Quick Shot is Underrated
Mera Regila
I've played as a ranger for a very long time, trying out builds from Guildwiki's untested section. Once I got to the ring of fire island chain, i found a cap group that was capping the entire island, and I went with them.
I had already captured Crippling Shot. So I waited for another cap to surface. When finally I found a ranger boss named Maxime Coldstone. Her cap seemed bad, but i capped it anyway, then put it on a PvP ranger to do Random Arenas with.
I found myself attacking faster than swords, axes, and pretty much anything else. With one attack that hit faster than normal every single second, I had a very large dps when combined with my Vampiric PvP Hornbow of Fortitude.
Our team was unstoppable until finally we hit a very experianced and balanced Team Arenas team, their mesmer was using Diversion on my Quick Shot, all I had was my other bow attack, Marauder's Shot. Eventually they whittled us down.
Whenever I mention this build I get "QS is a joke" or "QS SUCKS NOOB"<--- The typical noob response.
I OWNED every one of my friends in scrimmages with this build. They all succeeded with the build I told them about too. Quick Shot is not at all a bad elite. With a Vamp Hornbow max damage you have the highest sustainable DPS a ranger has.
I had already captured Crippling Shot. So I waited for another cap to surface. When finally I found a ranger boss named Maxime Coldstone. Her cap seemed bad, but i capped it anyway, then put it on a PvP ranger to do Random Arenas with.
I found myself attacking faster than swords, axes, and pretty much anything else. With one attack that hit faster than normal every single second, I had a very large dps when combined with my Vampiric PvP Hornbow of Fortitude.
Our team was unstoppable until finally we hit a very experianced and balanced Team Arenas team, their mesmer was using Diversion on my Quick Shot, all I had was my other bow attack, Marauder's Shot. Eventually they whittled us down.
Whenever I mention this build I get "QS is a joke" or "QS SUCKS NOOB"<--- The typical noob response.
I OWNED every one of my friends in scrimmages with this build. They all succeeded with the build I told them about too. Quick Shot is not at all a bad elite. With a Vamp Hornbow max damage you have the highest sustainable DPS a ranger has.
Rikimaru
You can use it with Kindle Arrows + Conjure Flame also.
Munanko Roha
Or with Read the Wind and Favourable Winds, a bit less damage but your arrows are never gonna miss and are pressuring so well!

Dyon Adell
I know, I feel the same way as you. I considered various possibilities before; RtW + FW, using Quick Shot gives you an arrow that flies 8 times faster constantly, and does +16 damage. All you need is to spam QS and you'll definately irritate your victim. Another pressurizing tactic would be to probably use Apply Poison and spam all targets with poison, or keep aiming someone with QS so the poison is always there. Maybe I should switch from my spike build to a QS build at least during pve for try outs.
Quick Shot is definately a great skill.
Quick Shot is definately a great skill.
Mera Regila
Yay. I was expecting the standard noob response all around, "QS SUCKS NOOB" but im actually getting support. QS is a way better skill than everyone thinks it is. I'm getting exp players so far.
*waits for the rush of noobs to invade the topic*
*waits for the rush of noobs to invade the topic*
Poison Ivy
*Makes point before noobs rush in*
It's only underrated by nublets
*Puts on Anti-Flame jacket and flees*
It's only underrated by nublets

*Puts on Anti-Flame jacket and flees*
RobotMULE
I like using Dual Shot, Quick Shot, then Savage Shot, for 3 rapidly fired shots (well, 4 considering Dual Shot).
Works nice with extra dmg from Favorable Winds, Kindle Arrows, Conjure Flame, and a vampiric bow.
Works nice with extra dmg from Favorable Winds, Kindle Arrows, Conjure Flame, and a vampiric bow.
Poison Ivy
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Originally Posted by RobotMULE
I like using Dual Shot, Quick Shot, then Savage Shot, for 3 rapidly fired shots (well, 4 considering Dual Shot).
Works nice with extra dmg from Favorable Winds, Kindle Arrows, Conjure Flame, and a vampiric bow. Only 1 slot for a self heal and self defence?
Works nice with extra dmg from Favorable Winds, Kindle Arrows, Conjure Flame, and a vampiric bow. Only 1 slot for a self heal and self defence?
