So far in the game lets say in Faction there were many times when i wished i could go and play the game more solo way... That means no need to pack up stupid hences or pulling my hair out to find decent pig party..
So what i have in mind is something more like lets say Gothic like playing where u pick few NPCs along the way which fullfill the story and lore..
To me sometimes playing with a group doesnt give me real PvE feeling ( when fighting certain group gives me more PvP like feeling ) like other "solo" games.. afterall GW is more like solo game when u exit a town ( especialy equiped with hences ). So what i have in mind is that there would be monsters scattered around instead of in groups which u MUST fight to get around.
What i d like to see is random possitioning of mobs around landscape, so u can decide either u will engage or try to sneak threw the forces.
So what r your suggestions ot thoughts?
Would u like to be able play solo withouthences?
Bhaaltazar
Zinger314
Make a 55 Monk. 
This is a party oriented game. This isn't WoW.
This is a party oriented game. This isn't WoW.
Bhaaltazar
Dont go and use that old rusty expression.. "Go play WoW".. Use ur brains to come out with something little more original or whatever.
I didnt even mentioned it.. Why i said that is that while u play with party there isnt much chance to explore the world around u.. some players want to go strait ahead to complete quest or mission someothers wants something else and so on..
Id like to do thing when and how i decide em to do.. and no the answer is not take hences ( than it becomes ordinary solo game, and no taking guildies takes time to get em in a group especialy if ur in small guild...
And the consenquence of this is idling in towns looking for party.. which becomes really time consuming. Usualy because 90% of pugs there thinks that u can beat that mission only when u ll be using the build or party of certain proffesions because otherwise u ll fail ( which is not true ).
Yes i agree GW is party oriented game but make this somewhat easier to get or at least offfer some other options than just dumb hences making this game more single player based than ordinary single player based.
And for the end this is not the rant or flame, i just posted this because i met many players in game complaining about this same issue.
I didnt even mentioned it.. Why i said that is that while u play with party there isnt much chance to explore the world around u.. some players want to go strait ahead to complete quest or mission someothers wants something else and so on..
Id like to do thing when and how i decide em to do.. and no the answer is not take hences ( than it becomes ordinary solo game, and no taking guildies takes time to get em in a group especialy if ur in small guild...
And the consenquence of this is idling in towns looking for party.. which becomes really time consuming. Usualy because 90% of pugs there thinks that u can beat that mission only when u ll be using the build or party of certain proffesions because otherwise u ll fail ( which is not true ).
Yes i agree GW is party oriented game but make this somewhat easier to get or at least offfer some other options than just dumb hences making this game more single player based than ordinary single player based.
And for the end this is not the rant or flame, i just posted this because i met many players in game complaining about this same issue.
Ellador Nae
What Zinger said. Going solo would be interesting, but beside the point. Plus it would probably require some hefty changes (excepting the upcoming expansions). Some missions are hard even with a full crew of players and damn near impossible with the hench. If anything, I'd like more or better hench, since it's getting ever harder to get a balanced PUG or indeed any PUG at all (and good luck henching e.g. Boreas Seabed, Vizunah..). Nightfall will spread the players even more thin imo. Alesia FTW! lol
I like the idea of picking up NPCs as you go along though, which we've seen already, sort of (except they're more a burden than help).
I like the idea of picking up NPCs as you go along though, which we've seen already, sort of (except they're more a burden than help).
Lambentviper
ive already maid many Dervish builds that can survive against anything for indefinite lengths of time...im looking forword to being a 1-man army in Nightfall
MalVeauX
This is not Diablo 2.
We share drops.
We form a party with balance.
We accomplish tasks together.
We cannot go forward without others.
There is no I in We.
As for the feeling of PvE, fighting a group of huge giants that are four times your size on your own, with no healing, no backup, no one to help you, just seems silly. Yea, that huge boulder they hit you with. You're a skinny little Necromancer. How the hell do you not just crumple like a spider?
Having to work together and with other characters, is why we play Guild Wars. Otherwise, what's the point?
We share drops.
We form a party with balance.
We accomplish tasks together.
We cannot go forward without others.
There is no I in We.
As for the feeling of PvE, fighting a group of huge giants that are four times your size on your own, with no healing, no backup, no one to help you, just seems silly. Yea, that huge boulder they hit you with. You're a skinny little Necromancer. How the hell do you not just crumple like a spider?
Having to work together and with other characters, is why we play Guild Wars. Otherwise, what's the point?
AW Lore
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We share drops.
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i know where the feeling of "want to take them all on my own" game, ever played oblvionII? it was a nice game, but it was boring to always take the enemy armies on my own, and when i took the first oblivion gate where i had to take some soldiers to teach them how to close them, i enjoyed that mission, but it was a one time thing... i even made sure the 2 soliders+the lieutenant survived
thats why i like GW, the team play
dargon
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ive already maid many Dervish builds that can survive against anything for indefinite lengths of time...im looking forword to being a 1-man army in Nightfall
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milias
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This is a party oriented game.
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I myself prefer to party with people, although at times I do tend to pull my hair out like the OP said, but in the end, I still prefer playing with people than henchies.
NinjaKai
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This is not Diablo 2.
We share drops. We form a party with balance. We accomplish tasks together. We cannot go forward without others. There is no I in We. |
MalVeauX
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ANet has already said themselves. They have no problem with farming. They just don't like bots and solo farming.
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Farming doesn't work everywhere, nor does it work all the time.
Farming isn't encouraged, because it's not a promotion of the experience A.net wants to offer. But it cannot be excluded, because people will farm, no matter what, so long as it's possible to not have parties in this game. Due to that, of course A.net will not totally discourage farming, but they will let you know that (a) don't go overboard with it, (b) it's not what they intended as a game, and (c) this game isn't about making 100 "magic find" runs per day.
