How can I kill Amadis, Wind of....oh, he's dead...

Cebe

Cebe

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Inverness, Scotland

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I decided to try to get Amadis' Air staff off Amadis, Wind of the Sea in Silent Surf. Unfortunately, the little git does not stay alive very long.... He insists on going in to kill the Rockhide Dragons and then the totally PWN him! To get to him I start at Seafarer's Rest and fight a few Carp/Scuttle Fish etc..., but by the time I can get to him he's invariably dead! I don't even get the chance to give him a quick Lightening Orb to the chest!

Can anyone give me any advice on how to maybe get to him any quicker... Also, how many henchies (if any) should I take? My brother usually goes with me as a Ritualist and I use Air Magic 95% of the time... Am I correct in assuming that the less henchies you take the more likely he is to give up his green staff? The problem then is, I can't get to him quick enough!! I really want his staff so can anyone give me any tips??

Doug Clifton

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

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Well bosses almost never drop their greens when you are with hench, and they will only drop their weapon if they are weilding it at the time

Ira Blinks

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

why bother... buy (or farm) teh brimstone. Ele staves from SF pwn Canthan staves hands down. When I saw people selling Koosun staff for 60k I went like "WHAT!?! Is someone really stupid enough to buy it for more than 2-3k?". So really unless you planning on selling it to noobs, dont bother. In case you do wanna farm it for sale, you'll have to come up with solo build (or at least no henchies), because otherwise it will be a huge waste of time and nerves.

Cebe

Cebe

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Yeah, huge waste of nerves is about right! So you say he will hardly ever drop it if I'm with henchies (assuming he's even wielding it)?? Does that also count for human players. I really could do with a monk or some such, and my brother...is a monk, so if it were just him and me, would that work?

@Ira, no, I don't want to sell it, I want it for me I assume SF is a Tyrian-related place? In which case, although I have prophecies (I bought it after Factions) I don't like it much and only go over there if there's something I want! Also, I wouldn't buy Amadis' air staff....because, yes, anything over 5k is a total rip off! That's why I'm trying to get it myself

It just makes it all the more harder since he almost always dies before I can pummel him with anything myself...he's such a weakling!

Lady Ana Stacia

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I have to disagree with the statement that bosses won't drop greens with hench. I have successfully farmed 15 greens with full hench teams. So that really shoots that theory in my eyes. I had 4 greens in one day that I wasn't even trying for just from playing the map.

:-)

beanerman_99

beanerman_99

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

In the clouds

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Ana Stacia
I have to disagree with the statement that bosses won't drop greens with hench. I have successfully farmed 15 greens with full hench teams. So that really shoots that theory in my eyes. I had 4 greens in one day that I wasn't even trying for just from playing the map.

:-) Agreed. It IS possible to get greens with henchmen...it just may take a while and you need a bit of luck on your side.

As I understand it, Henchmen are considered the same as real players when they are in your party. That means they get a certain percentage of the drops too. Problem is, the drops they get are invisible to you and me. So you may fight a boss and they do drop their green, BUT if that drops rolls to a henchmen, you will not see it or even know that it dropped.

So, if you can, try to limit the number of henchmen you take with you when you are looking for greens. The fewer there are, the more drops YOU will get and the better the chance YOU will get the Green. This can be a big challenge if you are used to using a full team of henchmen. I know that Factions is more difficult for me to try to get greens, the ones I have got have been with a full team of henchs and pure luck. Unless the boss is easy to get to, it may be in your best interest to buy the green you want from another player.

As for the particular boss you are asking about, I have no idea, I have the same problem of him dying before I can attack him too.

Cebe

Cebe

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ok thanks...It's kinda hard without taking at least a monk hench and something else to deal damage. Maybe I'll do that dragon egg collecting quest, which I haven't done yet, and inadvertently stray by past Amadis and kill him, without intentionally wanting to get a green off him!

The biggest problem is, when I approach him from Seafarers Rest, because of the 'land' that's in the way, by the time I get to him he's got himself killed - stupid fool.

Shyft the Pyro

Shyft the Pyro

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Join Date: Sep 2005

NYC, USA

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My advice is this: go through the island instead of around it. Amandis should aggro something at the north tip of the island, at the west tip and (if he survives) at the south tip. I don't remember precisely what, if anything, he aggroes at the north tip, but he should snag on the Afflicted and the Leviathan bits at the west tip. Those two mobs should whittle his "party" pretty low but in my experience not kill him. Then, if he happens to get to the south tip at the most inopportune moment, he will aggro the usual Jade Sea mobs of Creeping Carps and Irukanji. One of these won't kill him if he's still with some "henchies," but stopping to fight Creeping Carps usually means that more will wander in and overwhelm him.

