Healing Signet

Rich_Izy

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/A

Is it me, or is this skill on every warrior's skill bar?

Every warrior my party ever had used it at least once in mission/gvg/pvp/etc.

Hidden in the Mist

Hidden in the Mist

Banned

Join Date: May 2006

Because it's damn good?

Loki Seiguro

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

IGN: Scarlet Test Ace

We play Isketch in [HoH]

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ummm cause its like the only healing skill?? just maybe thats the reason?...

Vermilion Okeanos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Certainly not on my PvE warrior's bar.

Xaero Gouki Kriegor

Xaero Gouki Kriegor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Leather Rebels, (LR)

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vermilion Okeanos
Certainly not on my PvE warrior's bar. you use healing breeze + mending instead?

h2holbro22

h2holbro22

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ohio

Dark Angel from the Underworld (Evil)

W/Mo

Who needs healing signet when theres a secondary monk class?

bakabum

bakabum

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by h2holbro22
Who needs healing signet when theres a secondary monk class? For non wamos maybe.

Healing signet + Dolyak + Watch yourself FTW!

Hidden in the Mist

Hidden in the Mist

Banned

Join Date: May 2006

Spike Heal > Spike Regen.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki Seiguro
ummm cause its like the only healing skill?? just maybe thats the reason?... Apparently, you haven't played a warrior much. There's "I will Avenge You!" and "Victory is Mine!" also.

aznteen097

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

thats cuz its awsome
it heals a lot i use it and i gain 100
lol
i love it

bakabum

bakabum

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hidden in the Mist
Spike Heal > Spike Regen.



Apparently, you haven't played a warrior much. There's "I will Avenge You!" and "Victory is Mine!" also.
Not to mention "I Will Survive!" as well.

Too bad all of those are conditional. Vim requires conditions on enemies (but that's something you should be spreading anyway" and IWAY requires dead allies. Healing signet is the only one you can trigger whenever and gain over 100 hp with, at the cost of -40 armor.

BhaalSpawn

BhaalSpawn

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Canada

N/A and proud of it!

N/Mo

Most of the warriors I've seen use it are pretty basic minded. They see a quick way to gain a chunk of hp and they are like "woot free hp", but it's not really is it. It's a sig(easily blocked by mesmers) it takes time to cast(interupts) and to cap it off you take double damage while casting; so overall that 100hp now looks more like 50 at best. In truth most secondary classes will have better ways to heal than a warrior, so why not use those, you have two classes for a reason.

Vermilion

Vermilion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

NY

I will take any warrior with healing sig over any warrior using Orison as a self-heal. Or Ether Feast..Aura of Restoration, Troll Unguent, etc. And if Im going to waste an elite on a heal, might as well be Healing Hands.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by h2holbro22
Who needs healing signet when theres a secondary monk class? Because not everyones W/Mo and not everyone wants to waste attrib points into healing?

Wrath Of Dragons

Wrath Of Dragons

Burninate Stuff

Join Date: Aug 2005

New Mexico

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
Because not everyones W/Mo and not everyone wants to waste attrib points into healing? but with mending.......



back on topic
I love healing sig. I just have to remember to use it when im not being attacked heavily. the -40 armor (NOT double damage) is dangerous

bakabum

bakabum

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

E/Me

40 armor is essentially doubling base damage of whatever is hitting you. Dunno about attack bonuses however.

Hidden in the Mist

Hidden in the Mist

Banned

Join Date: May 2006

100-40 = 60 AL which is double damage that is physical and elemental. 90/80-40 is more than double on physical and elemental damage.

Stupid Shizno

Stupid Shizno

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Madison, Wisconsin, USA

[eF]

Mo/

I bring Heal Sig in pve, and let my monks heal me in pvp

Kruzing Low

Kruzing Low

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

heal sig saves lives
warrs with heal sig in TA or RA are good for monks
so many times ive seen my warriors life going down only to see it shoot up again by a heal sig, allowing me to use the 5 energy i woulda used on him on someone else under attack

Lafayette

Lafayette

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vermilion
I will take any warrior with healing sig over any warrior using Orison as a self-heal. Or Ether Feast..Aura of Restoration, Troll Unguent, etc. And if Im going to waste an elite on a heal, might as well be Healing Hands. Agreed.

Plus, there are +armor skills and defensive stances which can reduce or negate the lower armor provided by Healing Signet.

Jessica Pariah

Jessica Pariah

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Warrior's Isle

LF PvP/GvG Guild.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hidden in the Mist
Because it's damn good?
No discussion possible, it _is_ a damn good skill. ^^

nomercy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

It aint on my skill bar.

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

A/

Because you're whammo, who wastes attribute points on healing!

Master Adamdk

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

England

Heroes of Vizunah Square [VIZU]

Me/Mo

I normally have Dolyak and Watch yourself when I have healing sig, meaning I gain +20 Armour when I use it.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

I dont know about everyone else, but i'd rather have -40 armor then be dead.

