Im not sure if this has been discovered yet...

Anraeth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

SE america

This Is Cakeguild [cAke]

It looks like we have a new botting scandal in granite citadel ID 1.

Go look for yourself.

xBakox

xBakox

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

[JF] Just Friends, [NOT] Nomads of Turmoil

I'm not in game...Care to explain?

Anraeth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

SE america

This Is Cakeguild [cAke]

The same type of bots that farmed elona reach are now farming north of granite. However, there are not as many of them this time.

Maria The Princess

Maria The Princess

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Aequitas Deis

what happened? elona got nurfed or somethin?

are they farming IDS by any chance?

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

actually i think...they are going north of granite citadel because you cap Shield of Judgement in mineral springs, and that skill is almost mandatory for a 55 monk.

Anraeth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

SE america

This Is Cakeguild [cAke]

no, they are not in groups.... and are using the same path over and over.

If you go in game, you will agree.

buck_futter

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

cMen

Mo/

ok so do you know what they could be farming there?

Anraeth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

SE america

This Is Cakeguild [cAke]

im assuming avicara

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

There's quite a few in the International Districts of Atrumn Ruins too. And they make it VERY obvious that they're bots.

Cracko

Cracko

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

i say they are farming avicara, ever noticed how many people sell avicara brave armor unids?

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

Quote:
WTS Avicara armour, 1 for 3k, buy all 7 for 20k. Good luck for u!
I tried to whisper a couple, I get no response... no more different than AFKers... except they flood the general and trade chats.

Lex

Lex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
actually i think...they are going north of granite citadel because you cap Shield of Judgement in mineral springs, and that skill is almost mandatory for a 55 monk.
... because every account can have now increased number of bots - 32.

Yay for ANet's additional slots

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rafal
... because every account can have now increased number of bots - 32.

Yay for ANet's additional slots
How many slots can play at a time?

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

Haha Lex, I was just speaking with you in Citadel ID1. Shouldn't someone mention this to Anet some time soon?

Lex

Lex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
How many slots can play at a time?
One - but u got more storage space!

makosi, after you gone, new things appeared - some of bots were guilded!

Tachyon

Tachyon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Stoke, England

The Godless [GOD]

W/

Sitting there now watching them.

All of them run into the Tasca's Demise sign at the exit and then side-step out of the way before running through the portal.

Jin Of Stealth

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Elite Misfits United

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Azagoth
All of them run into the Tasca's Demise sign at the exit and then side-step out of the way before running through the portal.
I nominate this as the new bot quote!

TheLordOfBlah

TheLordOfBlah

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

None

Mo/N

Guildie mentioned this to me earlier. Sad to see the bot problem is spreading like that.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

If I could shoot the people that stand in Droknar's Forge and Spam: "\/\/TS Avicara armour, 1 for 3k, buy all 7 for 24k" I would...its annoying.

I'll give an Illustrated Example of the Botting in Granite.

1) They walk sideways into the Tasca's Refuge Sign.
*Wait about 2-3seconds*
2) They Strife into the middle of the portal
*Wait about 2-3seconds*
3) They then walk into the Portal

Here is the overhead of the Tasca's Demise Sign, and the botted path.



This isnt the full path. I have noted their entire path from Spawning in, to getting in again.

It takes them ~1-2mins to do the whole thing.

1) They spawn
*wait some seconds*
2) They follow the same curved path around the stairs and continue on until they hit the same spot on the Spearhead Peaks Sign
*Wait 5-10 seconds*
3) They path to the merchant (where I assume the 5yr old boy being paid 2 pennies a year physically sells all the junk)
*Wait 10-15 seconds*
4-6) The steps I illustrated above.

Lampshade

Lampshade

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Xen of Onslaught

lovely drawing my dear

BigBlue42

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Oregon City, OR

Auspicious Incantation [Ai]

R/Rt

uh....forgive my ignorance, but how exactly do the bots work? From the sounds of it, they can barely get out of town, how can they possibly farm?

Takkun

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

OMG BOTZ IN GUILDWARZ? OMGZORZ.

I never knew bots ever existed in guildwars. This is so new to me. My god. Oh the humanity!

/end sarcasm

bots are basically players with macro, which means that there is a side computer program running behind guildwars which copies your key movements to be played over and over again for farming.

BigBlue42

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Oregon City, OR

Auspicious Incantation [Ai]

R/Rt

thats kinda lame, and ineffective, what with all the variables, ie different spawns, battles might play out differently, you wont get the exact same drops as when it recorded your movements.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

So much for A.net banning botters. They just keep coming back

jackie

jackie

/retired

Join Date: Dec 2005

On the Beach

They just keep coming back and A.net gets more money by selling new accounts to them

Seissor

Seissor

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Squiggilyville. Population: Me.

[oRly] Hello Kitty Death Squad

R/Me

Anet's solution...hmm bots run out portals?

Next day, all portals are nerfed, if you want to leave town you must talk to an NPC and retype a code he gives you.


