One character slot for merged accounts?

Phaern Majes

Phaern Majes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Anywhere but up

The Panserbjorne [ROAR]

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Aight, I may misunderstand the prerelease deal. But the way I'm understanding it is, if you buy just Nightfall without the prerelease, then you get only 1 slot (on a merged account?). If you buy the prerelease and Nightfall you get 2 slots on a merged account.

Now I dunno if I understand it right, so if I don't please do enlighten me. However, if this is the case I think it puts me in the position of being between a rock and a hard place. I know this was discussed with factions but 2 slots to me is worth merging, but only one? The prerelease is probalby going to be around 20$ or whatever. I'm not going to pay that for just 1 slot extra when I can pay 9.99$ for one slot extra.

The items and the other extra's aren't really needed. I never look at them more than once, and they just end up taking up room after that. My problem with not merging is I have 5 chars I've put alot of effort into and 2 more I'm working on. I'd hate for them to not have access to the new features. However I feel that if you release a game you should offer enough slots for people to try out all the proffesions without having to pay through the nose for it.

There is no real life 55 build and no real life UW I can just go farm cash in. I know other games are more costly in the long run, but GW is finding other ways to close the gap in that respect.

Dunno mostly just want to make sure I have it right before trying to decide what I'll do. And give others the chance to give their thoughts.

(by the way I did search the keywords "Nightfall character slot". Didn't get anything working.)

Kaguya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Moon

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Psft. I'll just rewrite the thing without editing it into a big hassle.

I'd assume the 'full release' of Nightfall would have 2 slots for merged accounts, and 4 for new accounts, and the pack that they announce is just that, "bonus pack". 1 extra slot, weapons and blaa. Pretty useless unless one wants all those bonuses, except if the bonus pack costs about the same as an extra slot would.

But whatabout pre-order Nightfall? Are those items included in it, or is there something else? o.x

gamemagus

gamemagus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Isle of Meditation

Xen of Onslaught

Mo/Me

Still confusing to many, I hope they clarify all this.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

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Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

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Basically...

The Nightfall pre-order pack will provide you with 1 extra character slot.

Most likely Nightfall itself will provide 2 slots like Factions did, if merged with an exisiting game.

So you will get 2 slots, or 3 slots if pre-order pack is opened.

Till A.net say otherwise this is what I'm going with, the rest of this dicussion is pure speculation.

Wyldchild777

Wyldchild777

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

State of Confusion

Lords Of The Dragons Dine [LORD]

Mo/Me

Greetings,

Maybe you missed it, but Alex Weekes responded to this same type of question over on the Guild Hall forums. There's a link to it from the Game and Dev Tracker section of these forums, in the thread titled "8/1 Alex Weekes: Bonus Slot? Or only one slot for Nightfall?".

In short, the preorder slot is a bonus for getting the preorder. The release version will still have the 4 slots unmerged / 2 slots merged thing. At least, that's the meaning I took away from his comment. Feel free to look for yourself and see if you come to the same conclusion. If not, this thread will still be here to further discuss it .

Merry meet, merry met, merry meet again,
Wyldchild777

Kai Nui

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8 slots? I barely use 3. Do people really play through this same game multiple times and turn into PVE noobs instead of doing PVP like the game was intended?

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

But you only need one PvP slot to PvP with... having any more is just for conveniance... something I dont mind spending time wasting.

-Old 3FL-

-Old 3FL-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

Western Australia.

Crystal Mountain [CM]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kai Nui
8 slots? I barely use 3. Do people really play through this same game multiple times and turn into PVE noobs instead of doing PVP like the game was intended?
yup
90% of players with fancy armors on multiple chars are pve adicts
they cant handle gvg.

Midnight08

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

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um http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10015995
there it is from the devs....

the prerelease slot is an extra one on top of the 2 from regular merge. making for 3 slots if you prerelease

Midnight08

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Cantha. DE

Xen of Onslaught (Alliance of Xen-AX)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kai Nui
8 slots? I barely use 3. Do people really play through this same game multiple times and turn into PVE noobs instead of doing PVP like the game was intended?
i REALLY hope that was just a bad attempt at trolling

sorry to tell you, but the game is made for both PvP AND PvE. Look at the developer chat about nightfall for proof. They said that that one was created to appease PvE players while Factions was for PvP players.

and some of us like me like to be able to have several different professions availible, and I personally dont like PvP only chars...

Spura

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phaern Majes
Aight, I may misunderstand the prerelease deal. But the way I'm understanding it is, if you buy just Nightfall without the prerelease, then you get only 1 slot (on a merged account?). If you buy the prerelease and Nightfall you get 2 slots on a merged account.

