racism double folds

fiery

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

I don't know if it's just me but since this Nightfall Event more racist names appear more. Such as the racial slurr for blacks, "RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO,niga" etc people finding ways to go against the name system. Why do people do this, shits and giggles cause it's just immaturity and just grow up. Plus some reply with "cause im black you fool", than I say why degrade yourself even more. Than some are wiggers or white people acting black,just wow. I mean this is just sad, and I PM each one "how old are you and they say 11-30 years of age. Than I reply with screenshot and sent to a.net, gg.

Anyone else seeing an uprise in racial names?

Empex

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Nope, not seeing it.

Ecksor

Ecksor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

kkthnxbai

Knights And Heroes [Beer]

How about you don't report them, and just let them do what they want? I doubt that it is ruining your gameplay experience, so just let it be. It is their personal opinions anyways.

TalonTheCat

TalonTheCat

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

USA

Black Cat Guild

Mo/

Do I think it is increasing? No. Unfortunately there are always ignorant people and children whose parents don't teach them properly.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ecksor
How about you don't report them, and just let them do what they want? I doubt that it is ruining your gameplay experience, so just let it be. It is their personal opinions anyways.
Um...If I were black it would CERTAINLY ruin my gameplay experience if I have to coexist with idiots that have nothing better to do than throw obvious slurs at my heritage...

This has always been a problem in Great Temple and Zaishen Challenge (Great Temple is home to all the lowest and low lifeforms in this game...All Wanting to Cyber, All Pedophiles, All Racists, All the worst) but the fact that Elonian characters are all dark skinned has only promoted their immaturity.

Xenrath

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ecksor
How about you don't report them, and just let them do what they want? I doubt that it is ruining your gameplay experience, so just let it be. It is their personal opinions anyways.
Wow, just.. breathtakingly dismissive....


Right then
Quote:
Originally Posted by http://www.guildwars.com/support/legal/rulesofconduct.php
3. You may not use sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive language.
The OP is well within the rules of the game to report that kind of offensive stuff.

lg5000

lg5000

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

Ok, so.. if you were black, you'd have a problem with people using racial slurs.. I guess I'm lucky then?

I've gone through racism, not because I'm black, because I'm german and don't live in that country anymore. Turns out, all the country I was living in knew about germany was.. WWII.

Did it offend me? Sure. Did I do something about it? Yeah, I got used to it and actually learned about my heritage.

These days, and especially in a game, I have no problem with what people call their characters, I DONT have to play with them, or even look at their name after all. And hey, if the whole 'black' thing REALLY offends you, reporting should help.

btw, the name thing isn't so much different than the warrior grinding behind the female characters, both are offensive to someone.. and yet.. we make a big fuss when a black person gets offended.

.... Is chapter 4 going to include jewish people so we can offend them next?

samifly

samifly

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Girl Power [GP]

Mo/Me

I've seen some of the names the OP is talking about...

Caleb

Caleb

Nil nisi malis terrori.

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ecksor
How about you don't report them, and just let them do what they want? I doubt that it is ruining your gameplay experience, so just let it be. It is their personal opinions anyways.
There is nothing wrong with reporting names that are offensive and don't belong in the game.

It is satisfying to check the next day and see the "no such player exists" message.

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

Wow, people just can't get over the fact that other people have skin that looks different from theirs. It's simple evolution and adaptation. People living in areas with more sun exposure (i.e. a desert) for millenia, will develop darker skin. And the just the oposite will happen when hidden from the sun most of the time (i.e. further north and a forest).

People can be so ignorant. All humans have been traced to have originated from Africa. So people are just being complete fools when they're racist.

I was taught in school about african, chinese, native amerian, and of course european culture. I don't see any reason that any race should be singled out.

I guess it's just human nature that anything that looks or acts differently MUST be bad. I mean, come on, they aren't like anyone else, so something MUST make them bad. And it sure is easy to think that way, espesially when everyone else around you is doing it.

So yea, people that just can't accept others for being different (in a good way), are just not fit for society.

Mavrik

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

thats one of my reasons for staying away from the pvp areas. Last time I was there at the isle of the nameless... lots of people were name calling in very uncalled for ways. It could have something to do with the fact that it was also during a preview event and lots of ppl were logged in for free for the weekend.

because of that it would be hard to ban those who were just on to play the weekend only.

