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Reza

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

The Fellowship Of The King [King]

31 Jul 2006 at 22:55 - 1

Kaineng center!!!
its crazy!!! ppl selling anything for 100k+XX ectos!!
its always like this: [WTS] ... 100k+XX ectos (no noobs, serious offers only!)
and when u take a closer look the ... thing is piece of crap!
i think ppl see someone selling a 15^50 req 8 for 100k+ectos and say "well mine is 14^50 req 12, if he selling for 100k+xx ectos i can sell for 100k+ (xx-5) ectos. fair enough!

"

and the no-noobs thing, is it new fashion? some guys even using that for selling things like materials or very common green items...

(sorry for bad english

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Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

31 Jul 2006 at 23:21 - 2

omg he discovered perf stuff

Crimson Ashwood

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Australia

Angels of Cthulhu

N/

31 Jul 2006 at 23:39 - 3

Mmm. Can't wait for the auction house, the value of most things will drop as it'll be easier to sell... depending on how it's set up.

It's hard for your average ZOMG I FOUND A GOLD player to know how much things are worth, hell, it's hard for me to know how much things are worth half the time, and I feel I've got my "ear to the ground" with the whole economy thing.

Like, girlfriend found a +5 Energy Plagueborn Hammer, max req8... and it's like, well... it's max, second best req you can expect... but, who wants energy on a hammer... maybe... someone? hehe...

I dunno. Just saying it's hard to know the value of stuff...

DFrost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Ultima Thule

Legacy of Echovald [Echo]

P/

01 Aug 2006 at 00:49 - 4

"No noob offers" usually equals "I want to get rich NOW. If you offer the fair market value for my piece of turd item, I shall retaliate by calling you a noob."

I haven't bothered doing any kind of offers to them in a good while.

RuPee

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Los Angeles, CA

[RoD]

Mo/

01 Aug 2006 at 00:54 - 5

the power of greed...

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

01 Aug 2006 at 00:54 - 6

Why do you think everyone who wants an item for actual use just buys the perfect stat item of desired skin with high req? Cheaper with exact same functionality. Let people pay 100k+ecto because it only makes me richer. >.>

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

01 Aug 2006 at 00:59 - 7

There are so many req. 8 15>50 Zodiac weapons out there yet people spend ALL day in Kaineng waiting for that 100k + XX ecto sale. I find "100k + XX ectos" quite rude because this person is just expecting you to offer a mass of your time and effort for one item. When you ask for an approximation the usual responseis "OFFER ME" or "OFFERT ME" from the more retarded traders.

The above post is correct. The 'No noobs' part is a way of intimidating the buyers so they won't dare suggest a low price otherwise they'll be faced with the 'noob' treatment.

In fact, asking for offers is probably the slowest method of trading (unless you're dealing with Crystalline/Dwarven weaps). You should set your boundaries and say something like 100k + 10 ectos and negotiate at around 10% of that price. Spamming WTS with no success doesn't get you richer but getting the trade over with and continuing your farming does.

There have been days when I've logged on at lunch time, went out for the day and returned at night to see the same name trying to sell that '15>50 super-duper low req. sundering bad-ass fugly axe of fortitude' as I did earlier. I've bought 7 FoW armours in my GW history and only sold one item over 50k.

Ishmaeel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

01 Aug 2006 at 01:07 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by DFrost

"No noob offers" usually equals "I want to get rich NOW. If you offer the fair market value for my piece of turd item, I shall retaliate by calling you a noob."

Poetry.

Well, the GW economy is run by thirteen-year-olds, so I have given up hope on getting rid of the stuff that is clogging up my inventory until some kind of auction/trade house is implemented. Sure, with it, the prices will plummet but I will finally be able to let go of my crappy golds and rest assured that they will not be the means by some full-time power-trader making 100K+XX ectos off my market-ignorant ass.

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

01 Aug 2006 at 01:13 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ishmaeel

Well, the GW economy is run by thirteen-year-olds,

Yes. They forget that an item is worth what someone is willing to pay for it - standard economics concept. The high-price strategy doesn't work well in Guild Wars as tempting as it is to implement it.

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

01 Aug 2006 at 01:35 - 10

Funny thing is collectors weapons and greens are always perfect yet people shell out 100K + ectos for weapons.

O wait, that's because of the SKINS.

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

01 Aug 2006 at 01:49 - 11

Yes, it is. It's not funny at all; it makes perfect sense, given that new rare-skinned weapons are the only thing to spend money on (save armor).

Van the Warrior

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

In Yak's Bend like always...