MAdnRisKy
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Originally Posted by Poison Ivy
Only 1 slot for a self heal and self defence?
he's probably one of those crazy types that oh, I don't know, plays in TA over RA and plays with a monk?
Evilsod
Meh, its the Practiced Stance of the damage dealing world... Useless if you don't use it with the right skills.
twicky_kid
Quick shot allows you to create a lot of pressure with a bow ranger. Honestly that job is better handled by warriors.
Cripple shot + apply poison is always going to be king for a number of reasons. you get to snare the wars target and instantly covered by poison. Spread poison throughout an entire team for more added pressure.
Crip shot rangers also carry blackout.
Quick shot is good in TA/RA because you only need to take a lot of pressure and not utility in those environments. GvG/HA you will see other types of rangers being ran.
Cripple shot + apply poison is always going to be king for a number of reasons. you get to snare the wars target and instantly covered by poison. Spread poison throughout an entire team for more added pressure.
Crip shot rangers also carry blackout.
Quick shot is good in TA/RA because you only need to take a lot of pressure and not utility in those environments. GvG/HA you will see other types of rangers being ran.
Mera Regila
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Originally Posted by twicky_kid
Quick shot allows you to create a lot of pressure with a bow ranger. Honestly that job is better handled by warriors.
Cripple shot + apply poison is always going to be king for a number of reasons. you get to snare the wars target and instantly covered by poison. Spread poison throughout an entire team for more added pressure.
Crip shot rangers also carry blackout.
Quick shot is good in TA/RA because you only need to take a lot of pressure and not utility in those environments. GvG/HA you will see other types of rangers being ran. Um... Cripshot Rangers are extremely common in high ranked GvG. Quick Shot is effectively the best DPS skill a Ranger has. Most of the time however, Rangers aren't called upon for DPS, so Warriors take the place of this build. It's not popluar, but it is extremely effective, able to take down monks and casters with great ease and rangers and warriors as well.
Cripple shot + apply poison is always going to be king for a number of reasons. you get to snare the wars target and instantly covered by poison. Spread poison throughout an entire team for more added pressure.
Crip shot rangers also carry blackout.
Quick shot is good in TA/RA because you only need to take a lot of pressure and not utility in those environments. GvG/HA you will see other types of rangers being ran. Um... Cripshot Rangers are extremely common in high ranked GvG. Quick Shot is effectively the best DPS skill a Ranger has. Most of the time however, Rangers aren't called upon for DPS, so Warriors take the place of this build. It's not popluar, but it is extremely effective, able to take down monks and casters with great ease and rangers and warriors as well.
Poison Ivy
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Originally Posted by MAdnRisKy
he's probably one of those crazy types that oh, I don't know, plays in TA over RA and plays with a monk?
You must be one of those crazy types that oh, I don't know, never played with a monk in TA?
Lowly Peasant
QS was so much fun before they fixed it though. Uzi ranger ftw.
BoondockSaint
Well this is an untested build on the wiki.
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/R/any_Quick_Needler
I've run this build in HOH and RA only I switch with a vamp mod because 2 energy even for this rapid build is not that bad. Other varities was that my friend changed to a reclusive bow and then used apply posion. Ive always filled the optional slot with pin down to avoid getting raped by touchers and warriors. From what I've seen, an all around powerful build but the lack of self heal and weakness to Mesmers leads me to run other builds, yet I can see this becomming a new type of spike, with some modifications for team play ofcourse.
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/R/any_Quick_Needler
I've run this build in HOH and RA only I switch with a vamp mod because 2 energy even for this rapid build is not that bad. Other varities was that my friend changed to a reclusive bow and then used apply posion. Ive always filled the optional slot with pin down to avoid getting raped by touchers and warriors. From what I've seen, an all around powerful build but the lack of self heal and weakness to Mesmers leads me to run other builds, yet I can see this becomming a new type of spike, with some modifications for team play ofcourse.
ZennZero
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Originally Posted by Lowly Peasant
QS was so much fun before they fixed it though. Uzi ranger ftw.
Oh yes. You could fire almost as fast as you could click. My fiance would complain because all she could hear was clickclickclickclickclickclickclickclick while she was trying to sleep.
TheRanger
Quickshot is awesome. Dual-Quick-Salvage shot with Kindle can deal around 40% of a casters health in around 2 seconds.
