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Reza

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

The Fellowship Of The King [King]

01 Aug 2006 at 16:04 - 1

i was playing some HA before factions release, and i had 16 fame then i left HA when factions released.
but last week i gone to do some HA again, i was standing in home dist 1 looking for a party and all i could find was some randome teams with like 4 W/Mo and/or MMs and such things... so i said to myself lets try int dists. i gone there and the first thing i saw was:

Forming rank 9+ iway. show emote under bridge!

what? what? WHAT? rank 9+ iway? arent u the same people who were calling iway noob and stuff? but it wasnt only that one! all teams in int dist are iway!
there is none in home dist cuz they all looking for iways in int dist!

i dont wanna say iway is noob (cuz i really think it isnt) and im not a pro pvper who can easily win against iways (i only had 1 of my 16 victories against iway :P )but i dont care about loosing to iway, people can do any build they like , i just wanna have some fun, c'mon guys this is boring to do same thing over and over again...

i have to wait about 1 hour to find or make an acceptable unranked team and then go in fight loose first match and everyone leaves, so i have to wait another 1 hour...

im just saying pls dont do iway cuz i want to find a team and i dont wanna play iway! do other things some times for a little more fun

and dont tell me to join a pvp guild im not a real pvper to join a pvp guild, im a more pver but i want to enjoy pvp too

and maybe get a mighty hero title after 1 year :P

(sorry for bad english :P)

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

01 Aug 2006 at 17:30 - 2

It's true, and sad to see rank 6-10 Iwayers. I could understand iwaying to rank 3 but to keep on going, gg.

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

01 Aug 2006 at 17:41 - 3

Rank 9 IWAY? How long does THAT take?

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

01 Aug 2006 at 18:20 - 4

You shouldn't generalise but I can see your point ~~

Crimson Ashwood

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Australia

Angels of Cthulhu

N/

02 Aug 2006 at 00:28 - 5

As with all things in life, people cling to what works until it stops working. iWay works and people getting pissy at iWay (not that you are, but people do) makes it all the more fun for people, getting on the opposing teams nerves.

There are a lot of should's and shouldn'ts... but it all boils down to what's effective...

Such as people in the lvl 1 - 10 arenas with elite skills, droks/15k armor and max gold weapons... an example of shouldn't, but is now the norm... (and people complain about locked gates in Factions, lol).

art_

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

02 Aug 2006 at 00:39 - 6

Just trash talk the r9+ iways each you wtfpwn them.

Make them not enjoy the game.

tomcruisejr

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

02 Aug 2006 at 00:54 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reza

what? what? WHAT? rank 9+ iway? arent u the same people who were calling iway noob and stuff? but it wasnt only that one! all teams in int dist are iway!
there is none in home dist cuz they all looking for iways in int dist!

i remember before that international district 1 was off limits to iway. all iwayers converge to american district 1 to form groups.

i also still remember the insults that were thrown at us in ID1 months ago. now any iwayer can form a group in id1 without that much hate from almost all the people in there.

Draco Hunt

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Netherlands

Resistance is Painfull[RiP]

A/Me

03 Aug 2006 at 00:47 - 8

Luckily we still have ViM teams

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

03 Aug 2006 at 18:24 - 9

which is why i quit tombs a long time ago.... as soon as everything became iway, iway, iway, occasional rspike, iway iway then bloodspike, bloodspike, bloodspike, halls which would be bloodspike vs migrane vs iway vs us.......

QuietWanderer

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Droknar's Dragon Legion

Mo/W

03 Aug 2006 at 18:36 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco Hunt

Luckily we still have ViM teams

Why is that lucky? They're both cheesy builds that fall quite easily to henchway.

The truth itself

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

First Degree

Mo/

03 Aug 2006 at 19:10 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuietWanderer

Why is that lucky? They're both cheesy builds that fall quite easily to henchway.

Oh the irony.

Bane of Worlds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Meadow

Rt/

03 Aug 2006 at 19:19 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by art_

Just trash talk the r9+ iways each you wtfpwn them.

Make them not enjoy the game.

that's the spirit!!! XD

make them feel pain

EagleEye33

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

In a House...duh

Untouchable Heroes

R/E

03 Aug 2006 at 19:22 - 13

So the nightfall PvP event didnt help in finding new builds bring back trying something new (if there ever was). Wow im shocked.

Sadly to say you will most likely have to join a guild to get a decent group for HA without having to deal with Iway show me emote under bridge BS. Not saying you have to join a PvP guild, there are some that like to do both.

I would continue a search for one of those, seeingas how you wait an hour for a game :P

The Real Roy Keane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Dublin, Ireland

03 Aug 2006 at 22:12 - 14

A rant about IWAY and the rank system all in one post. Old news, I'm afraid.

