Banished God in Nightfall?..

Storm Crow

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(Not sure if this goe here, but, whatever.)

Just a speculation, but I believe that the Banished God in the storyline blog for Nightfall may be related to the missing Elementalist god. Could anyone with higher insight than myself spread some light over this subject? Thanks!

Griev

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There is no missing elementalist god.. Elementalists worship the god that pertains to the specific element they use.

Ira Blinks

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Rodgort?

Sai Rith

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OR Trogdor!

jackie

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Maybe it's the Ex-God of Death that is mentioned in the Four Horseman quest

Though Grenth won 'it' 5-0 so not sure if the God is still alive somewhere.

scrinner

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Banished god= Guy making all the chaos guys that invaded tyria and cantha

Plushie Penguin

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I'm thinking it is the death god grenth over threw
a quote from wiki
"Grenth wasn't always the god of death. The previous death god was Dhuum, but Grenth destroyed his tower and killed him and took control over the Underworld."

Guardian of the Light

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O NOES ITS THE ALMIGHTY BANISHED GOD CHUCK NORRIS!!!!

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Dhuum does sound like the BANISHED god we're looking for.

Avarre

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Dhumm kinda dead hihi. Though eradication never stopped a storyline!

My vote still goes towards Menzies, you know, the one in charge of the legions of Shadow, including the Darknesses? That said, Dhumm is cooler.

Raxxman

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Dhumm's name sounds too much like Dumb..

Though it would be cool.

Avarre

Avarre

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It's pronounced more like 'doom', I'd hope

Plushie Penguin

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you can't kill a god, and even if he was killed, he would come back to the underworld since he is dead

Francis Demeules

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I say the same thing like Avarre: I vote Menzies too

And Penguin, perhaps not killing a god, I rather say to banish him, to seal him so he can't escape again.

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Unkemptwolf

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Its gotta be Menzies. I mean, hes the god of shadow, banished (and held at bay) by the forces of Balthazarr. Who else could fit better for a game entitled "Nightfall"?

Goats17

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True, although it will be entertaining if Nightfall comes out and it isn't Menzies :O

But it probably will be.

Bar Fight

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i just think its kinda wierd how there trying to string these stories along. like with old Tombs being overrun and them having to implement the battle isle cuz of the chaos rift and such. Who knows, maybe all that 2 man UW farming pissed the guy off too much and now he wants some revenge for us disgracing his honor/pride. Heh anywho. Ill be interested to see how it turns out. (These new classes are weak sauce for PvP so far btw)

Makaelthos Solcry

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menzies AND dhuum i say.

Venice Queen

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I've been saying Menzies all along =P

Captain Arne Is PRO

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Victo

Avarre

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Victo is a shadow warrior, a servant of Menzies I don't think he's immortal (the guy is dead and farmed into the dust, after all!)

Elena

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actually i think Victo is a ghostly hero who got pwnzorred by the chaos when they invaded the tombs hence why they got his stuff

Avarre

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Except for the fact that Victo's weapons are all shadow or dark-color weapons, that might have made more sense =/

Unless all the weapons were corrupted..

yeah_hi

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I wonder if Menzies is pronounced 'Men-zees', or 'Ming-is' as per the 'traditional' Scottish pronunciation?

Trivial I know, just curious! I think 'Ming-is' sounds more evil, but then again I'm probably just associating it with Ming The Merciless

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Mera Regila

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It can't, simply can't be Lord Victo. A few reasons here:

1. He was NOT a god, he was a Lord of Orr, a long dead society, when the Charr invaded Orr, they destroyed it. *SPOILERS* AND Vizier Khilborn used the Forbidden Magic to try and save Orr, which, in turn, destroyed it.

2. Lord Victo is DEAD, that is why his Weapons are dropped by The Darknesses in TOPK insinuates that he died battling The Darknesses and they took his weapons.