Now I dunno if I understand it right, so if I don't please do enlighten me. However, if this is the case I think it puts me in the position of being between a rock and a hard place. I know this was discussed with factions but 2 slots to me is worth merging, but only one? The prerelease is probalby going to be around 20$ or whatever. I'm not going to pay that for just 1 slot extra when I can pay 9.99$ for one slot extra.

The items and the other extra's aren't really needed. I never look at them more than once, and they just end up taking up room after that. My problem with not merging is I have 5 chars I've put alot of effort into and 2 more I'm working on. I'd hate for them to not have access to the new features. However I feel that if you release a game you should offer enough slots for people to try out all the proffesions without having to pay through the nose for it.

There is no real life 55 build and no real life UW I can just go farm cash in. I know other games are more costly in the long run, but GW is finding other ways to close the gap in that respect.

Dunno mostly just want to make sure I have it right before trying to decide what I'll do. And give others the chance to give their thoughts.

(by the way I did search the keywords "Nightfall character slot". Didn't get anything working.)
It has been said many times that merged accounts get 2 slots. And prerelease deal clearly says that you get "1 extra slot". Of course this doesn't mean you get 1 slot total, because that is less than 2 you would normally get, making it a crappy deal. As the word EXTRA hints this is an additional slot on top of what you normally get. Get some reading comprehesion plx.

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Midnight08
sorry to tell you, but the game is made for both PvP AND PvE. Look at the developer chat about nightfall for proof. They said that that one was created to appease PvE players while Factions was for PvP players.
I wonder if they will do as bad a job appeasing the PvE players with Nightfall as they did appeasing the PvP players with Factions.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

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Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by -Old 3FL-
yup
90% of players with fancy armors on multiple chars are pve adicts
they cant handle gvg.
Sorry but no, please don't troll the forums, it against the rules plain and simple.

I have 5 PvE characters and one free PvP reroll slot, I use 3 of my PvEs for both PvE AND PvP.

Its been stated before that is game is for both PvE and PvP. So don't tell us we don't know how to GvG.

With that said and done back on topic...

We will all get two extra slots, plus 1 extra if you have a pre-order key, end of.

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kai Nui
8 slots? I barely use 3. Do people really play through this same game multiple times and turn into PVE noobs instead of doing PVP like the game was intended?

D'oh! Where does it say that the game wasn't intended for PvE? Why do you jerks keep insisting that the game is for PvP and not PvE. Actually, the game was designed and rated for teens and older. Please, stop playing the game NOW as it is obvious you don't meet the minimum intelligence required to play.

Lord Aro

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Join Date: Jun 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by quickmonty
...Please, stop playing the game NOW as it is obvious you don't meet the minimum intelligence required to play.
I don't recall a minimum IQ requirement next to the age rating.


It normally doesn't matter how much a preorder [box] is to me, the stores I go to deduct that price from game when it's released. Or have done so in the past. If there will be 2 slots merge +1 slot from bonus, maybe I'll get it if any stores have it. Factions preorder boxes were never around.

Cjlr

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

SMS

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Aro
I don't recall a minimum IQ requirement next to the age rating.
That's not to say there shouldn't be...

ESRB Rated: IQ100+

frickett

frickett

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Shinigami Keys [SHIN]

R/Mo

Ok lets look at the fuzzy math again.
Nightfall only.
4*33.33%= 133%
If you merge it with an account that uses either Prophecies or Factions.
6*66.67%=399.9%
And if you have the complete amalgamation.
7*100% = 700%

This is one hundred percent better than the 600% we got when we merged our factions/prophecies account, and with only adding one slot. So why did i chose to represent what would happen with only one slot. 4 for prophecies, then 2 for factions, then 1 for Nightfall. You are getting access to more content.

Is this the way it is gonna work, I hope not, But i also hoped that we would have the full 4 slots for factions after merging.

I believe we will get two slots. I am planning for 2 slots.

NinjaKai

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

Duality Of The Dragon

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kai Nui
8 slots? I barely use 3. Do people really play through this same game multiple times and turn into PVE noobs instead of doing PVP like the game was intended?
Why do you people always have this opinion. "GW is for PvP" "GW is for PvE" your all so pretentious. Its been stated many times in the past GW is PvE as much as it is PvP. Geez do you think ANet go to all the effort to make PvE storylines, etc. If it was mainly PvP.

frickett

frickett

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Shinigami Keys [SHIN]

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kai Nui
8 slots? I barely use 3. Do people really play through this same game multiple times and turn into PVE noobs instead of doing PVP like the game was intended?
Stop saying that please. Why does everyone keep saying that the game was intended for pvp. Why call pve'ers noobs. We didn't do anything to you.

