I expect to see a lot more "LF SS" in Nightfall outposts.
Dervish vs. Spiteful Spirit/Empathy
Zinger314
If the Dervish 3-hit-on-auto-attatck behaves like a Ranger's Barrage with relation to Spiteful Spirit/Empathy procs, then Dervishes could die really, really fast. (And with SS, knock their entire group out fast as well...)
I expect to see a lot more "LF SS" in Nightfall outposts.
(As opposed to "LF MM...)
I expect to see a lot more "LF SS" in Nightfall outposts.
Sereng Amaranth
I don't see that it would be 3 attacks. They only swing once. As opposed to 3+ arrows with Barrage.
Saphatorael
They swing once, thus empathy/SS will trigger once, sometimes assassins are in troubles because of this if they use a dual attack.
BUT!
Insidious Parasite triggers off foes getting hit, so if a Dervish hits 3, he'll get his health stolen thrice. Ultimate Dervish counter, it seems ^^
BUT!
Insidious Parasite triggers off foes getting hit, so if a Dervish hits 3, he'll get his health stolen thrice. Ultimate Dervish counter, it seems ^^
NinjaKai
Besides SS is easy enough to stop from being casted long enough to kill an SS necro. I specifically made my D/Me to target them.
lightblade
SS and Empathy has almost no effect on Dervish...
Pious Restoration - loses 3 hex!
Pious Restoration - loses 3 hex!
Siva arwen
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SS and Empathy has almost no effect on Dervish...
Pious Restoration - loses 3 hex! |
Avatar of Dwayna : Elite Form. For 1...48 seconds, whenever you use a skill, you gain 5...41 Health and lose one Hex. This skill is disabled for 120 seconds.
One question: Is it Dervish = Druid ?
anonymous
No, dervish = dervish
Plushie Penguin
I've taken my necro into RA with my SS aspenwood/quarry build, and I wouldn't depend on SS taking them out fast
Hella Good
Dervishes have very good hex management. I'd go for Inepti/Clumsi/IoR and the likes- things that dish out the damage all at once. When some1 SS me as a Dervish I just use that skill that takes one of your chants off, heals you, and removes like 2 hexes from you if you still got chants on. Whatever it's called. It's 5 cost, 4 recharge, so.... seriously, go for the instakill hexes.
Nesty_Angel
spirit shackles, they don't have mana they can't do nothihg, i applied shackles on some dervish in about roughly 5 games and they became a weak point after that.
Evilsod
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Dervishes have very good hex management. I'd go for Inepti/Clumsi/IoR and the likes- things that dish out the damage all at once. When some1 SS me as a Dervish I just use that skill that takes one of your chants off, heals you, and removes like 2 hexes from you if you still got chants on. Whatever it's called. It's 5 cost, 4 recharge, so.... seriously, go for the instakill hexes.
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Sorry but hte Dervish is so obviously a rip off of the Druid from Diablo 2. Lemme see, shapeshifting... Wolves and Bears... 'Godly' avatars. Ok thats 1
Wind magic. Tornados/Whirlings etc. Similar style but a different sort of spells.
Earth magic... holy shit something close to a difference.
Rancour
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Sorry but hte Dervish is so obviously a rip off of the Druid from Diablo 2.
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exiled mat
I forsee great farming moments with dervish
Former Ruling
SS triggers on the attack, not the hit, so 1 swing of the scythe may very well only produce 1 SS trigger.
ANd SS does nothing to a Dervish right now..I haven't seen 1 Dervish acutally attack anything to kill it all day, and Dervishes have insane heals, insane hex and condition removal, etc.
ANd SS does nothing to a Dervish right now..I haven't seen 1 Dervish acutally attack anything to kill it all day, and Dervishes have insane heals, insane hex and condition removal, etc.
Raxxman
My major gripe is Dervish just aren't team players.
they're the most self contained, self sufficent class I've ever seen. Sure people can take them down, but compare them to a warrior and I feel the warrior becomes really hard done by, Area effect attacks, massive hex removal, massive heals, massive e management.
they're the most self contained, self sufficent class I've ever seen. Sure people can take them down, but compare them to a warrior and I feel the warrior becomes really hard done by, Area effect attacks, massive hex removal, massive heals, massive e management.
Bane of Worlds
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My major gripe is Dervish just aren't team players.
they're the most self contained, self sufficent class I've ever seen. Sure people can take them down, but compare them to a warrior and I feel the warrior becomes really hard done by, Area effect attacks, massive hex removal, massive heals, massive e management. |
Lambentviper
well i was in RA today on a N/Me named "I found the counter"
it consisted of a Soul Leech + Backfire build with 16 blood and 11 domination magic and it owned every single dervish i ran into
it consisted of a Soul Leech + Backfire build with 16 blood and 11 domination magic and it owned every single dervish i ran into
Raxxman
Problem is just because one build can one on one a dervish doesn't make it a balanced class
Phades
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well i was in RA today on a N/Me named "I found the counter"
it consisted of a Soul Leech + Backfire build with 16 blood and 11 domination magic and it owned every single dervish i ran into |
Evilsod
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Right, and Dolly Parton sleeps on her stomach...
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Right... SS triggers on attack not hit. So why does Barrage trigger 4 times when i hit 4 targets exactly? Same thing goes to Empathy? They hit multiple times in a single attack, yet trigger multiple times too.
Evilsod
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Im happy for you that every dervish you ran into was too stupid to precast and bring CoP, in addition to only having to face one of them at a time.
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Rancour
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As you ignored the rest of my post, why should i care what you think?
Right... SS triggers on attack not hit. So why does Barrage trigger 4 times when i hit 4 targets exactly? Same thing goes to Empathy? They hit multiple times in a single attack, yet trigger multiple times too. |
Thing is, I see what you mean but I just think it's slightly far-fetched. True, Dervishes can turn into Avatars and they can make gusts of wind but do you really think they look like druid rip-off material?
It's like saying the Ranger is a Diablo 2 Amazon rip-off because they're both use a bow. Resemblance, but a rip-off? Hardly.
Shapeshifting? Right, but no bear or wolf to be seen.
Tornados and command of wind? Does that make elementalists druids too?
I see the connection, but it's far from being a rip-off, in my opinion; but I did read your post though.
As for SS/Empathy triggering multiple times on Barrage, it's in the description.
Barrage: All your "Preparations" are removed. Shoot arrows at up to 6 enemies near your target. These arrows strike for +1-13 damage if they hit.
It's says you fire several arrows (one per target) meaning that you are actually attacking up to 6 times (hence the multi-triggering of SS/Empathy) unlike a Scythe attack which is a single attack that hits more targets.