night fall, all about it and the dervish...

zigzag

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

R/W

ok, i have been reading some forums about nightfall, like 'the big question is nightfall worth buying'

question #1 is nightfall worth buying


-yes of course its new area new skills etc.. dervish and paragon are missing some skills and lots of elites, and most of the skills will be changed around, and even maby when this happeds ( witch should be about on the next preveiw event wtch is usally not far from rease date) they may come out new skills for other professions cause ass's and rit are short allredy.

second question, well not really a question but really a statement that is true and not from those dervish people who unlock an avatar and think the pwn...
dervish suck, seriouly what makes them so good,, pve they will be pwn AOE and more AOE, but here we are talking about PVP. they are not to good the have slow dam output the can do damage but die very very fast and a war has better dam output then a derv also dervish attck so slow the enchantment removal is cool and all but to much work for a cripple and 100 damage that can also hit 20 (remeber kids 9-41 are the syths)

caps time... THE RESON YOU THINK YOUR GOOD IS BECAUSE UR PLAYING DERVER... VS IN ra 4V4 DERVISH AND YOU ARE KILLING THEM, this doesnt make you good it means that you both are so terrible but you have spent 1-3k faction and unlocked other skills to beat all the newb predmades that are out today


think about it , oh im good i just killed a boon prot 1v1, well if its a good boon prot , then GJ to you but,, oh look EW put a perfect boon prot in pre mades

the boon prot is like wow it has a shiny gold outline around that skill.. i dont like it.
and your like look at me i hit a 56 and a 89 in 5 secs with my syth and hit the guy beside him.

DERVISH HAVE LOW DAMAGE OUT PUT PER SECOND

just a war kills a derv fast, the derv has betetr healing but really if you want to take its easy to stance and ripost away but look at this...
go to the dummies and c what can kill all the dummies with out 1 popping up
a derv or a tigers fury war/ thumper OR EVEN.. hate to say it but a Touch ranger.

paragon have low damage out put but have constant damage the isnt slow and that you have to reapple an enchnt every 8 secs,, also paragons charts are very helpfull ITS THE ONLY ONE OUT OF DERV AND PARA THAT WILL EVER TAKE PLACE IN A GVG( well as now, new skills are comming out for them)

GW is making a mistake with PVP now, and pve as i have heard is going to diff then it had in part 1 and part 2


dervish avatars look cool and arnt bad but still bath and lyssa are the only help full one grenths allright but only when mass enchat removal is needed in gvg mostly, and melandru is pretically equall to a W\Mo with healing breeze orison of healing and mending

if GW does not fix these prof or change the game massivly by changing the other profs or the game, i think there might be a problem
theres a new game comming out each 6 mounths well that 10$ a month, a bit more of that you can play a pay to play game that surly promises more and doesnt dissapoint as mutch as GW have so farim (im CAN for prices)

im sad to say im dissapointed and lots of people are like .. meh back to my war/ranger/ele/mes etc...

jmj102

jmj102

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

W/Mo

Woah, woah, first of all spell check your posts please. Also dervs have low dmg outputs? I'm doing almost 80 dmg per couple of secs using the premade, if anything they are over powered.

MalVeauX

MalVeauX

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

I like a good rant myself, but yours is pretty unfounded I find.

Why don't you compare true DPS values of a Scythe to a Hammer Warrior.
Prove what you say is correct and it's not just what you read or heard in the game listening to wankers whining about themselves not earning their medalions.

I'm not going to say that the Dervish is any better than any character, nor worse than any others. They've got a lot of things going for them and are pretty balanced out in terms of what they can do.

You're looking at a character inside a bubble, without thinking of how it interacts with 2nd professions and different weapon types.

Or maybe you expected the Dervish to replace a Warrior? Seems to me that you're just comparing apples and oranges and calling one obsolete because the other already existed and works. Three cheers for attempting to adapt and change to the environment.

Malchior Devenholm

Malchior Devenholm

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Dragon Arena!!!