The truth itself

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

First Degree

Mo/

03 Aug 2006 at 22:19 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Real Roy Keane

A rant about IWAY and the rank system all in one post. Old news, I'm afraid.

Even an old problem is still a problem, also an old problem is defined as a problem that haven't been sought to fix.

Riken Chrono

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

around the corner and up the block

Hero

03 Aug 2006 at 23:20 - 16

New build for HA. 4 sets of Duo SB roflmao gg.

Clinically Proven

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Australia

[MMAD]

04 Aug 2006 at 00:05 - 17

Warrior/Rangers should be banned from ID1...

Caethas Turan

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

Auckland, New Zealand

Reapers of Oblivion [Ruin]

04 Aug 2006 at 00:33 - 18

Very proud of my rank 3 near 4 without ever doing iway .... -grins-

But iway sucks and r9 teams aren't that great either.

Venice Queen

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Washington, DC

A Most Excellent Guild [DUDE]

Mo/Me

04 Aug 2006 at 00:49 - 19

Henchway ftw...

yesitsrob

Elite Guru

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

SMS/Victrix

04 Aug 2006 at 00:53 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by art_

Just trash talk the r9+ iways each you wtfpwn them.

Make them not enjoy the game.

lol

"learn to play f(*&(*& morons", yes, that is still in my memory. And despite you doing it they still get about 400 fame a day, so I'm pretty sure they enjoy the game

.

blah blah rank discrimination, why people do it? Because probably... in HA, there's probably about an 85% chance a rank 9 player will suck awfully, and about a 95% chance a rank 3 player will... especially at monking, pick up HA monks are just danger. Needless to say with such percentages - which I made up, but I stand by them, I hate HA pick ups

Cador

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Relax Its Just A [GAME]

R/E

04 Aug 2006 at 03:23 - 21

First of all Iway gets pwned by 3 gimmick builds and 2 original builds ive used

Ive destroyed R10 IWay yes R10 with Bspike, another good one is NR/tranq, and Tri smite demolish iway 1 2 3 poof gone. If you really want rank do as someone in another thread stated pug and everytime u see someone do something right ask to add to friends. Be pleasant, or learn to call a good-decent Bspike.

tomcruisejr

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

04 Aug 2006 at 03:26 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cador

First of all Iway gets pwned by 3 gimmick builds and 2 original builds ive used

Ive destroyed R10 IWay yes R10 with Bspike, another good one is NR/tranq, and Tri smite demolish iway 1 2 3 poof gone. If you really want rank do as someone in another thread stated pug and everytime u see someone do something right ask to add to friends. Be pleasant, or learn to call a good-decent Bspike.

yea, iway can get pwned by eoe bomb too.

everybody knows that iway isnt invincible.

Yunas Ele

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

E/

04 Aug 2006 at 03:54 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by art_

Just trash talk the r9+ iways each you wtfpwn them.

Make them not enjoy the game.

And that accomplishes what? Trash talk us all you want but we're still going to play and enjoy the game. Don't like it? Don't play HA then.

Caethas Turan

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

Auckland, New Zealand

Reapers of Oblivion [Ruin]

04 Aug 2006 at 04:42 - 24

A good idea .. would be ask all the iwayers to play a different build

I've gone against so many iwayers, and all it is really is pressure ... and trust me I hate calling against them because all I target is freaking pets!!!

-lol-

Oh hiyas Yunas!

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

04 Aug 2006 at 06:43 - 25

rank +6 or +9 are often no different from lower ranked people. Really I think it annoying trying to get in HA groups just because of these high rank teams

shardfenix

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Il Power Overwhelming Il [HaX]

04 Aug 2006 at 09:56 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reza

Forming rank 9+ iway. show emote under bridge!

A small note to all the iway players out there.

RANK DOESNT MATTER IF YOU SUCK

That is all. Have a nice day fame farming instead of learning how to be good at things that don't require C + spacebar.

Guardian Rohan

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

[MEEP] -SMS alliance

A/

04 Aug 2006 at 10:15 - 27

Dont forget
T + Spacebar + 1 + 2 +3
And the ever so lovely

Spike this Target
3
2
1
WTF late spike wtfomgrage

Cowboy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Cornerstone [CRNR]

04 Aug 2006 at 10:20 - 28

Hmm, maybe I don't tomb often enough, but I really have no problem with IWAY. Some of the more accepted builds out there seem more braindead then IWAY.

I even like playing IWAY from time to time, although I couldn't stand playing it for hours on end. The builds' lack of tactical options gets a bit boring after a while.