W/

01 Aug 2006 at 02:45 - 12

auctionhouse would be ftw

milias

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Defected back to America

Me/E

01 Aug 2006 at 03:32 - 13

In my experience people who post things like that are the ones posting in the local channel. If you trade exclusively in the trade channel, you see a lot less of this phenomenon.

Rahl

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Austin, Tx

Mmph Its [Good]

Mo/

01 Aug 2006 at 03:41 - 14

Locan channel is used for trading by (Korean?) farmers just chat spamming things are dumb prices, and its safest to simply ignore it completely.

Even if you get a "perfect" rare, don't expect to get a lot from it, or even a little. People usually only buy perfects for the skin, as mentioned before, so trying to sell your "perfect" Tyran skinned Cleaver for 100k just will not work at all. Unfortunately, not many people know this O,o.

Supply and demand... not much else.

Digital Bath

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Lords of Blood

W/Mo

01 Aug 2006 at 03:53 - 15

Hmm, well I still have my mini Prine Rurick with his mini FDS. I have been thinking of selling it for some absurd price, but remember I don't really need money >.> I just like having a lot of money <.<

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

01 Aug 2006 at 04:08 - 16

Thank the Ebayers.

M1h4iL

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Perth, Australia

01 Aug 2006 at 04:48 - 17

I would see these unrealistic prices, go off to do a misison, come 30 min later and see the same people spamming the same message, daam how boring is that.

Riceboi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

01 Aug 2006 at 05:20 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuPee

the power of greed...

It's the Power of Dreams... pfft

Doomlord_Slayermann

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

W/P

01 Aug 2006 at 06:54 - 19

Here's what you do to the "no n00b offers" guys:

Whisper them, asking them what they consider the highest possible n00b offer could be. If they give you a number, offer that number + 1 gold. If they don't give you a number, offer them 1 gold. When they call you a n00b, ask why they didn't give you a max n00b offer. If they still won't give a number, increase your bid to 2 gold and keep going until they start ignoring you.

tear

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

01 Aug 2006 at 07:11 - 20

i saw the same person in LA trying to sell a +15%^50 20/20 +30 req 8 jade longbow at 100k + 20 ectos for days
i only noticed because i had been selling a few things myself, including a similar bow (different mods), which i got either 15- or 20k for
a couple days later i was back selling some more things, and i saw them spamming the exact same line again
i whispered them to let them know it wasn't worth nearly as much and they were mean to me

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

01 Aug 2006 at 07:14 - 21

And that's why I quit trading in-game.

Anything I find that's less than 5k isn't worth my time. Anything that's more goes into storage and eventually on auctions on this site, when i'm not lazy.

Reza

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

The Fellowship Of The King [King]

01 Aug 2006 at 07:14 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doomlord_Slayermann

Here's what you do to the "no n00b offers" guys:

Whisper them, asking them what they consider the highest possible n00b offer could be. If they give you a number, offer that number + 1 gold. If they don't give you a number, offer them 1 gold. When they call you a n00b, ask why they didn't give you a max n00b offer. If they still won't give a number, increase your bid to 2 gold and keep going until they start ignoring you.

let me tell you what will happen after you offered 1 gold its 2 steps if the guy isnt a big jerk:

1. the guy calls you a n00b
2. he starts calling you names

if he is a real big jerk there will be a 3rd part:

3. u see something like " (your name) giving away free items, whisp him for more info"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahl

Even if you get a "perfect" rare, don't expect to get a lot from it, or even a little. People usually only buy perfects for the skin, as mentioned before, so trying to sell your "perfect" Tyran skinned Cleaver for 100k just will not work at all..

yeah thats my point! people in kaineng center have no idea what they doin!
they see someone buys zodiac 15^50 req 8 for alot money on guru auction house and think if 15^50 req 8 worths that much a 14^50 req 11 worths maybe a little less! (its perfection of 15^50 that makes rich people pay that much for it, 1 point less than perfect makes a big change in price)
or just cuz a zodiac gone for that price all other skins are going for same price too.
im glad that there are no such things in LA and droks yet

(atleast i didnt see any)

Doomlord_Slayermann

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

W/P

01 Aug 2006 at 07:25 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reza

let me tell you what will happen after you offered 1 gold its 2 steps if the guy isnt a big jerk:

1. the guy calls you a n00b
2. he starts calling you names

if he is a real big jerk there will be a 3rd part:

3. u see something like " (your name) giving away free items, whisp him for more info"

Of course he starts calling you names, and you politely keep adding 1 gold to your offer for each name he calls you. You have no idea how much polite ignorance can piss people off.

If you get to #3, whisper the jerk and offer him free stuff. That should set him off.

