so, Mo and /Mo dont need rez sig? since when?

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Monks don't need a res of any kind in playing GvG and HA they can use them in TA and RA you might want to read my thread Tips on Monks ressing.

Rez sig is the difference between having mend conditions or not on a boon prot build, I guarantee you mend condition is gonna save more than one life than rez sig will rez. Not to mention in the 3 seconds your casting rez sig if the other team doesn't eat you they will eat somebody on the team, making your rez sig worthless and detrimental.

@ snipious : i read the whole thread i just said i got bored ... thats why it is you are asuming things ..

@ holden : yes thats the point ! But you and i and everyone else whos not a bot is human ...more or less, wich leads to a matter of fact to reflexes, coordination and motorics question.

Sometimes you just wont be quick enough you now ...if you are, then you are a great monk sir and i bow before you .

But i know that its not always the monks fault when people die ( player characters of course ..wanna be very specific with snipious on my back here)

So when you or someone else screws up and somehow you are playing randoms at the moment ... i let the Ta/Ha slide now cause that was clearly specified as an environment for diffrent style of play I asume and backup with personal experience that it could be wise to bring a rez signet.

If you of course choose not to its your right no one is denying you of. But as stated above one can omit a important skill when dealing with randoms ...

@ TadaceAce: why mend condition and not for example Prot Spirit or some other skill ?

Age you just summed that up for me a bit ... i hope more of you will understand or at least take into consideration.

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Monks do not have room on their skillbars for res. You argue this by saying that other classes shouldn't have to use their 8th skill slot on res. The thing is, other classes can function fine with seven skills. Look at the decent non-monk builds which have seven skills + res. Would they work better if the 8th skill was something else? Of course, but a res is much more effective in the long run than, say, another attack skill. For a Monk, every skill has its place, and chances are, the Monk skill which res replaces will save a teammate more times than a res sig will.

As for comparing PvP Monking to PvE Monking, you can get away with running junk like Healing Breeze in PvE, as well as having no energy management or no condition/hex removal. In short, there is no comparison. But, if you want specifics about res in PvE, usually a Monk in PvP would run a self-defense skill, namely Contemplation of Purity, Distortion, Hex Breaker or Dark Escape. In PvE, you don't need this so you can replace it with a res.

Think of it this way: What would a monk use more? A rez or a monk healing/protection/whatever skill?

Over the course of a battle a monk will get a lot more use out of that one monk skill than he would get out of a single rez sig. How many times will the monk save his teammates' lives with that condition remover or that heal other? While the rez sig will only bring back a single teammate once...with DP.

This doesnt apply to other classes because Monks are the exception here since they're the most important class in the game.

EDIT: Damn...Luxa sort of said what I was saying too.

Double Edit: Heck, several of you posted the same points I was making. Good job guys.

k, got bored after first page of this but I'd just like to add (may have already been said) that if it comes to the stage where your monk has to start rezzing then your offense sucks and the team should just disband anyway.

Let's end this...

Classic boon prot build for 4v4 PvP:

-Reversal of Fortune
-Mend Condition
-Gaurdian
-signet of devotion
-Inspired Hex/Holy Veil
-CoP
-Mantra of Recall
-Divine Boon

RoF- the pithe of your healing.
Mend Condition-name says it all.
Gaurdian- Breaks up combo attacks and keeps you alive.
Signet of devotion-helps with edenial and helps w/ emanagement.
Inspired hex/Holy Veil-Diversion/emangement/removal of hexes.
CoP-Best way to removed hexes/conditions and self-heal.
Mantra of Recall-E management.
Divine boon- wouldn't be a boon prot monk without it.


Alright now, you tell me which skill you would remove and replace with Rez?

I dare you...

I think bringing a Rez sig to PvP is like bringing Heal Breeze in PvE. Its something most do in the beginning, but it's soon dropped in favor of something better.

Monk is always the priority target. As long as you are alive you are the one getting attacked 90% of the time. So you are either dead, or getting killed the entire time. That was why I graduated and switched out my Rez sig, I didn't see any point in bringing it if 90% of the time, I would not need it, much less be in a position to use it. So instead, I brought another skill that would be helping most of the time, and I'd always be in a position to use. So don't assume that the naysayers haven't 'tried it'. Where logic fails... experience will eventually win out. Whether you believe us now or not, you'll eventually come to the conclusion on your own.

The reason I said bring a res sig in RA and TA is that you don't really know your group well enough so in the event of them leaving.I alway take a res sig in in those places if I am playing a healing Monk and for the most part I only use 3 skills Orison,Word and Touch.I don't worry to much about poison or hexs I just keep them healed up.This can appy to HA as well if you are in a very bad pug.There are times when I think that these 3 pvp areas are worse than coop missions.

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Hahahaha, funniest.thread.ever. I havn't run with a res sig in my bar (as monk) since before Angry Businessmens and Dynasty Warriors were famous on the PvP scene!

"Alright alright, TIME OUT PEOPLE, everyone STOP THE GAME RIGHT NOW! Now, I need to take a four second break, during which I'm completely vulnerable to interrupts, unable to kite, unable to prot against adren spikes, with no way to heal or protect the rest of my team and pull off this res sig. So, if everyone could just pause the game for a minute, you know, scratch your nose or something... HEY, HEY YOU: THUMPER IN THE BACK! DON'T THINK I DIDN'T SEE YOU SNEAKING AROUND BACK THERE! Ah, good. Thanks guys. You're the best."

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^^^^

Hmmm.....

Well if so, I think I need to take a break from these boards -- starting to unravel my ability to read & reason.

Regardles, I am still anxiously awaiting someone to take up my challenge -- squeeze the rez skill on there please.
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