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

04 Aug 2006 at 11:18 - 29

Who actually gives a shit?

Rank no longer has any meaning.

myword

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Korea

04 Aug 2006 at 11:29 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinger314

Rank 9 IWAY? How long does THAT take?

i'd estimate, less than it would take for a player to farm enough gold/materials for a set of obsidian armor

it's just another form of farming for them.

Divinus Stella

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Wales

Steel Phoenix

04 Aug 2006 at 12:25 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by myword

i'd estimate, less than it would take for a player to farm enough gold/materials for a set of obsidian armor

it's just another form of farming for them.

Sad but true.

Reza

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

The Fellowship Of The King [King]

04 Aug 2006 at 12:45 - 32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guardian Rohan

Dont forget
T + Spacebar + 1 + 2 +3
And the ever so lovely

Spike this Target
3
2
1
WTF late spike wtfomgrage

ROFL!!
u should post that as a new thread to make sure none miss it!

T + spacebar + 1 + 3 + 2 and you will loose the match!

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

A/

04 Aug 2006 at 12:51 - 33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reza

i was playing some HA before factions release, and i had 16 fame then i left HA when factions released.
but last week i gone to do some HA again, i was standing in home dist 1 looking for a party and all i could find was some randome teams with like 4 W/Mo and/or MMs and such things... so i said to myself lets try int dists. i gone there and the first thing i saw was:

Forming rank 9+ iway. show emote under bridge!

what? what? WHAT? rank 9+ iway? arent u the same people who were calling iway noob and stuff? but it wasnt only that one! all teams in int dist are iway!
there is none in home dist cuz they all looking for iways in int dist!

i dont wanna say iway is noob (cuz i really think it isnt) and im not a pro pvper who can easily win against iways (i only had 1 of my 16 victories against iway :P )but i dont care about loosing to iway, people can do any build they like , i just wanna have some fun, c'mon guys this is boring to do same thing over and over again...

i have to wait about 1 hour to find or make an acceptable unranked team and then go in fight loose first match and everyone leaves, so i have to wait another 1 hour...

im just saying pls dont do iway cuz i want to find a team and i dont wanna play iway! do other things some times for a little more fun

and dont tell me to join a pvp guild im not a real pvper to join a pvp guild, im a more pver but i want to enjoy pvp too

and maybe get a mighty hero title after 1 year :P

(sorry for bad english :P)

Those rank 9 iwayers are not the rank 9's and other good players who despide IWAY. The rank 9 iwayers are those who got every rank through iway, and nothing else. Let them play balanced..and they'll go like ' voice communication wtf! "

Jade_Onyx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Montreal

TSK

04 Aug 2006 at 13:05 - 34

What I hate is whenever I say anything that goes AGAINST what an iwayer thinks, all I get is "Whats your rank??" So I emote, out comes the tiger and what does he say..."OMG IWAY Noob, stop getting fame from iway pretending that your good"...ya...3 fame is from iway, that was from a group of guildies waiting for gvg, and we were all hammer (bunny thumpage) wars with battle rage.

Amity and Truth

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

W/N

04 Aug 2006 at 14:21 - 35

Well, well...
I once had a discussion with a friend about PVP. He was new to the game, like me a former First Person Shooter Fan and asked me what the different forms of PVP were. I gave him the following answer and in all honesty, i'm still living up to that.

"Well, there is Random Arena. It's basically Counter-Strike on Publics. You get every single one of the lamers, you'll learn new insults with each growing PVP hour. It's good ot have some fun owning morons. Nothing more."

"Then there is Team Arena. It's Quake 3 on a Public. You'll get the occasional "gg" but unless you're allready part of the community or know someone you'll have a hard time to get into any "clan" there."

"Oh and there is Alliance Battles. Alliance Battles are like Natural Selection. Great concept on paper, but once the average Lamer Community finds out about it, it goes down the drain. So it did. Prepare to feel like the only semi intelligent being on the world - and then feel stupid for even having thought about Aliance Battles"

"Tombs, aka Heroes Ascent. Oh boy. You think Counter-Strike on a Public is bad? Tombs are worse. It's like throwing the worst of the worst scum into one pot. Tell them they're awesome and professional gamers. Mix some Bugs, Exploits and possible Cheats into the mix and you've got Heroes Ascent. One large ugly pot of egos large enough to fit a fricking Borg Cube in it, but all that is in there are 2 braincells playing "Catch me". Yep, it is that bad."