I am sure that PVP is fun. I am not very good at it, so it doesnt hold my attention for long. (well my inability as well as no drops). But it is still only half of the game. I hope that the day comes that both sides of this divide can show respect for eachother.

I think it is great that you like to pvp. I like to kill monsters, cap elites, open new locations, and such. We can both have fun in guild wars. That is why it is great.

Mister_Smiley

Mister_Smiley

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

the prerelease deal gets you 1 slot and Nightfall will give you 2. 1+2=3 that is what i understand. till Anet says something else i will leave it like that.

As for PvE and Pvp the game is made for both of those. Also rememeber that Nightfall was designed by the people that did Prophets which means it will be better then factions.

Propheys/night=Pve gamers

Factions/Next title=pvp gamers

That is my idea of how they set it up, but i could be TOTAL wrong.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by frickett
I believe we will get two slots. I am planning for 2 slots.
actually here is the official answer from ALEX WEEKES (NCSoft Europe)

note that he said slotS not slot and the pre release retail box adds another additional slot if purchased for 3 merged slots instead of 2.

Quote:
This is correct. The slot from the pre-release pack is a bonus slot. it is separate from the slots you get when you purchase Nightfall.

JoeKnowMo

JoeKnowMo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Wessst Siiide, USA

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kai Nui
8 slots? I barely use 3. Do people really play through this same game multiple times and turn into PVE noobs instead of doing PVP like the game was intended?
Heheh. Nothing like acting arrogant while putting your foot in your own mouth. Oh the irony

The Great Al

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

ALOA

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
actually here is the official answer from ALEX WEEKES (NCSoft Europe)

note that he said slotS not slot and the pre release retail box adds another additional slot if purchased for 3 merged slots instead of 2.
That is awesome! very surprising, especially now since anet is selling slots. Thanks!

Clone

Clone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

4+4=6
4*3=8 or 9
Come on. Its simple math people. There's nothing confusing here.</sarcasm>

Actually, I do have a serious question though. Will more than 1 preorder package net you more than one bonus character slot on one account? I got my Factions preorder for like $1 out of a clearance bin. If I could find preorder packs for cheaper than what they sell character slots for in the online store, would picking up more than one worth it?

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clone
4+4=6
4*3=8 or 9
Come on. Its simple math people. There's nothing confusing here.</sarcasm>

Actually, I do have a serious question though. Will more than 1 preorder package net you more than one bonus character slot on one account? I got my Factions preorder for like $1 out of a clearance bin. If I could find preorder packs for cheaper than what they sell character slots for in the online store, would picking up more than one worth it?
please note that this is not a preorder for the game.

it is a completely separate retail purchase

from GW

Quote:
ArenaNet® and NCsoft® today announced a brand new retail package which will soon give Guild Wars® players their first look inside the exciting upcoming release, Guild Wars NightfallTM
Quote:
The Guild Wars Nightfall Prerelease Bonus Pack is expected to hit store shelves on September 15

sigried

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Honduras

Ye Old

W/Mo

I have 10 slots of GW one for each class I made 2 necros that why i have 9 and i still have 1 PvP slot.

Most of my chars are level 20 4 of those are 100% profecies and 100% facions campains.

the rest are just factions i have to move them to tyria.

for some reason i dont consider my self noob on any profecion i made, but i can tell i have masterd the NECRO class, all the others id say im an expert.
OHH and i find more fun doing PvE than Pvp.

Midnight08

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
please note that this is not a preorder for the game.

it is a completely separate retail purchase

from GW

from gamestop - yes the link is back which means they now have permission to post


Link Here

Purchase Guild Wars: NightFall and receive the Bonus Pack that contains: Guild Wars "Play Now" key for a 10-hour/14-day trial of Guild Wars and Guild Wars Factions; Guild Wars Nightfall Bonus Key, providing one additional character slot for a Guild Wars Nightfall account, as well as two exclusive items for the new professions—a Firey Sunspear of Shelter for the Paragon and an Icy Soulbreaker of Enchanting for the Dervish; Mini strategy guide, concept art, screenshots, in-game renders of characters and items, preview trailer, wallpapers, lore, quick reference card, music, and more!

hmmm... so you get all that With the purchase of the game, only... u get it BEFORE the release???? OMG it looks strangely like a prerelease box to me (sorta like the 1 got with factions that gave me the cool weapons and such, and the (was it 1 or 2) day headstart)

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Midnight08

hmmm... so you get all that With the purchase of the game, only... u get it BEFORE the release???? OMG it looks strangely like a prerelease box to me (sorta like the 1 got with factions that gave me the cool weapons and such, and the (was it 1 or 2) day headstart)
it certainly does look like it and if it does turn out this way i will start cheering.