What I suggest is catching Amandis at the west tip of the island, near Zenos (The Zenos Squad quest) and Albax (If It Wasn't For Bad Luck quest) and the resurrection shrine. You'd have to go through two separate groups of Afflicted and one Afflicted boss mob (Assassin's Construct), but you shouldn't have a problem catching up to Amandis with a full hench party. If you luck out, Amandis will still be on the west tip of the island fighting either the Afflicted or the Leviathans when you approach. If you don't, he will have avoided at least one of the two mobs, which means he'd have more "henchies" to take care of any Creeping Carp/Irukanji mobs he would aggro. In either case, you would be in the perfect location to track Amandis since he only goes around the island, and you would easily be able to catch him on the second lap by going back to the bridge (assuming he survives for the second lap, which I've seen happen a few times).

Not to mention you could also get some Kaolin Daggers

Ira Blinks

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

Celestial Beaver
goto War Camp (Tyria -> Southern Shiverpeaks) and ask for Runar Brimstone staff. See the Price Check forum for pricing on it.

Cebe

Cebe

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Originally Posted by Ira Blinks
Celestial Beaver
goto War Camp (Tyria -> Southern Shiverpeaks) and ask for Runar Brimstone staff. See the Price Check forum for pricing on it. I don't understand what this means... Are you suggesting I buy a staff? and is this staff supposed to be the same as Amadis'? I didn't actually want to buy one, mainly because it's really difficult trying to save up 60k for my Canthan 15k armor, let alone another 60k for a staff, however good it is...I was hoping to be able to get it for free off Amadis some day...

Please clarify...

vapor311

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Amadi's will be travelling north as soon as you exit Seafarer's Rest into the Silent Surf. It should be very easy for you to intercept him before he makes contact with the group of Rockhides. Leave Seafarer's Rest and move as fast as you can to the gap under the bridge in the island. You should catch him fairly easily. If you find that he is escaping you, trying putting Windborne speed on yourself to catch his aggro, then pull him back away from the Rockhides. Good luck!

Cebe

Cebe

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There's still a load of bad things if you go under the bridge as well, and if I take henchies my chances of obtaining said green item would be lowered. I do have windborne speed but even if I got to him, what's to say it little outcast buddies wouldn't just own me before I could kill him?

extra bacon

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Join Date: Sep 2005

Sydney, Australia

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver
I didn't actually want to buy one, mainly because it's really difficult trying to save up 60k for my Canthan 15k armor, let alone another 60k for a staff, however good it is... *cough* there are easy ways of making money but since this site allows under-18 viewers, pm me *cough*

Cebe

Cebe

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I have the oddest feeling someone is stalking me...

Dien

Dien

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well mee and my guildie farmed him once for the staff and we killed him like 30 times and got only 1 staff..... so drop rate is no that great.

Cebe

Cebe

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Originally Posted by Dien
well mee and my guildie farmed him once for the staff and we killed him like 30 times and got only 1 staff..... so drop rate is no that great. Would you care to elaborate a little on which way you approached him from? Did you take henchies?

CHUIU

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Join Date: Mar 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ira Blinks
why bother... buy (or farm) teh brimstone. Ele staves from SF pwn Canthan staves hands down. When I saw people selling Koosun staff for 60k I went like "WHAT!?! Is someone really stupid enough to buy it for more than 2-3k?". So really unless you planning on selling it to noobs, dont bother. In case you do wanna farm it for sale, you'll have to come up with solo build (or at least no henchies), because otherwise it will be a huge waste of time and nerves. What makes you think that all staves have one singular use? I can see the benefits of a +60 hp staff over that of a +5 energy 20% enchanting staff in a lot of places of the game (aside from the fact ele's don't need 5 additional energy and to extend their attunements when they already last a long time).

vapor311

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver
There's still a load of bad things if you go under the bridge as well, and if I take henchies my chances of obtaining said green item would be lowered. I do have windborne speed but even if I got to him, what's to say it little outcast buddies wouldn't just own me before I could kill him? Well the idea is to catch him before he engages the Rockhide mob and gets slaughtered. My suggestion would be to wand him and draw him and his Outcast buddies back to your henchmen or other players.
So basically you would Windborne yourself once you leave Seafarers. Run out and wand one of Amadis's group. Backpedal until the rest of your group catches up to assist. Yes, going with henchmen will lower your chances of getting the drop but it's a quick run so you can keep trying as often as you can stand. It should take about 5 minutes total.

Ira Blinks

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by CHUIU
What makes you think that all staves have one singular use? I can see the benefits of a +60 hp staff over that of a +5 energy 20% enchanting staff in a lot of places of the game (aside from the fact ele's don't need 5 additional energy and to extend their attunements when they already last a long time). staves are what they made for, i.e. enchant weilder with extra powers for his spells.
+hp does not improve your abilities in any way. It adds some survivability, but... due to overall low survivability of eles +60hp means absolutely nothing, since if you taking damage you'll get healed or die anyway.