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

01 Aug 2006 at 10:41 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vahn Roi

Thank the Ebayers.

Yeah, the more 14 year-olds that spend their pocket money on gold, the more the economy floods with gold. Another standard economic concept: more money = inflation in a market.

I know Anet actively try to ban bots but Altrumm Ruins and Citadel Internation Districts are still flooded with bots saying "i love you", "/jump", "/excited".

I presume these are farming the gold that is sold.

Zubie

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Ireland

W/Mo

01 Aug 2006 at 10:56 - 25

One slight thing that pisses me off about trying to sell ingame (which I have done for about 5 items) is that people dont READ the line

e.g. I was selling a Mursaat skinned hornbow req 8 15^50 and after the description I had the price of 100K+30 ectos

EVERY person who expressed an intrest asked what was the price ... ahhh hello its up there on screen.

yerra .. anyway I sold it for 100K+20 ectos (biggest sale ever

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Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

01 Aug 2006 at 11:08 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doomlord_Slayermann

Of course he starts calling you names, and you politely keep adding 1 gold to your offer for each name he calls you. You have no idea how much polite ignorance can piss people off.

If you get to #3, whisper the jerk and offer him free stuff. That should set him off.

Actaully, just get your whole guild to whisper him annonymously, he'll deserve it :P

Quite often, GwG playes a big role on what the prices are, and looking at the prices of rare skin items on the trade forum, they are in and over the 100k limit^^.

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

01 Aug 2006 at 12:20 - 27

Its funny.Considering most of the skins you actually see look like shit.

Fellblades,Chaos axes,Zodiac Weapons,The Kanaxai weapons..They all look like ass,not to mention,they always have the same shitty mods,Fortitude and Sundering,which makes me Lmao constantly when people think they are the best mods in the game.

NinjaKai

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

Duality Of The Dragon

01 Aug 2006 at 12:25 - 28

I love annoying people like that. I will say i'll buy the item. Then say I changed my mind at the last minute. Oh how funny their stupid incoherant screaming is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theus

Its funny.Considering most of the skins you actually see look like shit.

Fellblades,Chaos axes,Zodiac Weapons,The Kanaxai weapons..They all look like ass,not to mention,they always have the same shitty mods,Fortitude and Sundering,which makes me Lmao constantly when people think they are the best mods in the game.

Take crystalline for example. Nice skin to me but i'll be damned if i'm paying for one. The joys of the pre-sear crystalline skinned long sword.

saradon wolf

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

01 Aug 2006 at 12:36 - 29

You think thats bad I saw some looking 100k +30 ectos to take people through the captered son quest

Dahl

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Ontario, Canada

Exalted Legionnaires [ExL]

01 Aug 2006 at 12:43 - 30

Every little 14 year old idiot thinks they can spend 1.5k on a chest and rip out 100k+20 ecto no matter what comes out of that chest. It's not as though other people can't do it too. By rights a perfect item shouldn't be much more than 50k, they come out of chests 1/3 of the time, unless i just have CRAZY luck. But especially zodiac stuff, holy moly, all perfects.

Ashleigh McMahon

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2005

North East England

WoTU[Warlords of the Underworld]

Mo/Me

01 Aug 2006 at 12:56 - 31

Hey

I'm 14 xD (But ofc i'm not like that, infact I only use street market when I HAVE to)... You can't really blame it on the teens, as I bet( well, infact I know) that the older players of guildwars also do this. Anyway, heres my opinion:

People ALWAYS seem to try to refer to guru. For example, I was trying to sell a Kanaxis Axe for 80k. This guy pmed me asking how much- I stated 80k. He said ZOMG YOU NOOB GURU SAYS 35K.

And I'm like wth? Wth did I do to deserve that insult, and why the hell do people always refer to under/over priced websites to satisfy them? I'm not saying there bad, I'm just saying prices fluxulate up and down alot, and a website can never be right. (And yes. Guru is wrong. Kanaxis axe definately isn't 30-40k.)

What i'm trying to say, is, that just because a website 'says' it's priced at something, doesn't mean everyone should go by that. Alot of people(and a big problem in my eyes) in the market today all follow strict-non negotiable price, just because 'they read it on a website'

Ashleigh

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

01 Aug 2006 at 13:21 - 32

14 year old moderator el oh el oh el oh el oh el oh el oh el.

Anyway..its sad.These people looking to buy axes for their sins and I offer them the exact same weapon in terms of mods for 1/2 and 1/3 of the price they are paying.

