has solo farming got nerfed?

foody

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

PA

W/

ive been doing solo farming greens and such things since ive had gw for about 10 months now. ive been noticing every week or so the farming has been getting worse n worse at my same spots. ive been switching it up alot and have tried alot of diffrent places and have found some places to solo that no1 has posted. has the drop rate changed for solo? have they made it better for group farming and worse for solo...? i cant stand group farming. these is always 1 idiot newb who runs right in and aggros massive groups n dies. has this happened with the drop change or did my luck just go bye bye??

Chronos the Defiler

Chronos the Defiler

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

W/

true....i did a 30 run on a spot and not a single thing...i got tons of scrolls and several crappy items, but not a single time did i get the green i was after

foody

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

PA

W/

ya i did 45 runs on sskai so i had a 30 life wep 4 my ranger to run with n got mad n just quit it n bought one for 8k

taco_salad

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

no where

Lords of the Abyss [LORD]

W/Mo

yep anet is not only beating us solo farming in the face with a nerf but, but they are lubeing the bat up for the final rape of farming, because money should have to be pulled from the skin like some sort of cruel joke in anet's eyes.

One day I hope to see a NPC outside that make you pay 10 plat for farming outside elona.

maraxusofk

maraxusofk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

San Francisco, UC Berkeley

International District [id多], In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP], LOL at [eF]

W/

Farming is difficult always. Ive nearly beaten game wit 4 characters thru faction by now, going to every single city and completing nearly every quest. What do i get? 2 greens. Yes not only is solo farming difficult, group farming is still difficult. Havent seen any solo builds outside of UW and FOW efficently make money.

foody

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

PA

W/

it has nothing to do with difficulty its the drops they r getting worse its not hard n group famrign should be ez its just sutpid newbs

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Anti-Farming code...

ArTy

ArTy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Australia

Overclockers Australia [OCAU]

Perhaps.

Did 3 solo runs to try and get a Totem Axe for my new 55...got nothing. Do one with a Guildy and 2 drop. Guildy 3 man team does another 2 more drop WTF?

Anet only wants us to farm in groups??

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

I got 3 Stonereapers today solo, so farming isnt nerfed.

Captain Robo

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

I've had it with guilds.

E/Me

Speak for yourself.

I farm the following bosses regularly

Ghial, Stonereap, Rit Construct, Strongroot, Chkkr Thousand Tail

In the past two weeks-- Absolutely nothing.

I do about four-five farming runs on each per day at different intevals, taking time to stop and do a mission between.

king_robin

king_robin

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Stockholm Sweden

LF HA Guild

Mo/

Anet hasn't neft solo farm. I just farmed 2 totem axe solo in the same run. But now i dont know what im gonna do with em. =( And also i got Arrash sheild (Green) at the first try. So there is no neft just Superior Bad Luck ^^

MASQUE EYE

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

FIERY KNIGHTS

R/Mo

for me it has been, i solo farm 15 bosses in cantha and i havent gotten jack in 5 days. i switch around and do some quests and missions and i havent gotten jack.

mathijn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

holland

[PIKY]

R/

same, farm 5 bosses, in tyria and cantha, different times, mission between
0 drops out of 100 kills in about 2 weeks

Luciora

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Prophecy

E/Mo

Ecto drops seems to be far worse as well. Now we are lucky to score 1 ecto in 4 or so runs. Something is just not right I tell you....

After killing Zarnas for about 60 odd times (total not in one day) I finally got his green drop. It is getting rather hard to make any money in the game and I have a BAD 15k armour habbit to support

Roxas

Roxas

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Hell Own Warrior

It can't be the anti-facming code cuz when it will show a small blue box saying to stop farming just the begging of the area n stuff.

rhYmedizzle

rhYmedizzle

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Funkin Around[FA]

Mo/N

when more people farm in an area it hurts ur drops, thats why mountain trolls dont drop anything good very often, cause every is pwr lvling there. just try one spot for a few times, if it doesnt work, move on to another spot or do something else.

SirShadowrunner

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

at the beach

Gamerzunlimited (GU)

R/

So far, it seems ppl farm greens more than regular monsters, I think
because the areas to go on long farm runs in Factions is limited and it is
actually fairly easy to run to the bosses and kill for the green.
Prices have plummeted, everyone knows what builds to use and how to get
there, so the drops are gonna take a hit because everyone is doing the same
thing.