Pshycho Ninjas [oGod] | Vent Rage [vR] | Zealots of Shiverpeak [ZoS]

Heh, i almost couldn't read that rant it was so bad...

Also-just about every point in that rant is wrong in some fashion, so i don't need to say a word

SigurdTheBalmung

SigurdTheBalmung

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

NW Arkansas

Players And Their Handbooks

E/Mo

I must say I didn't understand half of that or more. I think this was about the only thing that made sense...
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DERVISH HAVE LOW DAMAGE OUT PUT PER SECOND
...and I'm not even sure where the OP is getting this info.

Please remember, grammar is your friend and maybe next time you'll make some sense!

unmatchedfury

unmatchedfury

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Cookie Cutter [FTW]

not onyl that but if you play aroudn with earth prayers you can hit for 92 dmg 3 times.. + healing and armor and whatnot. dervrish is really much more flexible than the premades that relay in avitar to be of any use

Don Zardeone

Don Zardeone

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

If what the op says is correct then euh...

Think about it, assassin is worthless in PvE

PvE has 7 profession right now, not 8. Give me a single good reason to bring an assassin in PvE and eh, I'll tell you gj.

So what if PvP gets 1 worthless prof too eh?

Sleep is for the week the weeeeek

floppinghog

floppinghog

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

pit of brimstone

Squad Six Six Six [ssss]

A/Me

new classes were never made to replace the core classes, remember that in the back of your mind. they are meant to mix it up, add something new in a different way, bring new ideas to the table.

cheers to scythe weilders swinging at 3 trapers at once. oh what fun.

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by floppinghog
cheers to scythe weilders swinging at 3 trapers at once. oh what fun.
oh wow, that would actually be a cool sight to see^^, now let's talk about ViM trappers^^ *drools*

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PvE has 7 profession right now, not 8. Give me a single good reason to bring an assassin in PvE and eh, I'll tell you gj.
noone is going to successfully convince you to play one without it backfiring in their faces, so if you dont know how to play one, dont bother... I'll pick the sinners that fit in depending on where i am in the game.

Quote:
Also-just about every point in that rant is wrong in some fashion, so i don't need to say a word
You can use this statement in any rant thread. And then you can label this quote the cookie cutter for anti-ranting... it's pretty useful, and there are many anti-ranting quotes out there too^^

Jeff Highwind

Jeff Highwind

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Grenth's Rejects [GR]

R/Mo

Since everyone else is poking fun at this, I will say the first post broke a blood vessel in my eye.

240 damage in 2 seconds is hardly low damage output IMO. Course this is max potential with skills. I will admit though, Dervish at best could be a PvE evil farmer or a secondary class.

dreamhunk

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

:P

E/Me

I will have to agree with the opp devish and pargon on release will be nerfed and maybe pve useless!

How meny rt and asassins do you see in the game? How meny in in pve and hoa.You don't see alot. Right now devish seems and pargon classies are cool. However there are pvp players already calling for nerfs and unbalance. They are going to fix the balance but only for the sake of pvp.

If this is the case why even make new classies? I my self love the pargon class and devesh. heck i even love asassin class. pve should be a game you enjoy and have fun. Getting into a group playing asassin class is hard already.

So I question where these classies going to work in pve.

the true test would be when classies are done and played in pve. However so far they are very cool.

TadaceAce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

How old are you like six? If you think dervishes are weak you havn't unlocked enough... This is coming from a freakin elitist like me. Did you happen to see the team of 8 D/Mo that won and held halls like 3 times?

Paragons eh, stunning strike is only thing that I think they have thats good. They are like rits, they have their place, but 99% of the time, they are just bad healers or bad damage dealers.

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Posts that completely slaughter the english language aren't allowed on this forum. When you can take the time to type properly, and maybe run a spell check, you can repost this. But this isn't some chat room, theres no reason you can't spell out a full four letter word. UR does not equal your or you're.

Vilaptca