N/P twist on regular MM

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JoeKnowMo
JoeKnowMo
Jungle Guide
#1
An interesting idea might be an MM with a Paragon secondary.

Death Magic: 12 + 1 + 3
Soul Reaping: 8 + 1
Command: 10
Leadership: 0

Animate Flesh Golem {E}
Animate Bone Fiend
Verata's Sacrifice
Blood of the Master
Leader's Comfort
Rez Sig

Your choice of 2 of the following:

Fall Back - For 4-10 seconds, all allies within earshot gain 5-15 Health per second while moving and move 25% faster. "Fall back!" ends on an ally affected by this Shout when that ally successfully hits with an attack.

Go for the eyes - For 10 seconds, the next time each ally within earshot makes an attack, that attack has an additional 25-75% chance to be a critical hit.

Never surrender - For 10 seconds, all allies within earshot and below 50% Health, gain +1-8 Health regeneration.

Stand your ground - For 10-35 seconds, all allies within earshot receive +24 armor when not moving.

Leader's Comfort - You gain 15-75 Health. For each nearby ally, you also gain +10-20 Health (maximum 140 Health).

Minions doing critical hits, especially your Golem, due to Go For The Eyes will take down foes much faster. Minions gaining health while moving from Fall Back will reduce the healing burden on MMs when moving from one mob to another. Never Surrender can help minions low on health while Verata's Sacrifice is recharging. Stand your ground will help the minions tank better.

Leader's Comfort, since it's based on the Paragon primary attribute will only heal for 15 health if you're alone. However, with 7 others in your party and your minions, you should almost always get 100 + health from it.
Hella Good
Hella Good
Desert Nomad
#2
Minions aren't affected by "ally" skills, are they?
floppinghog
floppinghog
Wilds Pathfinder
#3
spirits work on minions.
Zinger314
Zinger314
Debbie Downer
#4
Minions are affected by "allies."

This is an interesting take on the MM.
Markaedw
Markaedw
Desert Nomad
#5
sounds interesting, my MMis going to have to try it out when nigtfallarrives.
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sigried
Lion's Arch Merchant
#6
i have to try this
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TadaceAce
Wilds Pathfinder
#7
Aotl > Flesh golem.
Horseman Of War
Horseman Of War
Desert Nomad
#8
it will be interesting to see how this plays out, youd think Anthem of Flame (if thats the right name...?) would be fun.

If it worked all your minions would do burning

You would think Anet would make this work, just for the coolness factor alone... if it doesnt work, its probably because it would be too powerful... Im sure someone in the company at some point said: "hey i have an idea... necro/para with minion shouting" to which someone either replied "yes" or "no"
JoeKnowMo
JoeKnowMo
Jungle Guide
#9
Quote:
Originally Posted by Horseman Of War
it will be interesting to see how this plays out, youd think Anthem of Flame (if thats the right name...?) would be fun.

If it worked all your minions would do burning

You would think Anet would make this work, just for the coolness factor alone... if it doesnt work, its probably because it would be too powerful... Im sure someone in the company at some point said: "hey i have an idea... necro/para with minion shouting" to which someone either replied "yes" or "no"
Anthem of Flame will only work for attack skills, not regular attacks, so your minions won't benefit from it If it worked for minions, I can only imagine the carnage. OMG the humanity
Hella Good
Hella Good
Desert Nomad
#10
You guys sure you can Shout Up your Minions? I mean it will be cool but- for some reason- it just doesn't seem like something ANet will allow. The regen/healing shouts would be cool. The extra armor stuff, too.
ubermancer
ubermancer
Jungle Guide
#11
And noone has mentioned Leader's Pride yet?

Or how with BotM using Echos on Pets is feasible?

Shame.
Wyldchild777
Wyldchild777
Academy Page
#12
Greetings,

When I saw the title of this thread, the first thing I thought of was, of course, my own minion master necro. I thought about the fact that I don't use any skills from my secondary when running minions. That's mainly because I don't really have time to do so, what with constantly raising minions to replace the lost ones and so on. This idea would be a fresh change up to the build. I look forward to playing with it.

And, to the OP: you might want to finalize a build along these lines and submit it to the builds directory for the necros. I haven't stopped by there lately, but I don't think this would have been posted yet. You have my applause for figuring out the skill synergies involved in this type of build.

Merry meet, merry met, merry meet again,
Wyldchild777
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My Sweet Revenga
Krytan Explorer
#13
Heh my necro got put on the backburner for the longest time. First char played in prophecies. Last char played in factions. I just started gettin the hang of being a n/mo mm and found it pretty easy to plow through pve while maintaining 10 minions at all times. If it is true that paragon shouts work on minions, wow this could change everything I've come to learn about being a mm.

I wonder which would be more effective at keeping minions alive longer though.... veratas sac + botm + 2 heal areas, or veratas + botm + paragon shouts. At the least, the paragon shouts will make the minions hit a lot harder.
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Talcimir
Ascalonian Squire
#14
I really wanted to try this too. Thanks OP for making more people at least "try" it. I've been thinking about it a lot, and I really dont think its going to be as efficiant as a N/Mo at MM.
Hella Good
Hella Good
Desert Nomad
#15
Well, it will add a fresh twist to MMs, if minions are really affected by Shouts but nothing about MM will truly change- MM will still be the easiest way to beat the game. I love how easy it is to roll through PvE with a Necro.
Arkantos
Arkantos
The Greatest
#16
Quote:
Originally Posted by TadaceAce
Aotl > Flesh golem.
And if you have a monk, FG > AotL.


Anyways, I'm gonna try this out when NF comes out. seems interesting.
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Silver_Fang
Lion's Arch Merchant
#17
Banishing Strike > all summoned
unholy guardian
unholy guardian
Jungle Guide
#18
sounds like a cool concept to me
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Trylo
Jungle Guide
#19
pshh... banishing strike will only be used in AB if anything...

Nice ideas, i might think about changed from wells/interupts/battery for this new idea... plus i need the paragon skill
Terra Xin
Terra Xin
Furnace Stoker
#20
Just wait until the new necromancer skills come out, you guys might change your minds :P