Leaving my little box....sorta - another PVE healing build

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

27 Jul 2006 at 04:02 - 1

So I thought I would give Blessed Light a try since it seems like a pretty nice skill.

Divine Favor 13
Healing Prayers 16

Healing Touch
Blessed Light [E]
Signet of Rejuvanation
Ethereal Light
Orisan of Healing
Dwanya's Kiss
Vigorous Spirit
Rez

Blessed Light sounds like a very awesome skill to me. It heals for 100+ health, and removes one condition and one hex. I used to carry Mend Ailment/Condition and Remove Hex with me all the time, but Blessed Light let me free up some slots for Sig of Rejuvanation and Vigorous spirit.

Has anyone else been playing with Blessed Light? If so I would love some pointers on making an effective build around it.

Poison Ivy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Toronto

Hopping

Mo/A

27 Jul 2006 at 04:08 - 2

Your gonna suffer big from energy problems, throw out Vigorous unless you have Assassins on the team, pick either Ethereal or Orison, you won't need that many 5 energy heals, and take Rebirth as your Rez. Use the remaining slots for Mesmer Insp. energy management skills.

K U J A

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Montreal

Lords Lonely Lovers

Mo/Me

27 Jul 2006 at 07:50 - 3

And for god's sake take signet of devotion over sig of rejuvenation.

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

27 Jul 2006 at 17:50 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poison Ivy

Your gonna suffer big from energy problems... Use the remaining slots for Mesmer Insp. energy management skills.

I have managed to control my energy with ease thus far and I am confident in my abilities to do so in the future. But thanks for your concern.
Quote: Originally Posted by Ivy throw out Vigorous unless you have Assassins on the team I have found VS very useful since it was updated. It makes maintaining Warriors as well as Assassins a lot easier for me and also gives Dwayna's Kiss an extra boost.
Quote: Originally Posted by Ivy

pick either Ethereal or Orison, you won't need that many 5 energy heals I fail to see why I should pick one or the other when both have different uses. Ethereal is a strong, cheap heal with a relatively fast recharge, but it can't be used if I am being attacked. Orison is weaker, but highly spammable. I liked using both.

Quote:

Originally Posted by K U J A

And for god's sake take signet of devotion over sig of rejuvenation. for god's sake I like using Rejuvantion more than Devotion due to it's shorter casting time and the fact that it results in a much bigger heal 99% of the time.

Thanks for your feedback guys.

holden

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

[NICE]

Mo/

27 Jul 2006 at 20:12 - 5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vahn Roi

I have managed to control my energy with ease thus far and I am confident in my abilities to do so in the future. But thanks for your concern.

I have found VS very useful since it was updated. It makes maintaining Warriors as well as Assassins a lot easier for me and also gives Dwayna's Kiss an extra boost.

I fail to see why I should pick one or the other when both have different uses. Ethereal is a strong, cheap heal with a relatively fast recharge, but it can't be used if I am being attacked. Orison is weaker, but highly spammable. I liked using both.
for god's sake I like using Rejuvantion more than Devotion due to it's shorter casting time and the fact that it results in a much bigger heal 99% of the time.

Thanks for your feedback guys. seems like you got all the answers. why did you ask for help?

your pve healing build's uber

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

28 Jul 2006 at 02:05 - 6

It wasn't my intent to come off as an elitest, I just felt that I should...defend my build by sharing my reasoning.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

ender6

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mo/

28 Jul 2006 at 17:28 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vahn Roi

I have managed to control my energy with ease thus far and I am confident in my abilities to do so in the future. But thanks for your concern.

The fact of the matter is, you will eventually run into scenarios where you will have e-management issues. It is always best to be prepared. IH/MoR/ED are some recommended means of handling energy issues taken from the Mesemer Inspiration line.
The advice here is simple: look into it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vahn Roi

I have found VS very useful since it was updated. It makes maintaining Warriors as well as Assassins a lot easier for me and also gives Dwayna's Kiss an extra boost. I like your reasoning and agree to a certain extent. If I am monking in an area where enchant stripping is heavy, vigorous spirit becomes a liability and goes unused.
The advice here: That slot should remain flexible and really isn't part of your core build. Develope other options to take in place of Vig Spirit.

