What is an Assassin supposed to do other than tank?

My theory, judging from the energy cost and recharge time of the most potent assassin skills, is that Anet purposely designed the assassin to deliver one massive payload of damage and conditions to a single target. Naturally, if the the assassin could do this at will, there would be some huge balancing issues, hence the 10+ second recharge on all of our most beloved skills. Quoted for truth, very well worded nori nori.

they need to give sin wider shadow stepping range. Maybe not as much as before the nerf, but should at least cover more area than now. as of right now, there isn't much point to shadow stepping except AoD.
With viper or hearts, more often than not i end up in a worst situation this is why I quit Shadow step unless I need that for mission Short range and high recharge time). I use my Shadow art Atributes point on Healing (shadow art can't heal much and Shadow steps are over nerfed) so I run, and heal myself well. that ease the burden of monks . not only it ease on monk, in fact it also help monks by healing other party memeber or rez the dead allie when I can't attack the foes due to that it require long range attacker(ranger nuker...)

if you are A/Mo like me, make sure you cap Healing Burst. it helps

life sheath? healing burst?! ftw!
lol..

healing burst is a joke. life sheath is not a total answer to a sin who wants a little more activity and ability to manage damage.

How about actually getting on a sin ans spend an hr checking dmg taken class to class the sin take it hard just like a necro and the sin has added armour when attack.

its broke in two ways...the way they take dmg even at a far you can still be spiked...HARD. The other is their ability to shadow step.....recharges are rediculous unless you sacrifice the elite.

aside from that they are a decent class. must be played extremly smart with a decent group pugs with a sin are a pain in the butt. because the shadow step sucks on recharge time and shadow refuge can't do muchof heal. we choose to heal ot prot ourself with monk's skill, 3 hit can't really do much in damage to those lvl 28 foe, ( I bet you are more a PvP person) what can you do if you can't even finish your basic 3 hit combo before you have to run. where is the damage part of Assassin?

also those nausty AoE degens are really unpreventable by any of Assassin skill too. ( consider Titan, Undead, Ether Seal, ......) Way of Perfection, Shadow Refuge has nearly no help at all.

the attack of assassin is big but not that big, if you spend most of the time running arround and not dealing much damage, why people will take you in PvE

the armor of Assassin a a crap even with those +15 while attacking. not to mention other bonus should also be use in the armor

because the shadow step sucks on recharge time and shadow refuge can't do muchof heal. we choose to heal ot prot ourself with monk's skill, 3 hit can't really do much in damage to those lvl 28 foe, ( I bet you are more a PvP person) what can you do if you can't even finish your basic 3 hit combo before you have to run. where is the damage part of Assassin?

also those nausty AoE degens are really unpreventable by any of Assassin skill too. ( consider Titan, Undead, Ether Seal, ......) Way of Perfection, Shadow Refuge has nearly no help at all.

the attack of assassin is big but not that big, if you spend most of the time running arround and not dealing much damage, why people will take you in PvE

the armor of Assassin a a crap even with those +15 while attacking. not to mention other bonus should also be use in the armor I agree with you on the assassin armor is squat even at 70 with 15 while attacking.

However first off i am mostly PvE but fair well in both.

Secondly wheres my dmg? Hmmmmm......leaping mantis sting, jungle strike, twisting fangs. a standards combo at 15 dagger and 10 critical strike with the deep wound spike and a 4th skill of your choice and 3/4 of their hp (275-350dmg ) is gone in the first combo plus they are bleeding and get 2/3 healing with 20% less max hp.

the assassin needs 4-5 attack skills to truely do its job and in PvP. Against any decent foe you will not take your oponent down in 5 hits, a decent player will heal or be healed during that time.

you honestly sound like you play a sin as its stereo type ( tanking ) and this is not the proper way to play a sin.

I add life sheath to handle the bulk of spikes thrown my way as cheaply as possible,in doing so i can usually see my target drop select my next and work my way AROUND the agro not in it. This minimizes the dmg taken, allows me to play more active as an assassin and eliminates the casters 1 by 1 averaging 3-5 before i have to back out. Or in AB's this build allows you to run monk pressure heavily and endure it long enough for your team to do what they need to.

The only think i have issues with on this build is i cant take a wammo. lol. I can endure it but taking it is a several cycle battle.

Some call this a wammo build with an assassin primary.
Call it what you will as all builds it depends on how you play it. I have played long enough to know that the few flaws in a assassin is the way they take extensive dmg for its armour class with minimal ability to heal from that, and their lack of mobility outside of the elite.

and honestly the characters who compliment my build the most are the monks i was running with both in pvp and pve.

So life sheath is not a bad build its just to far outside the box for closed minds to even consider before they bash it.

What a pitty.

I agree with you on the assassin armor is squat even at 70 with 15 while attacking.

However first off i am mostly PvE but fair well in both.