I prefer nice long farm runs myself, like the crystal desert and
dreadnaughts drift, more challenging than just the killing part and
the scenery is awesome.

lennymon

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

this is just one of many of my current theories but, data fits this one still: what if drops rates for any given item/material in any area are constant per time regardless of how many people farm there? Meaning if one guy goes to uw and farms 10 ectos day one, day 2 he told his buddies and all 10 go in, each guy getting 1 ecto, day 3: 100 people, total # of ectos dropped 10. In reality I dont think any farming code/drop equation is that simplistic, but the concept of limited supply no matter how many people (over)farm an area is fairly obviously the rule. So the more an area gets farmed, not just by you but also by everyone else could and does affect the drop rate you see.

ArTy

ArTy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Australia

Overclockers Australia [OCAU]

That theory has been suggested by people who posted earlier, and sounds quite reasonable <_< >_>

Maybe Anet set a limit on how many can be farmed per day in the world

I'm heading off then to places where no-one farms, to get me some uber loot. Maybe those annoying Mesmer things in the desert

unmatchedfury

unmatchedfury

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Cookie Cutter [FTW]

what do you guys farm with? you all talk about heading off into the desert to farm. 55 monks? anyway does anyone know someplace good to farm for a echo vengful was khanei ritulist? i can't go anywhere in kaineig city ( i get freakin nuked to death) as a matter of fact almost everywere in factions is super hard to solo as compared to teh desert where i am able to solo most mobs.

sigh.. i wish GW wasn't so damn team orriented and we could get out and explore more wih out sharing with dunderhead hench.

Farson

Farson

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2006

Midwest

AFO

R/Mo

I'm still in the air on whether or not the drops are just at a statistically random rate or there is some greater consipracy against the solo farming.

I have made a few runs at totems since this first post and have had random & extremely frustrating drop rates. I think I did about 12 runs with no drops and then BAM - the next two runs I got 3 totems each. And then another dry spell of about 10 runs then I called it quits for awhile.

I think that tightening the drop rate has been done in part to hedge against the saturation of greens in the market. If the high drops rates were to continue then in response, the solo & team farming would continue to increase which would ultimatley lead to a massive market of greens. The more people out there selling greens the less and less valuable they become. It's a double edged sword really. More drops = less value. Less drops = prices can go up.

Mera Regila

Mera Regila

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

In The Deep

R/A

No conspiracy against solo farming no, but they do have an anti farming code. If you farm with the same people in your party for a while you get steadily less drops.

Shadowborn Demon

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Brothers of Honour [boh]

Mo/

I really find it funny when people say things like this. No, ANet has not nerfed drop rates, chances are they would tell us in a game update if they did. It is just, as people have said earlier, Anti-Farm. Personally, I also farm greens (without breaks) and have got 13 Greens in the space of two weeks (all of them different Greens) and i think luck also plays a big part.

Jiao Yang

Jiao Yang

Lunar Rabbit

Join Date: Dec 2005

I have done around 20 Icebreaker runs, just doing 2 or 3 runs a week to make sure I don't trigger the anti farming code and I have never got an Icebreaker. And I clear all the mighty grawl every time..

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiao Yang
And I clear all the mighty grawl every time. Well that's a waste of time. I think it was GuildWiki that said only the grawl that you see holding it has a chance to drop it. All other grawl will definitely not drop.

ArTy

ArTy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Australia

Overclockers Australia [OCAU]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade
Well that's a waste of time. I think it was GuildWiki that said only the grawl that you see holding it has a chance to drop it. All other grawl will definitely not drop. True, I have gotten 5 Icebreakers farming them with my Spike Ele.

Just take a party of Henchmen and head off to the Mighty Grawls. If you see one holding an IB, kill off everything around it as much as you can. Go back and slaughter your Hench party far away (I use the Imps near Ice caves). Kill the single Mighty Grawl carrying the IB and it's a guaranteed drop.

