, even if considering them a Factions-only feature, why wouldn't Factions accessible areas like UW or FoW drop them as well?

My bet is more on the "turned off but by mistake never turned on again" situation.

Carth`

Carth`

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

As people have said, it's part of the abandoning Tyria so that people buy Factions marketing strategy.

Metanoia

Metanoia

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

It's such a shame that they let all those skins (old armours, not just items) go to waste. Surely Gaile, whom we know is a champion of all things pretty, has said something on the subject?

Cassandra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth`
As people have said, it's part of the abandoning Tyria so that people buy Factions marketing strategy.
If it was like you are saying, then what will happen with the release of Nightfall?

Would +5 nrg weapons remain an exclusive of Cantha? Unprobable, it wouldn't certainly help in pushing Chapter 3.

Then would Tyria remain the only land without them? Unprobable as well, also considering that a recent update has introduced the Totem Axe, a +5 energy green weapon (currently the only +5 weapon droppable in Tyria): this introduction sure doesn't support the idea "no +5 for Tyria".

I still think it's a bug.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Metanoia
It's such a shame that they let all those skins (old armours, not just items) go to waste. Surely Gaile, whom we know is a champion of all things pretty, has said something on the subject?
I dont think they will update Tyria to match the features of Cantha.

Such as 15k Grotto armor with all stats. Not gonna happen, imo.

For Tyria, that function is already covered by Obsidian/Fow Armor.

As for the +5 items. I believe Anet set it up so only the common items will get +5.

FoW and UW is accesssible to both, so i can imagine a +5 energy Chaos axe floating around...but maybe thats as real as a 15^50 gold Tyrian Sickle...

Who knows really.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Isn't it easy enough to buy +5 Energy weapons from players in game? I know that some of the Tyrian-exclusive skins won't have this mod available, but for the most part the developers didn't "abandon" the Prophecies players by having these weapons only drop in Cantha...they are readily available to any Prophecies players via the buy/sell market.

And the last I saw, the Totem Axe drops in Prophecies and it is a +5 Energy weapon...

eudas

eudas

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Tx, USA

The Infinite Monkeys [TYPE]

W/

ask someone you trust to buy you the item X from chapter Y. there, you didn't have to buy the new chapter just to get new eq. Amazing!

eudas

Vahn Roi

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

15^50 > +5e

ERMC

ERMC

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

totem axe drops in Tyria

+5 energy
cheap and easy to get if u don't want to buy it problem solved

milias

milias

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Defected back to America

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vahn Roi
15^50 > +5e
Generally speaking, 15>50 is for melee classes, and +5e is for casters, in particular monks.

Fluffyx

Fluffyx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Courtney PantsuLand

Death By Teazu [TEA]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by ERMC
totem axe drops in Tyria

+5 energy
cheap and easy to get if u don't want to buy it problem solved
I don't think thats the problem here. What the OP is trying to say is that she wants to see +5 energy weapons with Tyrian skins, the Totem would be considered a unique skin.