OMG I was only being silly but by gosh, I think I solved it!

P.S I like waffles.

Andisa Kalorn

Andisa Kalorn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

[PMS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cracko
i say they are farming avicara, ever noticed how many people sell avicara brave armor unids?
Does anyone actually buy those things? I have the sinking feeling that they do... against all reason. Ugh...

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seissor
Anet's solution...hmm bots run out portals?

Next day, all portals are nerfed, if you want to leave town you must talk to an NPC and retype a code he gives you.


OMG I was only being silly but by gosh, I think I solved it!

P.S I like waffles.

Then they would just hire a guy who types in the codes for the bots 1 by 1....

Silent Kitty

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

With more character slots to fill, botting has become much easier now. When a player uses a different bot every hour, they become almost impossible to detect.

Plushie Penguin

Plushie Penguin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

That plushie penguin on a shelf in your bed room

Rt/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seissor
Anet's solution...hmm bots run out portals?

Next day, all portals are nerfed, if you want to leave town you must talk to an NPC and retype a code he gives you.


OMG I was only being silly but by gosh, I think I solved it!

P.S I like waffles.
so do I!
bots are kind of ghosts repeating the same thing, even with different spawns, there's going to be at least one bot that gets the setting the waypoints are made for
if I'm sure a person is a bot, I'm tempted to flame at them....

Yarly

Yarly

Retired GW Player

Join Date: Jun 2006

UK

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andisa Kalorn
Does anyone actually buy those things? I have the sinking feeling that they do... against all reason. Ugh...
Yeah some just buy them in the hope of getting lucky with runes, others buy them to get speedy wisdom titles.

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanman.be
Then they would just hire a guy who types in the codes for the bots 1 by 1....
Sadly, this sounds better than my current job. Do you know where to send my resume?

Silent Kitty

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove
Sadly, this sounds better than my current job. Do you know where to send my resume?
I am afraid that all the bot owner has to do is farm once. The program will remember the moves, and repeat them all over again. Once outside the bot owner casts the enchantments, moves to a spot with the monsters it will farm and goes in defence mode.
The program will remember it all and simply repeat it all over again.

Tainek

Tainek

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

[Rage]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seissor
Anet's solution...hmm bots run out portals?

Next day, all portals are nerfed, if you want to leave town you must talk to an NPC and retype a code he gives you.


OMG I was only being silly but by gosh, I think I solved it!

P.S I like waffles.

Trivial, I Could write code to mimic Copying and pasting the code in 2 or 3 mins


Congradulations, you've found a "solution" that does nothing but annoy honest players



and no, i dont write farming bots

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBlue42
uh....forgive my ignorance, but how exactly do the bots work? From the sounds of it, they can barely get out of town, how can they possibly farm?
A bot is a script running a pre-set sequence of events. It is completely unintelligent. In pseudo-code:

1. Target sign.
2. Start run to sign
3. (timer X seconds, to give the bot time to run to sign from wherever it is in Granite citadel, will on average be a bit too long meaning the bot stands still at the sign for a few seconds)
4. Start sidestep right
5. (timer Y seconds, to give bot time to go from sign to where it will hit the exit when running forward)
6. Run forward

Once outside it'll basically do the same thing to get to some place where a known group of enemies are, activate its skills in a pre-set order to kill them, target drops and pick them up, then map to town, target mule, transfer all drops, then GOTO 1 to do the whole thing over again. It's really very simplistic, anyone could make a bot like this using freeware on the net (no, I'm not going to help anyone do it).

Meanwhile there's a human minder somewhere in china or india, overseeing perhaps a dozen computers, each running _at least_ one instance of guildwars with one of these bots active in each one. He's paid to restart the bot when it glitches, and to respond to whispers (as they might be from an in-game moderator). He's also responsible for sorting the loot in mule #1, ie selling off the trash and moving interesting stuff to storage or mule #2 for later sale.

Saix The Spartan

Saix The Spartan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

A/

Elona bots have started to make a come back..

Saix The Spartan

Saix The Spartan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tainek
Trivial, I Could write code to mimic Copying and pasting the code in 2 or 3 mins


Congradulations, you've found a "solution" that does nothing but annoy honest players



and no, i dont write farming bots
That would acually work, if it's a random code like the ones you get when your signing up for something on a wesite. That's how websites stop bots, and it works.

Sarevok Thordin

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

As well as the lvl 20 Mo/Ws there are lvl 2 ones there? o_O

They come in large groups too.......probibly for plvling to prep them for the botting itself -_-

There is another path the bots will sometimes take.

Seems they cater for WHEREVER the spawnpoint is =p

Snowman

Snowman

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wales, UK

Devils Scorpions

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
How many slots can play at a time?
lol! Touché

Takedu

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Let me guess, they won`t do anything to those accounts, instead they`ll nerf those spawns either by making them impossible to kill solo or by nerfing the drops, affecting us all. Repeat every time the bald farmers find another hotspot. GG