You can save lots of time by just running forward into the Grawl group to scan and see if one has it

From my experience a M.Grawl will carry one every 4-5 runs. Once I had 2 Grawls carrying it in one run ^_^

Nite_Creeper

Nite_Creeper

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Maryland

[LaZy]

D/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by unmatchedfury
what do you guys farm with? you all talk about heading off into the desert to farm. 55 monks? anyway does anyone know someplace good to farm for a echo vengful was khanei ritulist? i can't go anywhere in kaineig city ( i get freakin nuked to death) as a matter of fact almost everywere in factions is super hard to solo as compared to teh desert where i am able to solo most mobs.

sigh.. i wish GW wasn't so damn team orriented and we could get out and explore more wih out sharing with dunderhead hench. I echo Vengefull farm in Arborstone Explorable for Wardens and the Yetis outside Fort Aspewood. Arborstone is great for getting tons of Tanned hides to sell, Yeti's almost always drop a superior rune every run.

As for the topic, no solo farming hasnt been nerfed. The anti farming code is just causing your drops to decrease. What you need to do is just find a new place to farm each week, and slowly farm it and/or another spot.
If you just kill 1 boss several times, then do a mission and come back, the anti-farming code is still gonna be in affect for that area. Meaning you need to farm one spot till drops suck, then go to a completely new spot for a while.

And there really isnt a reason to complain if your green farming. Consider the fact there is a green item economy(unlike just regular gold farming and merchantising drops), if you get tons of greens the prices drop, if you get less greens, just raise the price to compensate your so called "losses". If the prices dont go up, then apparently you just have bad luck and everyone else is getting tons of drops.

majoho

majoho

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Denmark

There should be a sticky called "Farming has not been nerfed" since there's always someone that feels it is, even when it isn't.

I suggest the sticky stays up until Farming might actually be nerfed.

*sigh*

zadinos

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

W/N

I noticed to some difficulties with greens too. Before i could go with some bots in Surrows and get many greens but now it seems imposible. Like they nerfed farming with bots.

I farm alot and if anyone wonne join you are welcome. iI dont have problems going in groups either.

Maybe we can learn som from each other.

sky the unstopable

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

radicals agianst tyrants

R/Mo

ive been trying to farm the forest (FoW) with my ranger. i generaly RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO up but make it half way and get one shard every couple runs to play for going back in. once i was able to compleatly clear the forest i got 3 shards that time, 3 the next now i cant find a shard drop to save my life. its sad, my friends tell me that guildwars wants me to be socail. this is funny cause i was chatting with my friend as i was solo farming. it was nice to figure out a build that would let me solo farm then figure out how to do it well. now its barely profitable.

foody

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

PA

W/

This Has Nothing To Do With Anti Farming Code.

pork soldier

pork soldier

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by rhYmedizzle
when more people farm in an area it hurts ur drops, thats why mountain trolls dont drop anything good very often, cause every is pwr lvling there. just try one spot for a few times, if it doesnt work, move on to another spot or do something else. Wrong.

ReikoNagase

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

From my observation, i believe that anet try to nerf player from farming the same item at the same place with the same members. When i first figure out a way to farm sunreach with 2 accounts. I got like 3 sunreach shield, 3 arbor staff, 3 kryil staff and like 8 falaharn split daggers in 3 hours. Then, i do the same thing at the same place with the same accounts on the others day, i later found that the drop is decreasing and finally no greens drop for me at all after 20 runs.

So, i tried to add in a SS to speed up the farming. Later i found that 1 map only got 1 green per run. This was what i assume. But later my fren told me that this is wrong. If you are going with a 3 man group, you always get 1 -2 greens at most. He went out farming with a full group and he said they got 3 greens drop. So, i believe that anet like more ppl to farm together.

So later, i tried to teach my 2 man sunreach farming to others by adding 6 members and ask them to do nothing. guess what? I got like 3 Sunreach shield drop for me on that day. Impressive rite? so what is my conclusion here............?


Try to add in some new members to your old farming party to get more greens drop especially those who never farm that place b4.

Trader of Secrets

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

I solo Rajazan Fervor and Ghial and have been getting 1 or 2 every other day. Usually I do 5 runs once I log on and then other stuff for the rest of the day.

Also I have a question about the farm code. If you farm a spots and the drops get crappy, instead of doing other things besides farming with the SAME character can u play with your OTHER characters to wear off the farm code.