Quote: Originally Posted by Vahn Roi I fail to see why I should pick one or the other when both have different uses. Ethereal is a strong, cheap heal with a relatively fast recharge, but it can't be used if I am being attacked. Orison is weaker, but highly spammable. I liked using both. You may like using both, but when you have a skillbar with an 8 skill max load, which is always a few skills short of what you want, why waste a slot with a nearly duplicate (yet inferior) skill? So you can spam it? That's foolish.
The advice here: Don't be stubborn and defensive, you turned to this forum for advice. This is one of the worse decisions you have presented to your peers. Listen up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vahn Roi

for god's sake I like using Rejuvantion more than Devotion due to it's shorter casting time and the fact that it results in a much bigger heal 99% of the time. That's a preference. I too have a guilty pleasure when it comes to signet of devotion.
The advice here: Sometimes it comes down to a coin toss -- go with your preference.

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Originally Posted by Vahn Roi

Thanks for your feedback guys. Your welcome. And I won't go through this trouble again.

NinjaKai

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Duality Of The Dragon

30 Jul 2006 at 11:01 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vahn Roi

I have managed to control my energy with ease thus far and I am confident in my abilities to do so in the future. But thanks for your concern.

I have found VS very useful since it was updated. It makes maintaining Warriors as well as Assassins a lot easier for me and also gives Dwayna's Kiss an extra boost.

I fail to see why I should pick one or the other when both have different uses. Ethereal is a strong, cheap heal with a relatively fast recharge, but it can't be used if I am being attacked. Orison is weaker, but highly spammable. I liked using both.
for god's sake I like using Rejuvantion more than Devotion due to it's shorter casting time and the fact that it results in a much bigger heal 99% of the time.

Thanks for your feedback guys. Ivy posted an opinion that might help make your build useful for everyone. If your going to post a build listen to other peoples feedback. Your build is good for you. There is nothing to say other people will manage their energy just aswell. So Ivy was actually being very helpful. Don't post a build if your going to try and disprove every opinion.

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

30 Jul 2006 at 17:59 - 9

If any of you could remake this build to suit your playing style, what would it look like?

nitrile

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

31 Jul 2006 at 05:12 - 10

To me Blessed Light is a skill that looks very nice on paper, but 'traditionally' my elite slot has always been allocated towards a skill that helps directly (OoB, Healing Light - which I love, but that's not this discussion) or indirectly (WoH) with energy, and not one that expends it so rapidly. So, I've been having trouble working with it fitting into this kind of ideology.

Thus far, I find Blessed Light very nice for medium-light work or perhaps, with some decent healing support from another character at need. When you're under pressure it doesn't come through to ease the situation, and it can be tempting to use a 10 energy skill for only a moderate heal, because it's the only one not recharging. Your build circumvents this by having so many other skills available, but without testing, I'd still suspect problems. When pressure is on it's not hard to imagine WoH healing for ~400 for the same cost as one blessed light's ~100 and that is an enormously significant difference. As long as you're not overloaded though, Blessed Light is an attractive skill for controlling debilitations on your team - it feels nice to use. Of course, it's rare that you can count on a team to make sure it's only medium-light work.

It's not of course the heal but the triad with hex/condition remove that's the attraction. The problem is that asides from health drains the other hexes you would want removed immediately - before damage necessarily is taken, or it's some effect that nullifies a player until the hex ends. And in that situation it's likely there won't also be a condition as well - and what you do have is a 10 cost 6s turnaround hex (or condition) remove. And, in pve mostly it's not that urgent something needs to removed.

But oh wait, you posted a build. I think yours is reasonable considering what I say above, though I'd never be courageous enough to leave home without some energy retrieval skills from the obvious mesmer line - this is my preference, or I guess you could say, safety blanket, but if you're using blessed light immediately on recharge (one of its major advantages as a hex remove is the 5s) you will cause yourself problems. And what I do feel is missing is a large heal with output of ~200+ that heal other/jamei's gaze or woh is capable of - because the third hit from a cantha boss won't care much about moderate heals you might have landed in the meantime. Can we design a build that is energy-efficient using both? I think anet specifically designed the elites to prevent that.