"And finally, there is GVG. Team Fortress. It's fun, it's fair and you allways get your GG out of it. That is unless some Adminmod plays around with the ruleset. As in freezing the ladder or changing the game so Gimmick Builds get more powerful"

Sadly the state of PVP in Guildwars ,and that is even though it is meant as THE argument FOR Guildwars, has degraded into the worst nightmare. No monthly fee, plus opportunities to instantly notice newcomers and discrimnate (stupid, stupid rank system, its intention was great, but the result has a really bad influence on the community), no actions taken against harassment or active griefing, and a hint of "Pro Gamer" Flair by throwing in prizes for winning in PVP.

Jade_Onyx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Montreal

TSK

04 Aug 2006 at 14:28 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amity and Truth

Well, well...
I once had a discussion with a friend about PVP. He was new to the game, like me a former First Person Shooter Fan and asked me what the different forms of PVP were. I gave him the following answer and in all honesty, i'm still living up to that.

"Well, there is Random Arena. It's basically Counter-Strike on Publics. You get every single one of the lamers, you'll learn new insults with each growing PVP hour. It's good ot have some fun owning morons. Nothing more."

"Then there is Team Arena. It's Quake 3 on a Public. You'll get the occasional "gg" but unless you're allready part of the community or know someone you'll have a hard time to get into any "clan" there."

"Oh and there is Alliance Battles. Alliance Battles are like Natural Selection. Great concept on paper, but once the average Lamer Community finds out about it, it goes down the drain. So it did. Prepare to feel like the only semi intelligent being on the world - and then feel stupid for even having fought about Aliance Battles"

"Tombs, aka Heroes Ascent. Oh boy. You think Counter-Strike on a Public is bad? Tombs are worse. It's like throwing the worst of the worst scum into one pot. Tell them they're awesome and professional gamers. Mix some Bugs, Exploits and possible Cheats into the mix and you've got Heroes Ascent. One large ugly pot of egos large enough to fit a fricking Borg Cube in it, but all that is in there are 2 braincells playing "Catch me". Yet, it is that bad."

"And finally, there is GVG. Team Fortress. It's fun, it's fair and you allways get your GG out of it. That is unless some Adminmod plays around with the ruleset. As in freezing the ladder or changing the game so Gimmick Builds get more powerful"

Sadly the state of PVP in Guildwars ,and that is even though it is meant as THE argument FOR Guildwars, has degraded into the worst nightmare. No monthly fee, plus opportunities to instantly notice newcomers and discrimnate (stupid, stupid rank system, its intention was great, but the result has a really bad influence on the community), no actions taken against harassment or active griefing, and a hint of "Pro Gamer" Flair by throwing in prizes for winning in PVP.

Don't forget having to spend 5 minutes chasing down the last member every 5 matches or so in RA...

yesitsrob

Elite Guru

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

SMS/Victrix

04 Aug 2006 at 14:36 - 37

Quote:

Hmm, maybe I don't tomb often enough, but I really have no problem with IWAY. Some of the more accepted builds out there seem more braindead then IWAY.

They are, like necro spike, and ranger spike.. with the exception of the caller. It's so easy - about the most difficult task you'll have is killing a spirit every now and then because that happens to be a bit more than "T + 1".

I also find it very ammusing that certain spikers in this post think IWAY is way below them and is for noobs, when I've seen these so called skilled spikers playing balanced.

HA doesn't take skill... actually GVG barely takes skill with some of the builds people come up with.... So, actually, Guild Wars hasn't needed skill since they got rid of the Dodgeball Arena

tomcruisejr

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

04 Aug 2006 at 14:54 - 38

Quote:

Originally Posted by yesitsrob

They are, like necro spike, and ranger spike.. with the exception of the caller. It's so easy - about the most difficult task you'll have is killing a spirit every now and then because that happens to be a bit more than "T + 1".

I also find it very ammusing that certain spikers in this post think IWAY is way below them and is for noobs, when I've seen these so called skilled spikers playing balanced.

i dont find it amusing coz we all know that spiking is for noobs.

yesitsrob

Elite Guru

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

SMS/Victrix

04 Aug 2006 at 15:54 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomcruisejr

i dont find it amusing coz we all know that spiking is for noobs.

... right, but so is iway

i just don't think it's any worse than all-out spiking

And I don't believe people that iway, blood spike, ranger spike. whatever spike their fame or ladder position are in any position to be calling other people noobs

tomcruisejr

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

04 Aug 2006 at 17:00 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by yesitsrob

... right, but so is iway

i just don't think it's any worse than all-out spiking

And I don't believe people that iway, blood spike, ranger spike. whatever spike their fame or ladder position are in any position to be calling other people noobs

iway, whatever(slap any class here) spike, smite, vim etc belong to the same category and of course there's the lesser and greater noobs within that category. :P