If you go with geo/water tank, then once again +hp is useless - you want 20% enchant duration and either armor or energy bonus here.
If you do 55 build... no comments here.
If you do PBAoE - go with +5 sword and shield or at least +5 energy/armor staff.
And if you got with Air magic which does neither of the above but pure spiking/flashbot/winborne speed then you definately want +5 energy +20% enchant staff.

So what does extra 60 hp offers you? Well, you probably can take one extra hit from average lvl28 NPC warrior or human player... wow that makes so much difference...

Ira Blinks

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver
I don't understand what this means... Are you suggesting I buy a staff? and is this staff supposed to be the same as Amadis'? I didn't actually want to buy one, mainly because it's really difficult trying to save up 60k for my Canthan 15k armor, let alone another 60k for a staff, however good it is...I was hoping to be able to get it for free off Amadis some day...

Please clarify... actually it is 5-10k according to price check forum, but whatever you like...

Commander Ryker

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Join Date: Jun 2005

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Originally Posted by beanerman_99
Agreed. It IS possible to get greens with henchmen...it just may take a while and you need a bit of luck on your side. I have absolutely no luck at all, well there's all that bad luck, but that's a whole other story. Anyway, there was a time or two that I was out doing quests with full hench team and have gotten greens. It was amazing. Since then, my luck went back to bad. <sigh> Oh well, I'll always have the memory of that time. lol

Cebe

Cebe

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ira Blinks
So what does extra 60 hp offers you? Well, you probably can take one extra hit from average lvl28 NPC warrior or human player... wow that makes so much difference...
As much as I value all the help people are giving me I really don't appreciate people telling me which staff I should have. The problem is, I want Amadis' staff. I don't care if it let's me last only 1 hit longer from a lvl 28 npc, there have been loads of occaisons when I'd thought "If I'd just have had that extra bit more health I could have run away further and maybe lived". I don't care if there is a better one I should have. Fact of the matter is...I want Amadis', and I will get it, one day. It's not that I don't want a green air staff other than Amadis', but I want his the most.

Quote: Originally Posted by Ira Blinks
actually it is 5-10k according to price check forum, but whatever you like... oh ok, that's not too bad, although I just bought myself 15k Canthan armor tonight so now I have the vast sum of....seven gold left!! It takes me forever to save up money so I figured it would be quicker to try to get it myself. I went with the figure of 60k purely because whenever I've seen anyone selling green weapons...it's always been vastly expensive!

Ira Blinks

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

Celestial Beaver
actually i was talking to CHUIU explaining him why +60hp staves have no use. You have chosen to take it onto your account and think of it as I am making you do something. All I can answer is: jeesh, do whatever you want, why do I care...

nelifaroma

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Join Date: Dec 2005

Hey, Ive been trying to get that staff as well, Ive been observing at Amadis for quite a long time and I dont have the problem of him dying but rather the problem of him owning me lol.

When going out silent surf, I catched up with him to the right and aggro everything in the area which include outcast, oni, those turtle things, and those jellyfish looking things.

then i run away or die and look at them fight.

once he is weakened, I go in for the kill.

pros about this method: dont need to bring any hench (more chance of drop)
cons about this method: either have 15% dp or he will still own u 1v1

I dunno, any better ways?

TheLordOfBlah

TheLordOfBlah

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

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Greens drop as often with a full party of henchmen as with a party of humans, it just doesnt show you the drops reserved for henchies. Anyone who tells you otherwise is wrong.

Cebe

Cebe

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WOO HOO...I have the staff...Finally!

Since someone's done me the favour of bumping this thread I figured I would just let people know!

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Originally Posted by nelifaroma
I dunno, any better ways? My strategy in the end was to start from Seafarer's Rest.
In the party was me (ele), my brother (monk), talon silverwing and sister tai. (I also took the Protection Henchman instead of my brother's monk when he left to do something else and it still worked fine)

Leave Seafarer's rest into Silent Surf...go through the "hole in the wall" and hug the right hand wall, and walk quick up past the resurrection shrine to the other hole in the other wall. Usually you will see Amadis run through this hole but sometimes he already has...also this method usually allows you to dodge the "on-land sea creatures" most of the time. Wander through the second hole and Amadis will usually have had the smart idea to aggro some Rockhyde Dragons, but they never usually attack him first...While he's busy fighting them...attack him. 2 monks, a tank and a damage dealer works just fine. I dealt him most of the damage and used Lightening Hammer, Lightening Orb, Lightening Strike, Enervating Charge, Chain Lightening. I also used Elemental Attunement, Air Attunement and Aura of Restoration. You can pretty much just pound him continuously due to the dual attunements.

It took about 25 attempts for me to get his staff but it was worth it!

As soon as he died every time I just went straight back to Seafarer's Rest and started again. If I aggroed any "on-land sea creatures" at the beginning I would just restart...like I say, usually you can get past them before they get aggroed...Sister Tai is usually the one to do the aggroing!

Hope that helped...Good Luck.