It's quite sad..the only item I ever spent a large sum of gold on was my +15%>50% Broadsword.Which was a skin that I wanted since it..you know..resembles a SWORD...Too bad you can't dye the cloth on the end of the Pommel.

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

01 Aug 2006 at 13:43 - 33

100k+xx Ecto noobs are people who dont have a clue what there item is worth or are greedy. They piss me off as usually there item is shit.

The offer me noobs I love to abuse.
Me: Price?
Offer Noob: Offer
Me: 30k
Offer Noob: Sure
Me: WTS: Item of Uberness 100k + 25 Ectos
Offer Noob: Zomg u %#&£&*$ noob!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There are complete idiots selling stuff in guild wars. Some sell way way overpriced and some sell way way cheap.

Same goes for selling. People ask you how much something is you give them a price and they say it isnt worth 300k more like 30k >.< Im usually left speachless after such encounters at their complete stupidity.

Occassionaly I like to spam incredibly rare stuff like nerfed items, perfect highly desirable items etc. Some random newb asks to see them then asks for a price and I say something like 5k when it is more like worth 500k and they turn me down making up an exuse like it hasnt got a perfect fortitude mod lol.

And to all those people saying perfect items should never cost more than 50k or 100k or whatever it wont work. When an item is highly desirable and there is low supply it will be worth alot e.g. 15>50 sephis axes.

Stop winging about perf items and hating on those who buy them. I like to own the best and nicest skins around and imperfect quite frankly wont do.

Reza

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

The Fellowship Of The King [King]

01 Aug 2006 at 15:14 - 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashleigh McMahon

And I'm like wth? Wth did I do to deserve that insult

dont be sad, jerks insult people for very smaller things than this, they just like to run around and calleveryone noob

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Herbalizer

The offer me noobs I love to abuse.
Me: Price?
Offer Noob: Offer
Me: 30k
Offer Noob: Sure
Me: WTS: Item of Uberness 100k + 25 Ectos
Offer Noob: Zomg u %#&£&*$ noob!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMG this guy is scamming! someone call anet!

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Herbalizer

And to all those people saying perfect items should never cost more than 50k or 100k or whatever it wont work. When an item is highly desirable and there is low supply it will be worth alot e.g. 15>50 sephis axes.

Stop winging about perf items and hating on those who buy them. I like to own the best and nicest skins around and imperfect quite frankly wont do.

i agree, but u need to inform people in kaineng center what is "highly desirable" and what isnt

when someone says: "WTS victos blade (no noobs)" i read it like "WTS victos blade (dont even think about whisping me if u gonna offer less than 100k)" now even if im intrested in buying a victos blade which i know worths bout 5-6k these days i dont whisper this guy! it just makes your item impossible to sell when u say such things!

eternal pho

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Licious Fame Farmers {TLG}

W/E

01 Aug 2006 at 16:04 - 35

Ok, it seems that those " WTS *** for 100k+ XXectos " people have forgotten that there're some accurate threads in the trade forum that can value your rares/mods.

Doomlord_Slayermann

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

W/P

01 Aug 2006 at 16:06 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by eternal pho

Ok, it seems that those " WTS *** for 100k+ XXectos " people have forgotten that there're some accurate threads in the trade forum that can value your rares/mods.

Or they don't know what a forums is.

T Lo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Almightier [fo]

N/Mo

01 Aug 2006 at 18:00 - 37

You know, I just realized...

when and if they implement an auction house, it won't remove trade spam because it will probably only handle transactions in gold.

NinjaKai

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

Duality Of The Dragon

01 Aug 2006 at 18:06 - 38

You can get any great looking skinned item for cheap if you just want the skin. Got myself a gemstone axe for 4k. Max damage with some decent mods I can use. If your smart then you can get what you want on a very low budget. As for stats I just bet the collectors versions or cheap greens.

I tried buying a fleshweaver which I know is about 10k. Some idiot tried to stiff me by saying it was 70k. XD Like i'd fall for that.

Underworld Calling

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

[KISS]

N/

01 Aug 2006 at 18:15 - 39

The funny thing is that there is so many people who know how to price check, yet people don't use them. There is a whole forum on price checking on guru...

Maybe before people sell they should ask somebody, be it a guildie or somone in the alliance, or an experienced friend...

And, yes, people want their favorite skins for their weapons (what else are they gonna buy with all their Ebay gold?)

and to the people who haven't bought a single gold piece off Ebay, when you get that perfect weapon with the perfect skin, you can smile and know you're special

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

01 Aug 2006 at 18:16 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by T Lo

You know, I just realized...

when and if they implement an auction house, it won't remove trade spam because it will probably only handle transactions in gold.

oo yeah

never thought of that