Here's a build I use in AB, I've actually killed a mage in one spike with a height advange.
12 Mark
11 Wild
14 Exp
Zealous Hornbow
R/W
Dual Shot
Quick Shot
Salvage Shot
Kindle Arrows
Frenzy
Rush
"Watch Yourself!" or Whirling Defense
Farvorable Winds
Here's a build I use in AB, I've actually killed a mage in one spike with a height advange.

12 Mark
11 Wild
14 Exp
Zealous Hornbow
R/W
Dual Shot
Quick Shot
Salvage Shot
Kindle Arrows
Frenzy
Rush
"Watch Yourself!" or Whirling Defense
Farvorable Winds
Dyon Adell
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Originally Posted by Mera Regila
Um... Cripshot Rangers are extremely common in high ranked GvG. Quick Shot is effectively the best DPS skill a Ranger has. Most of the time however, Rangers aren't called upon for DPS, so Warriors take the place of this build. It's not popluar, but it is extremely effective, able to take down monks and casters with great ease and rangers and warriors as well.
Monks, I don't think so. Nothing takes a monk, elementalist or assasin down faster than my spike combo. I went to test out the needler build yesterday, and I found this build was the most anti-warrior I ever got. I actually managed to kill running warriors with Dual -> QS -> QS -> QS -> Needle all the way. Needling Shot does a constant 31 damage every shot and recharges instantly if you're hunting down a dying warrior.
When faced with touchers or boon prots, the problem is much harder though.
Despite QS being a fantastic elite, I enjoy Punishing Shot for the quickness of unleashing as well as the added interrupt.
When faced with touchers or boon prots, the problem is much harder though.
Despite QS being a fantastic elite, I enjoy Punishing Shot for the quickness of unleashing as well as the added interrupt.
SnipiousMax
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Originally Posted by Dyon Adell
When faced with touchers or boon prots, the problem is much harder though.
Ya, you need support in most cases to take down a Boon Prot, and you really really need a snare for a touch ranger, not something you normally take on a QS build.
NJudson
I don't play PvP so is it primarily only good for PvP or does it work great in PvE as well? I haven't capped this skill yet.
TwinRaven
I've been playing with a variation of this build in Arborstone...I found that with my R/N, Gaze of Contepmt removes all enchantments from foe with health above 50%...startles the boons and with a Savage Shot and needle-needle-needle....they go down faster than you might think.
TwinRaven
Gaze of Contempt when playing necro secondary, is a great way to open the door to taking down the boons...removes all enchantments if their health is above 50% (which it usually is)...remove enchantments, interrupt them and needle-needle-needle....
XvArchonvX
Personally I think after playing a R/P that QS really is going to be inferior in terms of rapid fire high damage builds. I won't go so far as to say that the skill should be completely discredited, but I have always prefered a crippleshot + poison build.
Sha Noran
The key is understanding that in a PvP environment, additional forms of support are usually better than just damage. This is why a Cripshot is good, because rather than just hitting 1 as fast as you can, you're also applying pressuring conditions to the other team that, in the long run, will provide a lot more benefit than 1111111111111111111111111111111111111111.
It's also important to recognize that the legitimacy of a build stems from where you're using it. In AB, Quickshot is likely to own the grand majority of people you encounter with it. Why? They have no Monk, most likely, and their self heal is probably something so poor that you can kill them with any semi-decent build.
When you get to the more advanced levels of PvP, however, as I said, the key is support, not just damage. This is why Crip, Punishing, and Oath Shot see a good deal more play.
As far as PvE, Quick Shot was far more usable before they fixed it, whereas before you could fire it several times in the time it now takes for you to fire it once.
It's also important to recognize that the legitimacy of a build stems from where you're using it. In AB, Quickshot is likely to own the grand majority of people you encounter with it. Why? They have no Monk, most likely, and their self heal is probably something so poor that you can kill them with any semi-decent build.
When you get to the more advanced levels of PvP, however, as I said, the key is support, not just damage. This is why Crip, Punishing, and Oath Shot see a good deal more play.