I hate people who can't accept people because of the colour of their skin. Or find it entertaining to use skin colour to insult others.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ecksor
How about you don't report them, and just let them do what they want? I doubt that it is ruining your gameplay experience, so just let it be. It is their personal opinions anyways.
my personal opinion of you would get me banned so i will only say if somebody has a name obviously made to be offensive i will happily submit it for Anet to ban or not.

just because you will put up with/approve of anything does not mean others are not willing to report the obvious i am being offensive because i think i can get away with it

it may not ruin my gameplay but you should have at least a small amount of consideration of others

fiery

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

I originally made this thread to open up those eyes who can't understand racial names offends those in game and in real life. That it's immature and you need to grow up. Racism needs to die and not be uplifted through more generations. To those saying "it's just a game, let me have my fun", it's not a game when you offend those it goes against. You put it on yourself when you make the name, but why? It's not humorous but just truely offensive, to any race, to any slurr, that name will offend someone in each district.

art_

art_

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

I think theres a lot of racism in this game. Not just in pve.

ixg

ixg

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mostly sounds like people wanting attention.

Quote:
I think theres a lot of racism in this game. Not just in pve.
Not just in the game. And a lot of racism isn't just to do with skin color.

tomcruisejr

tomcruisejr

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by fiery
I originally made this thread to open up those eyes who can't understand racial names offends those in game and in real life. That it's immature and you need to grow up. Racism needs to die and not be uplifted through more generations. To those saying "it's just a game, let me have my fun", it's not a game when you offend those it goes against. You put it on yourself when you make the name, but why? It's not humorous but just truely offensive, to any race, to any slurr, that name will offend someone in each district.

ending racism totally by inhibition is not the best way, imo. how about being open about the slurs and conditioning ourselves so that the words won't mean anything in the long run?

say generations from now a white guy will just laugh when he's called a cracker or a pig or a KKK or say a German will just take it as a light joke if someone calls him a Nazi.

yea, an idealistic approach. but possible to do. blame the human mind/nature for making it difficult.

anyway, no to racism.

Ninetail Trickster

Ninetail Trickster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

A pleasant place that needs more rain. T_T

The Rose Society

I've seen the names the OP mentions, and I honestly wish there was something more than a simple report that could be done. Actually, I'd like to speak to each one of these fools personally and chew them out- but that would only give them the attention they want.
Wretches, all of them.

Mister Overhill

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Tampa, Florida

Sticks and Stones

R/Rt

Aye, we're a long way out from Eden.

Silent Kitty

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

I always report undecent names, racist or sexual explicit.

Kali Magdalene

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Washington

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by fiery
I don't know if it's just me but since this Nightfall Event more racist names appear more. Such as the racial slurr for blacks, "RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO,niga" etc people finding ways to go against the name system. Why do people do this, shits and giggles cause it's just immaturity and just grow up. Plus some reply with "cause im black you fool", than I say why degrade yourself even more. Than some are wiggers or white people acting black,just wow. I mean this is just sad, and I PM each one "how old are you and they say 11-30 years of age. Than I reply with screenshot and sent to a.net, gg.

Anyone else seeing an uprise in racial names?
I haven't been looking, but I recall several borderline racist comments about the Elonian character options that were temporarily available, so I am not surprised.

I don't recall whether I saw them on Guru or GWO.

temp

temp

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

my bedroom

Band Of Death UK

Quote:
Originally Posted by samifly
I've seen some of the names the OP is talking about...
qtfw !

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by fiery
I don't know if it's just me but since this Nightfall Event more racist names appear more. Such as the racial slurr for blacks, "RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO,niga" etc people finding ways to go against the name system. Why do people do this, shits and giggles cause it's just immaturity and just grow up. Plus some reply with "cause im black you fool", than I say why degrade yourself even more. Than some are wiggers or white people acting black,just wow. I mean this is just sad, and I PM each one "how old are you and they say 11-30 years of age. Than I reply with screenshot and sent to a.net, gg.

Anyone else seeing an uprise in racial names?
I'm presuming you're on the American servers beause of 'maryland' in your Avatar and maybe the racism is more prevalent there as I've not come across any racist or near-racist names. I don't see why the African theme would bring racism to the game - I mean my monk's appearance is Negroid and I haven't recieved any racist comments in her lifetime. I didn't see any racism against Asian people when Factions was released or during the pre-release weekend.