Mera Regila

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If anyone here has ever done all of the FoW, or at least read up on it. They would know that Menzies failed to take the Fissure due to the efforts of the ascended heroes (us) thwarting the Shadow Army at every turn during their attmpts to take the Fissure of Woe from Balthazar's control.

Idk what this has to do with it, but Menzies is in the Fissure isn't he, trying in vain to steal it from Balthazar and his Ascended Heroes. I really dont think the god will have anything to do with Nightfall at all.

lapsus

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Or maybe some sort of Dhuum/menzies combo. Like Dhuums shattered soul (soul magic is popular these days) has like attached itself to menzies.

DarthLasing

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SD

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Victo is a elonian king I believe..
Could someone tell me who Menzies is and where to get the four horsemen quest? It looks quite intresting, I want to get more into this thread.

B??x??44????1@$

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Or perhaps Victo, just like Illian and Elswyth are all generals of the Shadow Army. That's why they are the ones looming over the Hall of Hero's...

Avarre

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthLasing
Victo is a elonian king I believe..
Could someone tell me who Menzies is and where to get the four horsemen quest? It looks quite intresting, I want to get more into this thread.
Menzies is the half-brother of Balthazar, and has named himself Lord of Destruction in an attempt to usurp Balthazar.

The Four Horsemen can be taken from the Reaper of the Chaos Planes, in the deep underworld.

Roupe

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My Guess is its Menzies, I think Menzies have aquired some of Dhuums power (the remnant energies (storms of chaos, etc), and has been roaming the underworld & mists for more power & minions.

Thus some of the servants that once followed Dhuum, now follows Menzies -since Menzies has some of the remnant energies of Dhuum.

Numa Pompilius

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Menzies might be the main badguy, but if so I bet the story arcs around reassembling Dhuum.

DarthLasing

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Thank you Avarre.
The four horsemen!! wtf! Armegeddon referance here!

Giga Strike

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i get menzies but where r u getting duhmm? ive never heard of him. also i wonder if any of the guild wars creators are homestar runner fans since rodgort is trogdor spelled backwards. also, maybe menzies is the assassin god. so far the assassin has been thrown under lyssa but maybe they do have their own.

Relambrien

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From what I remember from other posts around Guru

Menzies is to Balthazar as Dhuum is to Grenth

In other words, Menzies tried to take over the Fissure of Woe, and Dhuum, iirc, had some grudge against Grenth, and so tried to take over the Underworld or something. However, Grenth defeated him, possibly with the Ascended heroes' help.

So the reason these two are the most speculated is that they are already explained in the game, and both fit the role of a "banished" or "outcast" god.

EDIT: The forum didn't like my analogy shorthand so I did away with it.
EDIT 2: Fixed some mistaken wording.

Gorebrex

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The banished god is Gwen! No longer trapped, merely a shadow of her former power, she is released from her being bound in the little girl's body, AND IS SERIOUSLY PO'D!

DarthLasing

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Gwen is dead and doing serving grenth as his ^^
We all know that.

Goats17

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Relambrien
From what I remember from other posts around Guru

Menzies is to Balthazar as Dhuum is to Grenth
Close, but not quite. Menzies is to Balthazar as Grenth is to Dhuum. The story goes that Dhuum was the origianal god of Death. Grenth overthrew him.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

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this does tie in the..the original tombs was HoH, in HoH you earn Balthazar's Faction, so HoH=Balthazar and Menzies got beat back at FoW so he bid his time.. when he saw that the ascended heros who beat him were prepping to enter cantha, and thus leaving the Tombs Menzies knew he could strike back at Balthazar by taking Tombs, this takeover thusallowed Menzies to build up his strength enough to attack Cantha..for unknown reason, but nonetheless he attacked.. and now in Nightfall..he has finally built up enough of an army to strike at Elona a weakened nation due to the loss of its heroes in the crystal desert. And if Menzies takes Elona then he has an entire LAND under his control.. this...would not be good for us.. just my specualtion..