As far as PvE, Quick Shot was far more usable before they fixed it, whereas before you could fire it several times in the time it now takes for you to fire it once.
some guy
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Originally Posted by BoondockSaint
some guy
BTW i just tried the build on suggested by guild wiki, it rocked.
picked off tanks in arround 5-10 seconds
picked off tanks in arround 5-10 seconds
TadaceAce
I can't believe nobody suggested the old trick of using QZ with quickshot, you still get uzi ranger, its like needling shot but faster, more damage, but will cost you 30% more energy.
Adria Soulseeker
You cannot sustain your energy level for long spamming QS with QZ applied, even with a zealous bow.
Xaero Gouki Kriegor
imo, i think quick shot would be nice if complemented with concussion shot before, i mean of course you can use a shortbow and keep interupting spells while they are dazed, but if you were wanting to use flatbow or longbow for height or rang while they are dazed, you could use quick shot, but i dunno, read the wind might be best
Yakumo
I like using Kindle Arrows... Sundering Attack, Quick Shot, Savage Shot... Sundering Attack, Quick Shot, Distracting Shot...
I prefer Sundering/Penetrating Attack over Dual Shot for the quicker recharge. Although, it can be quite an energy drain, so I tend not to repeat the chains too often.
I prefer Sundering/Penetrating Attack over Dual Shot for the quicker recharge. Although, it can be quite an energy drain, so I tend not to repeat the chains too often.
Mera Regila
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Originally Posted by Xaero Gouki Kriegor
imo, i think quick shot would be nice if complemented with concussion shot before, i mean of course you can use a shortbow and keep interupting spells while they are dazed, but if you were wanting to use flatbow or longbow for height or rang while they are dazed, you could use quick shot, but i dunno, read the wind might be best
Agreed, though a friend of mine and me have been arguing about weather an interruptor should use a Recurve or Short Bow. Recurves have the lowest Arc in the game, so they'll reach the target faster, but shortbows have quicker reload time, meaning arrows come OUT of the bow faster. I don't know which bow would be more effective for a build of the type you describe.
Mera Regila
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Originally Posted by Adria Soulseeker
You cannot sustain your energy level for long spamming QS with QZ applied, even with a zealous bow.
The Uzi Ranger is build for maximum DPS over a short time to cause some damage to targets by taking a shot every 0.7 seconds, it's a very effective combo Quickening Zephyr and Quick Shot. However I believe Quick Shot on its own is more sustainable than QZ with Quick Shot, therefore making it more effective.
Effigy
I may be wrong, but I was under the impress that QS + QZ no longer worked because a skill's recharge time can no longer be reduced to less than 1 second, if it has one.
Amy Awien
I think you are correct Effigy, there used to be a trick where recharge became 0 seconds, but it was fixed.
QS has a 1 second activation and a 1 second recharge, I don't think you can spam arrows faster with it then with a regular flat- or shortbow. It works nice though when combined with other bowattacks.
QS has a 1 second activation and a 1 second recharge, I don't think you can spam arrows faster with it then with a regular flat- or shortbow. It works nice though when combined with other bowattacks.
Skyy Forn
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Originally Posted by Mera Regila
Agreed, though a friend of mine and me have been arguing about weather an interruptor should use a Recurve or Short Bow. Recurves have the lowest Arc in the game, so they'll reach the target faster, but shortbows have quicker reload time, meaning arrows come OUT of the bow faster. I don't know which bow would be more effective for a build of the type you describe.
Reload times are irrelavent for interupts because they fire independant of when your next auto-attack would occur. The draw time for savage/distrcting/punishing shot is the same for all bows, and the arrow leaves the bow 0.5s after you press the key, assuming you press it when you aren't in the middle of another action.
LagunaCid
Qs + Ns + Ss = Sex
Mera Regila
I'm glad one of my threads actually caught on. Please feel free to continue debating about or finding new uses for the elite Quick Shot, the most underrated ranger elite there is!
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by Mera Regila
I'm glad one of my threads actually caught on. Please feel free to continue debating about or finding new uses for the elite Quick Shot, the most underrated ranger elite there is!
Archers Signet is way more underrated then this.
Mera Regila
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
Archers Signet is way more underrated then this.
Quite true. I seem to have forgotten that elite.
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Archer's Signet+Concussion Shot FTW
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Archer's Signet+Concussion Shot FTW
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SnipiousMax
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
Archers Signet is way more underrated then this.
I think it's rated exactly as it should be!