I think its worth noting that racism in Nightfall, being African-esque, will not be the developers'/company's fault because its just a place like anywhere else in the world and the game won't be insighting racist names/remarks. It will always be the individual's responsibility.

A little off topic: I was doing an Underworld farm-run during the week with a random SS/Sv necro that I came across and we were chatting away and upon noticing his poor English, I asked where he was from. He replied 'Britain' though I disputed that and he told me he was really from Israel. He explained that he lied because he'd had people leave his party, or he'd been kicked for being Israeli. That burns me.

Where I live racism is virtually non-existent so its hard to sympathize having not seen/experienced it myself although I know its never, ever justifiable.

Voltar

Voltar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

My dog let's me crash at her place.

POB

R/

yeah, there have been wicked rascist stuff all over these forums in the last few days. people probably don't realize the stuff they're saying and it's sometimes helpful to point things out to people with these things. sometimes they just act like idiots but it's worth the shot. that crap offends me and i'm nt black...just aware.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

I haven't noticed any racism in these Forums. Can someone point out or quote some?

fiery

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

I was refering in game, as to the forums i'm sure mods would surely delete it.

majoho

majoho

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Denmark

It just proves that a lot of people that are playing the game are idiots, it's nothing new.

Actually lets just go with "a lot of people are idiots" in general, it's not just in the game.

Venice Queen

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Washington, DC

A Most Excellent Guild [DUDE]

Mo/Me

Nope.

Skawtt

Skawtt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Oregon

W/N

What this game needs is an ingame /report option.

shadowfell

shadowfell

hamonite anur ruk

Join Date: Jan 2006

Echovald Forest

[PhD] Teh Academy

Me/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skawtt
What this game needs is an ingame /report option.
It would be abused. Same reason the /bug feature was removed. People seldom using it for the right reasons and always the wrong ones.

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi
I haven't noticed any racism in these Forums. Can someone point out or quote some?
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10012880

Havre Fras

Havre Fras

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/Me

Speaking of "inappropriate" names, does anyone find the name Arse Man remotly offensive?

It was gonna be my necro's name but i've deleted him because I thought it was a better PvP char name.

I'm probobly off-topic here

Markaedw

Markaedw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/

In game rascism should not be tolerated any more than RL. Even if the things being said are not bannable, I still won't play with the person, but I haven't reported the offense.

We need to draw the line, racism will end only when good people decide not to tolerate it anymore. I think we all need to make our opinions known. Is there an email address to send offensive language to, other than support?

Loralai

Loralai

Purveyor of Useless Info

Join Date: Oct 2005

Perpetual Motion Squad [PMS]

Mo/

I am all for people wanting freedom to express themselves, but I cannot turn off offensive names. I can censor my chat, I can turn it off to avoid seeing it altogether, but if I run across an offensive name in PvP, it's there in my face. And yes, it does affect my gameplaying experience by immediately putting my nerves and/or temper on edge, or in the simplest case making me target the offender, when I should be targeting someone else. I report them all.

Blank

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

As much as i hate it, theres little that can be done to prevent racism. Whether it be typos, indirect comments, or simply alienation. And the saying: 'Where there's a will, there's a way' applies quite well here.

I can handle the casual racism, cause its not too hard to ignore. But what really gets to me is when good people are victimised because of something so trivial as origin.
I had a rank 7 guy help me and my guildmate earn some fame for r3, for a good hour or two out of his own goodness. Every so often he would post that he was recruiting players for his Vietnamese guild. Needless to say he got the usual response: 'OMG the vietcong are comming!1 arghh11'

It really is sad that people have to ruin a game that so many of us enjoy.

The Meatslicer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Warforceclan {WFC}

I Don't Think That Racism Is Rising. You'll See The Random Racist or Offensive Name Mayeb Only Once Every Few Days.