I farm too.
I like it sometimes.
I farm entire zones.
It gives me my "glory hog" feeling.
But playing the entire game? Solo?
No.
Sereng Amaranth
I hear that in Nightfall that we will be able to customize our NPCs.
fiery
Make a trapper and solo!
Skyy High
If the game were balanced so that you could solo your way through, how bloody easy would it be for a real party of 8?
FelixCarter
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We share drops.
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I hear that in Nightfall that we will be able to customize our NPCs.
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Solar_Takfar
I do PvE with hench more than 90% of the time. It's not much different than playing any other solo RPG, imo.
And yes, there is a rumor that companion NPCs will be customizable in nightfall, based on some info that was up at ebgames for a few hours. Anet doesn't confirm (neither denies) the information.
And yes, there is a rumor that companion NPCs will be customizable in nightfall, based on some info that was up at ebgames for a few hours. Anet doesn't confirm (neither denies) the information.
Sli Ander
Just so you know monks are NOT crippled without a team. I'm a proud smiter, not a 55 or healer. (not trying to be mean or anything)
That said, I agree that their should be more options concerning getting around. I've earned the tyrian cartographer title, but because of the limitations of my class I can't go much further without a real team. And have you thought about how hard it is to find a team of people willing to let you run off and explore while they just want to complete the end game mission?
I know this is group oriented, but sometimes finding a group to do something not oriented towards beating the game is nigh impossible...
That said, I agree that their should be more options concerning getting around. I've earned the tyrian cartographer title, but because of the limitations of my class I can't go much further without a real team. And have you thought about how hard it is to find a team of people willing to let you run off and explore while they just want to complete the end game mission?
I know this is group oriented, but sometimes finding a group to do something not oriented towards beating the game is nigh impossible...
MalVeauX
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Just so you know monks are NOT crippled without a team. I'm a proud smiter, not a 55 or healer. (not trying to be mean or anything)
That said, I agree that their should be more options concerning getting around. I've earned the tyrian cartographer title, but because of the limitations of my class I can't go much further without a real team. And have you thought about how hard it is to find a team of people willing to let you run off and explore while they just want to complete the end game mission? I know this is group oriented, but sometimes finding a group to do something not oriented towards beating the game is nigh impossible... |
Most people I encounter, randomly, are interested in other things, because they've already gone through the game 3 or 4 times and are interested in other more specific things. So they work towards small goals like that.
Often times, you'll find guilds of people... just for this reason.
Maybe you're looking in the wrong places. Here's a hit: don't try to find gamers in Beacon's Perch, Droknar's Forge nor the Amnoon Oasis.
Go to small places, that require effort. Most people there are just gaming and doing little things and looking to play with people. It's why they're there, and not in the big places buying a runner.
KvanCetre
I'm playing WoW and GW presently, and the way I see it is:
In WoW, you are a hero, the one who single handedly can crush empires. Only the toughest of fortresses requires you to party with other such heroes!
In GW, you are one person in a group of adventures who can crush empires. You can't run it alone, as you are just one warrior fighting empires. Only through teamwork can you hope to defeat your enemies.
In WoW, you are a hero, the one who single handedly can crush empires. Only the toughest of fortresses requires you to party with other such heroes!
In GW, you are one person in a group of adventures who can crush empires. You can't run it alone, as you are just one warrior fighting empires. Only through teamwork can you hope to defeat your enemies.
unmatchedfury
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If the game were balanced so that you could solo your way through, how bloody easy would it be for a real party of 8?
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and then increasing monster drops exponentially (the main incentive to go party) and monster difficulty per player added to the party.
i would have loved to have had that system in this game, puts a stop to solo farming and makes team play a must. But also lets you get missions done in a not- so tedious and annoying way as HAVING to get a party to do them( i do want some exeptions such as the last boss in the game/ high end raids not neccecary for storyline and whatnot.)
Sli Ander
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Odd, I rarely find people who are interested in actually doing the missions.
Most people I encounter, randomly, are interested in other things, because they've already gone through the game 3 or 4 times and are interested in other more specific things. So they work towards small goals like that. Often times, you'll find guilds of people... just for this reason. Maybe you're looking in the wrong places. Here's a hit: don't try to find gamers in Beacon's Perch, Droknar's Forge nor the Amnoon Oasis. Go to small places, that require effort. Most people there are just gaming and doing little things and looking to play with people. It's why they're there, and not in the big places buying a runner. |
TadaceAce
If you wanna solo you have two options.
Make a solo build (55 monk and stuff)
Get henchmen, they are basically wastes of space right now but come nightfall you can customize um and make um as good as you want.
Make a solo build (55 monk and stuff)
Get henchmen, they are basically wastes of space right now but come nightfall you can customize um and make um as good as you want.
Zakarr
Soloable online game? Doesn't make sense.
Bhaaltazar
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If you wanna solo you have two options.
Make a solo build (55 monk and stuff) Get henchmen, they are basically wastes of space right now but come nightfall you can customize um and make um as good as you want. |
I never said I dont like to party with right ppl.. but how many times happened to you when 2 players in your groups start argueing with eachother calling eachother names and than usualy both of them or some others as well leave the party in the middle of the mission.
To get serious players ( not some childish teenagers who thinks they know everything about this game ) it takes time... sometimes it takes even more than 30 mins especialy in some later areas which r empty half of the time.
And as I said before I DO NOT want to make any comparisment betwen WoW and GW or something i just wanted to point out that sometimes even casual gaming becomes realy time consuming trying to get into decent party.
p.s. And i look forward to NF with all this NPC customisations... Well if that will help hences to fight and make em look like they have a brain, than u have my vote on that.
majoho
u, r and ur aren't words please stop doing that, this isn't a text message board.