GW said sept 15 for release of it which would give an extra slot for the PVE weekend event as well.........hummm.

note that with gamestop and their bonuses at times you have to email them so they ship out the pre things at the right time instead all together

Wolfcp11

Wolfcp11

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

All those saying 4+4=6 and blah blah blah, look at it like this...

1.Guild Wars Base (available to all chapters)
-PvP continent, allowing all major forms of PvP
-Access to Warrior, Monk, Rangers, Elementalists, Necromancer, Mesmers
-Access to "Core" skill set
-2 Char slots

2.Prophecies (in addition to base)
-Acess to Tyrian continent for PvE
-Access to Prophecies skillset
-2 Char slots

3.Factions (in addition to base)
-Acess to Canthan Continent for PvE
-Access to Faction skill set
-Access to Assassains and Ritualists
-2 Char slots

4.Nightfall (in addition to base)
-Access to Elonian Continent for PvE
-Access to Nightfall skillset
-Access to Paragons and Dervishes
-2 Char slots

Rok

Rok

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Guild Wars

Looking at the product on Gamestop (and EBGames - apparently one of them bought out the other because the products are the same) - it says the PreRelease Bonus is included in your prerelease order for the game.

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=646706

And since the only real substance beyond previous preorder packages is the extra slot I will guess they decided to start calling it a prerelease package instead of preorder.

Additionally, the Press Release states you only get the bonus slot with your Nightfall account, so you won't get it before your Nightfall retail key is put in.

"Guild Wars Nightfall Bonus Key, providing one additional character slot for a Guild Wars Nightfall account"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfcp11
All those saying 4+4=6 and blah blah blah, look at it like this...

1.Guild Wars Base (available to all chapters)
-PvP continent, allowing all major forms of PvP
-Access to Warrior, Monk, Rangers, Elementalists, Necromancer, Mesmers
-Access to "Core" skill set
-2 Char slots

2.Prophecies (in addition to base)
-Acess to Tyrian continent for PvE
-Access to Prophecies skillset
-2 Char slots

3.Factions (in addition to base)
-Acess to Canthan Continent for PvE
-Access to Faction skill set
-Access to Assassains and Ritualists
-2 Char slots

4.Nightfall (in addition to base)
-Access to Elonian Continent for PvE
-Access to Nightfall skillset
-Access to Paragons and Dervishes
-2 Char slots
Anyone still btching about slots needs to go play out in the sun for a while to clear their heads. They set precedent for giving only 2 additional slots for 2 new professions, they gave you the option to buy more slots if you really want them - heck they are giving you a bonus slot if you buy the Nightfall Prerelease. Chill out.

Phaern Majes

Phaern Majes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Anywhere but up

The Panserbjorne [ROAR]

R/Mo

Well thanks for the replys and clarifying. I know I just did a quick search for threads like mine. Personally I just want 2 slots one for each new class. Other than that its all good :P

gene terrodon

gene terrodon

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Join Date: Jul 2006

Maryland/DC Area

Farmers Unite [FU]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by -Old 3FL-
yup
90% of players with fancy armors on multiple chars are pve adicts
they cant handle gvg.
Well, using a PvE character has several distinct advantages over PvP characters
1. Four weapon slots instead of two.
2. The ability to carry extra armor pieces

The former allows for greater flexability when setting ur build before a match and is a time saver as all you have to do is change skills (and now with a prof changer in the area - change secondary).
For a PVP only character to make these changes, it's delete and rebuild.

In the middle of a fight, a ranger for example, can swap to their tamers mask with sup bm rune while laying EoE and then switch back to their hunters mask with sup exp rune or w/e.

If you look, most, if not all, of the top guilds pretty much use PvE characters exclusively.

mightyzap

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

NL

DRA

hmm if this game was for PVP mainly,... why is there 700 skills

all u see in pvp is 2 types of group build....iway and vim....so 16 skills would be enough if it was for pvp.

time to nerf the iway and vim skills like they did with ele's...eles owned balanced, they whine and it gets nerfed...what happened...all u see is iway and vim....