Storm Crow

Storm Crow

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

With Vanatiel by the Lion's Arch Lighthouse, waiting for the storm with which we are accoustomed

Children of the Order [CoO] -True Heroes Fight to Keep the Balance-

Not attempting to be rude or go offtopic, but, has anyone noticed the nonexistance of dark-skinned baddies? I mean to say that all of the human baddies (including Mursaat) are all white, except for Confessor Dorian (I think that's his name..) in the White Mantle and a few other Mantle baddies. And watch, as soon as ANet puts out Nightfall, assuming that it includes mainly black baddies, there'll be a huge racial outburst, and players of African descent will be going off on how ANet is racist, when we've been killing whites for two chapters now.

Back on topic, I just think that the whole racial thing in-game is a complete overstatement. Every part world has it's racial differences, and there are slurs for every known race, be it African, Asian, or Whites. People just need to learn that every person is different and that they can't have everything their way, it's just not how it works. And really, that's why the Devs included a skin tone option in the character creation menu.

Fungus Amongus

Fungus Amongus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare] | [Rare] Alliance



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Angel Develin

Angel Develin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Lions Arch

Minions of Kronos

N/Me

I saw some 1 called "white boy" should he be reported to and get banned for this?? or is it the way you say it? or is it the meaning ppl give it?
If I name my character white chick is that racial to or not??
What about Blondi (the good, the bad and the ugly) and if some 1 ask we whay I do something wrong I could say : Hey I'm blond ?? does this make the name stupid or how I give a meaning to it?

I know it is stupid and ppl are not creative enough to come up with a nice name but does RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO not mean "black"?? and if it is such a "racial" thing so let them self stop calling each other like "yo my RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO or wazaaap my niga" (if you don't know what I mean just watch this thing called the TV and you know what I mean....MTV ftw).


If you don't like ppl that come up with stupid names just don't group up or waste your time to talk to them.

Mr.Moses

Mr.Moses

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Havre Fras
Speaking of "inappropriate" names, does anyone find the name Arse Man remotly offensive?

It was gonna be my necro's name but i've deleted him because I thought it was a better PvP char name.

I'm probobly off-topic here
Arse Man, eh? Is that a reference to the Assman episode of Seinfeld? O.o

/ontpoic

There's plenty of racism everywhere but I'd say there's less racism on GW then other games I've been in. Sometimes when I get tired of Guild Wars I sometimes boot up the ol' silly Halo PC and there's tons of racist comments there. And (alas) the few times I boot up Mr. War III I sometimes see some racist junk.
I have come across some racism every once and a while in GW though. Once I joined a PvP team for HA and when I got on their vent there was plenty of racism dripping off their conversation.
I went in with them on a run anyway because it had taken forever to find a group but we got pwned hard......by the zaishen. We did actually kill the zaishen but they didnt' get much farther than that. Don't wanna encourage stereotypes or anything...but racist people are usually prancing somewhere or another within the border of sheer stupidity.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Storm Crow
Not attempting to be rude or go offtopic, but, has anyone noticed the nonexistance of dark-skinned baddies? I mean to say that all of the human baddies (including Mursaat) are all white, except for Confessor Dorian (I think that's his name..) in the White Mantle and a few other Mantle baddies. And watch, as soon as ANet puts out Nightfall, assuming that it includes mainly black baddies, there'll be a huge racial outburst, and players of African descent will be going off on how ANet is racist, when we've been killing whites for two chapters now.

Back on topic, I just think that the whole racial thing in-game is a complete overstatement. Every part world has it's racial differences, and there are slurs for every known race, be it African, Asian, or Whites. People just need to learn that every person is different and that they can't have everything their way, it's just not how it works. And really, that's why the Devs included a skin tone option in the character creation menu.
I think it's just the themes of the games so far. Prophecies was sort of set in a Psuedo-Europe/oldskool castles n' dragons type place. The closest you got to different human races is the tanned Krytans. Factions was an "asian" theme. Nightfall is an African theme so we'll see some African and Egyptian-looking chars, both good and bad. They may even throw in a lil influence from the Middle East just for fun. If they throw in enough Middle East influence we may even get a Ski Dubai (Google it) in Nightfall.

saneo

saneo

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by majoho
"a lot of people are idiots" in general, it's not just in the game.
i'd say more. many more.

and stormcrow, i don't think the mursaat can be white, they are like humanoid dragonflies, and most of the white mantle is very tan. and really only the stone summit are white, but they aren't human. anet makes baddies look like monsters for a reason. (i.e. afflicted, charr, dryders)