Wondering if they Ditched the whole "embodyment of the gods" thing

Heres what we got for Dervish



Mysticism (PRIMARY ATTRIBUTE)
Whenever an Enchantment ends, you gain 3 Health for each rank of Mysticism and 1 Energy for every 2 ranks of Mysticism.

Scythe Mastery
Scythe Mastery increases the damage you do with scythes and your chance to inflict a critical hit when using a scythe. Many skills, especially scythe attack skills, become more effective with higher Scythe Mastery.

Wind Prayers
No inherent effect. Many Dervish Spells, especially those dealing with movement or cold damage, become more effective with higher Wind Prayers.

Earth Prayers
No inherent effect. Many Dervish Spells, especially those dealing with defense or Earth damage, become more effective with higher Earth Prayers

I suppose it could be under mysticism but I hope they didnt get rid of it all together. That was one of the main reasons I wanted to make one in the first place.

Either under Mysticism or, assuming there are multiple forms of gods to choose from, 1 or 2 under Earth and Wind, going for specialized gods.
My bet is Mysticism.

lol actually when I saw mysticism I thought immediately that all "embodiments of gods" would be listed under that attribute.
Won't stop me from make my little monk temprorarily a Dervish (when Nightfall comes out) because I know for a fact that she really is a a god

Why am I getting images of Contemplation of Purity spamming in my head...

Maybe a Dervish is a good secondary for an Elementalist, to power up his/her Fire, Water, Earth and Air Magic attacks with Prayers.

I don't think they'd get rid of that, after announcing it officialy as a big feature. it's also the only really unique ability of the class.

Looking at Mysticism, Im fairly sure all they did was ditch the 'temporary' aspect.

The announcement came from a gamespot interview, if I recall correctly. 3rd party preview descriptions are not exactly known for pinpoint accuracy <_<

That, and, the attributes themselves don't tell you all that much.


Personally, should transformation skills be implemented, I don't think they'd make for a good full attribute line. Just doesn't seem like it would synergize well.

However, as a small handful of skills in a broader attribute line, such as Mysticism, Earth Prayers, or Wind Prayers, it makes a lot more sense. Especially Mysticism, if they want to keep them as unique effects that you can't just dabble in and take out of the profession.

Though, it goes without saying that it's just my opinion.

Hmm yea, still, it's something pretty big to be erroneously described in a preview if it doesn't in fact exist.

It's soul reaping, but easier to trigger!
The real question, now, is how annoying it will be to try to get lots of enchantes on/off people. Mesmer FTW!

My prediction is that the transformations fall under the earth, wind and mysticism lines. I expect they'll count as enchantments, to make the primary attribute key to their usage.

ie.

Form of Maat - Enchantment. You take the form of the lesser healing god Maat for 5...18 seconds with attributes of 0...12. Your skillbar is replaced with four healing skills and a transformation canceling skill.
15 energy, 2 sec cast, 15 sec recharge. Mysticism.

As I posted in another thread:

You mean to say Dwayna in Wind Prayers, grenth holds power over cold...

FC Dervish.. wo!

Geez, it reminds me of when The Scribe mentioned FC MM's.... that was just shocking...

I meant what I meant. not that it's important, it was just some quick speculation.

dervish/monk tanks with contemplation of purity as their uber selfheal/energy management spring to mind.

I am not sure if actively self removing enchants and recasting them will make an efficient engine out of Mysticism. Mysticism seems to be a passive support engine to enchant heavy builds.

On another note, someone in another forum suggested zealot spam on Dervish but I doubt Mysticism bonuses activate on enchant renewal (rather than normal ending). Otherwise it would be abit crazy.

Regarding the God forms, as long as they are balanced and not overly spectacular, I would be glad. Otherwise, all you see in pve or random pvp will be Dervishes

@Silethas Celaith

Dervish/Monk tanks with short lasting prot enchantments like Reversal of Fortune and Shield Guardian come to mind. CoP is still good, just not needed. As long as people are swinging at you, with 12 mysticism and 10 prot, you can just keep yoursefl up for a loooonng time alternating RoF and shield guardian. RoF counters 2 attacks (on average) and heals for 36, shield guardian counters 1 attack and heals for 100 (also 60 for people in about half aggro bubble range). And spamming this doesn't cost that much energy.

@Miss Innocent
Order of Pain, Dark Fury, Order of Apostasy, Aegis chains. With 12 mysticism, thats over 10 pips of energy regen. A 16 mysticism character gains 24 energy from each set of orders, order of apostasy takes 25 energy.... hmm now OoA is spammable cool.

I love CoP..but I was thinking of Tranquility.

its wierd though that because of how Myssticism is stated of being... that the dervish class origionally intended as a new melee class has become a major class for Casters...

wierd aye

just wait until the final version is out. I wouldn't be surprised if the bonus applied for dervish enchantments only.