Male Gigolo

Male Gigolo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Abidjan, Ivory Coast, West Africa

Black Metal Clan

Mo/Me

well the trick is you should start healing yourself before your health reaches 50%. Save energy for you monks. Some people just wait too long or just wait till the monk heals. I personally use healing signet when my health has been decreased by almost 175. So even if they interupt me then its ok coz I still have alot of hp. I just wait when i can use it again.

now the problem with breeze is that its an enchantment which mesmers can shatter which can deal like 100 damage. and if you have mending on and they shatter that too then that's like 200 damage....that's just too painfull. orison heals are too weak even at 12 healing. Ya I started the game as a wammo and finished prophecy as a wammo. Its only because I play with hechies always and I rez then coz usually i'm the only one left alive.

Ether feast has long recharge and give u around 110 hp. downside is recharge and it does have cast time similar to heal signet.

I'm not sure about other skills though. But for me Healing Signet is the way to go. all other warrior skills are too conditional. Trying to get back hp thru health regeneration is not reliable.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

It takes 2 seconds to activate, so if I use Frenzy, will it go faster?

Ristaron

Ristaron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Canada, eh?

Legion Of Valhalla

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In my opinion, it is a PvE warrior staple. Unless you have a build designed specifically to not have to use it, it should be on your bar.
Used properly, it gives the party monk a well-needed break from the rampant leeroys.

thrashbasket

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

[cape]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hidden in the Mist
100-40 = 60 AL which is double damage that is physical and elemental. 90/80-40 is more than double on physical and elemental damage. that;s a bit confusing, but sounds wrong. 40 less armor means double damage, always.

Algeron Zolo

Algeron Zolo

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Heroes Z

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanman.be
Because you're whammo, who wastes attribute points on healing! I know i am!! Mending and Healing Breeze all the way!! (Although Heal sig is ok if ur not a wammo...)

Mercury Angel

Mercury Angel

Avatar of Gwen

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wandering my own road.

Quote:
Originally Posted by thrashbasket
that;s a bit confusing, but sounds wrong. 40 less armor means double damage, always. Frenzy is double to all sources. Healing Signet is only -40 AL. An important distinction is that you don't get double from armor-ignoring sources, such as Obsidian Flame, Crystal Wave, Balthazar's Aura, and so on.

While that may be plainly obvious, it still precludes the use of 'double' when talking about armor reduction, without clarification. Particulary because it may be confusing to people who played Guild Wars a long while back, when Healing Signet ACTUALLY doubled damage, before they opted to change it to -40 AL.

Symbol

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Healsig is quite possibly the best non-monk self heal in the game.

Jessica Pariah

Jessica Pariah

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Warrior's Isle

LF PvP/GvG Guild.

Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi
It takes 2 seconds to activate, so if I use Frenzy, will it go faster? What!? We got sarcasm-mode on? Thought we put it off long time ago :/

Poison Ivy

Poison Ivy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Toronto

Hopping

Mo/A

Quick tip : Healing Signet should always do at least 115. Personally I like mine to be 130, who needs Strength anyways :P

Hand of Ruin

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by bakabum
For non wamos maybe.

Healing signet + Dolyak + Watch yourself FTW! The three skills I NEVER leave without... ever. Only exception is when I replace Healing Sig with "ViM", mainly used in Reposite Builds.

The Master Eldar

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

I don't use it, because you have -20 armor of it while using it. I use Mending and Healing breeze

ZenRgy

ZenRgy

Zookeeper

Join Date: Jul 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Master Eldar
I don't use it, because you have -20 armor of it while using it. I use Mending and Healing breeze
-40 armour*

And healing signet is alot better than Mending + Healing Breeze.

OK, you pull away from battle OR you put up your defenses while using it. Healing signet heals for 90+ (It heals me for 120 or something because of high tactics) In 2 seconds.

Healing Breeze + Mending heals for 100 in 10 seconds or so.
Healing breeze, 10 energy, 1 sec cast, enchantment
Mending, 10 energy, 2 second cast, -1 pip energy, enchantment

Both which can be shattered / removed.

Healing Signet, 0 energy, 2 second cast, signet

As I said it heals for alot more, the only counters I see are rust and that mesmer skill, which I very rarely see occur.

Hidden in the Mist

Hidden in the Mist

Banned

Join Date: May 2006

At 10 Tactics, Healing Signets heals for 115 health every 6 seconds for free.

At 8 Healing Prayers, Healing Breeze plus Mending gives you 120 health every 6 seconds, but you have to pay 20 energy initially plus another 10 energy every 10 seconds to maintain it which is something a warrior can't do.

Lambentviper

Lambentviper

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Noobs Just Took Halls [WTF]

Mo/E

this is more of a debate between idiots and people who understand the game mechanics

Heal Sig ftw!!! if i could use that as my sole heal skill during an FoW spider cave + shadow blade run, then its perfect