Secondly wheres my dmg? Hmmmmm......leaping mantis sting, jungle strike, twisting fangs. a standards combo at 15 dagger and 10 critical strike with the deep wound spike and a 4th skill of your choice and 3/4 of their hp (275-350dmg ) is gone in the first combo plus they are bleeding and get 2/3 healing with 20% less max hp.

the assassin needs 4-5 attack skills to truely do its job and in PvP. Against any decent foe you will not take your oponent down in 5 hits, a decent player will heal or be healed during that time.

you honestly sound like you play a sin as its stereo type ( tanking ) and this is not the proper way to play a sin.

I add life sheath to handle the bulk of spikes thrown my way as cheaply as possible,in doing so i can usually see my target drop select my next and work my way AROUND the agro not in it. This minimizes the dmg taken, allows me to play more active as an assassin and eliminates the casters 1 by 1 averaging 3-5 before i have to back out. Or in AB's this build allows you to run monk pressure heavily and endure it long enough for your team to do what they need to.

The only think i have issues with on this build is i cant take a wammo. lol. I can endure it but taking it is a several cycle battle.

Some call this a wammo build with an assassin primary.
Call it what you will as all builds it depends on how you play it. I have played long enough to know that the few flaws in a assassin is the way they take extensive dmg for its armour class with minimal ability to heal from that, and their lack of mobility outside of the elite.

and honestly the characters who compliment my build the most are the monks i was running with both in pvp and pve.

So life sheath is not a bad build its just to far outside the box for close minds to even consider before they bash it.

What a pitty. thanks of the reply, to be hounest I don't tank and there is no way I can withstand much attack. , but accidents does happend during the game. take example the monk is too busy healing other party member or being chased arround while I lost health on the least likely situation that I become a target. not all member of group are skillful as you, ( I meet a lot of noobs, trust me I did) wehere healing is not available to me, this is the time that healing burst come in handy, or having Life sheath to prevent lost health.

Problem with life sheath is that it don't prevent degen at all.

In many case poison, disease, bleeding, hex and burning are the real killer.

Assassins are supposed to be in the front line, right? Then why do people tell me not to tank when i do go up there? True, we do die quickly, but what do you expect us to do? good god is that the logic that comes from assn players that dont know wat they're doing??!?! Wow if thats the reason why they all think they tank then i have a very simple answer to this

alot of ppl keep saying teleport in and then teleport/get out. Its a good advice and its very straight forward but if you tell it to someone who doesnt get the concept of "assassination" (which by the way is part of the professions name) then you mite as well be giving the meaning of life to a brick trying to be jupiter -_-

seriously if people like you cant understand get in and get out then my simple answer is this; wat do I expect YOU to do? {notice i said you and not you guys, i do not recognize people who cant grasp such an easy concept) I expect you to delete your sin, make a warrior, and stand in a mob of 100 for all i care. Still want to keep your sin because u want to look cool with body suits? Then stop shutting down your brain when u enter combat and actually follow the advice of in and out.

Meaning to my terminology:

Notice i refered to the assassin as assn when i mention people like you playing it, then calling it a sin when i refer to people not like you or to the profession in general.

Assn=assassins with a very bright future with the delete button
Sin=assassin profession and/or assassin players who can grasp the play style of assassin

Hope this terminology helps you out a bit

good god is that the logic that comes from assn players that dont know wat they're doing??!?! Wow if thats the reason why they all think they tank then i have a very simple answer to this

alot of ppl keep saying teleport in and then teleport/get out. Its a good advice and its very straight forward but if you tell it to someone who doesnt get the concept of "assassination" (which by the way is part of the professions name) then you mite as well be giving the meaning of life to a brick trying to be jupiter -_-

seriously if people like you cant understand get in and get out then my simple answer is this; wat do I expect YOU to do? {notice i said you and not you guys, i do not recognize people who cant grasp such an easy concept) I expect you to delete your sin, make a warrior, and stand in a mob of 100 for all i care. Still want to keep your sin because u want to look cool with body suits? Then stop shutting down your brain when u enter combat and actually follow the advice of in and out.

Meaning to my terminology:

Notice i refered to the assassin as assn when i mention people like you playing it, then calling it a sin when i refer to people not like you or to the profession in general.

Assn=assassins with a very bright future with the delete button
Sin=assassin profession and/or assassin players who can grasp the play style of assassin

Hope this terminology helps you out a bit God... how bout i'm new to factions? couldja get that into your thick skull?
WHY THE HELL DO U THINK I WOULD ASK THAT QUESTION IF I DIDN'T KNOW ABT THE ASSASSIN IN THE FIRST PLACE? It's not like i prefer a warrior, i don't know what else i would do. besides, i don't even have a warrior! so shut up and read the damn post before you talk any crap!

God... how bout i'm new to factions? couldja get that into your thick skull?
WHY THE HELL DO U THINK I WOULD ASK THAT QUESTION IF I DIDN'T KNOW ABT THE ASSASSIN IN THE FIRST PLACE? It's not like i prefer a warrior, i don't know what else i would do. besides, i don't even have a warrior! so shut up and read the damn post before you talk any crap! That turns to much into insults and flaming. Good to close this thread if everyone starts like this after that.