Is there something I am missing about recruiting people into a guild? I've done the message spamming thing endlessly. I've found that recruiting people in-game has been almost worthless since they end up not ever showing up or quitting shortly afterwards.
We have a great web-site, team speak and about 20 members right now. The guild is part of a stable, multi-game clan that has been around for over 2 years and has been playing Guild Wars for 14 months.
Any guidance, suggestions would be most appreciated. There are 2 million people playing this game and I'd hope to do better than this.
Please post a pointer if this has been addressed.
Thanks
Mike.
Why is Recruiting a Pain?
mjd001
WetWookie
In game spamming is by far the worst thing you can do. Even if you get people to sign up that way they will most likely be the last people you would really want.
The best thing you can do is write an advertisment in the guild section on a bunch of forums. Tell a little bit about the guild. Make anyone trying to sign up write up an application on your forums. Then make them go through a trial period before inviting them to the guild. If a person is not willing to put a little effort into joining then they are likely the kind of person who will leave your guild at the drop of a hat.
The best thing you can do is write an advertisment in the guild section on a bunch of forums. Tell a little bit about the guild. Make anyone trying to sign up write up an application on your forums. Then make them go through a trial period before inviting them to the guild. If a person is not willing to put a little effort into joining then they are likely the kind of person who will leave your guild at the drop of a hat.
Lady Frost Bite
A trial period is not that good of an idea mainly because its a waste of gold. i do suggest that you have an application section in your forums where people will give you information about themselves like the kind of toon they play and what they are looking for in a guild(if its for PvP then you also want them to tell you how much pvp xp they have).If your doing PvE stuff, then if you do random pugs you might find people in your group who are guildless, after you do a mission or two with them(and of course talk to them in team chat)you can kinda figure out what kinda player they are. if they impress you during the mission, then offer them an invite. now not everyone will accept an invite this way, but i've gotton a few good players(from top 100 guilds)into my guild by doing this. sometimes spamming works, but depending on where you spam and what you say in your message you run the risk of getting 12 year olds who just want money and stuff from you. if you are going to spam, you wanna do it in major districts like LA dis 1 or HA dis 1, your message should read something along the lines of " so and so guild is recruting active mature members with vent/ts(whichever you have) pm me for more info" this is an easy way to weed out some of the young ones, cause you can sorta tell how they are going to be with the questions they present to you about your guild, and the way they answer the questions you give them. Now all of this is just stuff that has worked for me and my guilds(i've ran 3 different guilds and been in 2 other top 100 guilds). so good luck and i hope it all works for you.
Opal Bridewood
Just a thought, opening up a bit more forum access for the unregistered to get a feel of the guild (even if it is just the application section) will certainly help I think. Some people will not bother with registering, unless you got them already interested in the guild.
Electric Sky
my experience of recruiting was a pain as well........but in a different way......
having shortly just joined a guild i got promoted to being an officer ( which i did not request to be ) only for the purpose so that i have to help them recruit, so i did that, but everytime i log onto GW the first thing the other officers and leader say to me is this : "could you do some recruiting for the guild please?" every god damn second i log on!
so thats why i just quit the guild
having shortly just joined a guild i got promoted to being an officer ( which i did not request to be ) only for the purpose so that i have to help them recruit, so i did that, but everytime i log onto GW the first thing the other officers and leader say to me is this : "could you do some recruiting for the guild please?" every god damn second i log on!
so thats why i just quit the guild
WPCTimCarnage
Yeah I have been having trouble too. I have been using this website to try and recruit, getting IGN's, reading what they are looking for etc. It's hard to recruit in game, and I have stopped doing it, since I want to play and not waste time finding people.
Look through the forum here, and find people who you think would be good for your guild, put them on your friends list and check it once in a while during your playing. If they pop on.. I ask "Are you still looking for a guild?" if they say no.. or they are not interested take them off your list so you know you talked to them already.. lol
I have been recruiting for weeks, and tried here, but they deleted my post since they dont want guilds recruiting, which is understandable. We have about 20 members, plus an age requirement, we dont want kids who are disrespectful, and dont want in active players. Its hard.. hang in there give that a try.. dont waste your time in game...
good luck
Look through the forum here, and find people who you think would be good for your guild, put them on your friends list and check it once in a while during your playing. If they pop on.. I ask "Are you still looking for a guild?" if they say no.. or they are not interested take them off your list so you know you talked to them already.. lol
I have been recruiting for weeks, and tried here, but they deleted my post since they dont want guilds recruiting, which is understandable. We have about 20 members, plus an age requirement, we dont want kids who are disrespectful, and dont want in active players. Its hard.. hang in there give that a try.. dont waste your time in game...
good luck
tommarrow
Hey Sky I need you to do some recruiting for my guild. Could you do this please? j/k
TempestBrewer
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A trial period is not that good of an idea mainly because its a waste of gold.
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My guild has an application, interview, and 2-week provisional period system. If the person really doesn't jive with the guild, I don't mind the 100g I'm losing. However, I suppose on a large scale recruiting spree maybe this would be not as rational, but looks like both Mike and I are trying to recruit quality members slowly. Take Wookie's advice, this is my guild's policy and will net you the best members. Watch the forums, talk with people in game, chat up those people you find interesting and perserverence will win out. Good luck on the recruiting, Mike!
Lyanna
DFrost
Well GW has already been around for over a year. Because of that the majority of the experienced players are already in a guild or just tired of in-game random invites. I too would recommend using fansite forums. And have everyone apply, don't accept everyone automatically. If the person is willing to take the time to write a few lines about him/herself, it's more likely that he/she will be a contributing member.
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Electric Sky
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Hey Sky I need you to do some recruiting for my guild. Could you do this please? j/k
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Billiard
The LFG thread here is really good - I have probably brought in nearly 100 folks using that since last year. TGH has one as well, and if you are PvP oriented you can post an ad at team-iq.net.
What really helps though is getting some good publicity for your guild. XoO was just your typical single guild and then our guild leader (Moskel) was interviewed on Weapon of Choice. Following that we were Guild of the Week (#22), and have since been featured by a couple other fansites in interviews (TenTonHammer was the latest). In addition, when Factions first hit we held House zu Heltzer for a while, and we always have a couple teams (currently 7 now) on the GvG ladder.
All of these things drives applicants to our website, where in turn we have a fairly detailed application process to complete. We get 2-3 new applicants a day now without having to do any external recruiting, and even though we have some requirements (minimum age, mic required, Factions required, advanced characters required).
But what started all that was getting on WoC and gaining GoTW - and these are things that any guild can do if it wants to.
What really helps though is getting some good publicity for your guild. XoO was just your typical single guild and then our guild leader (Moskel) was interviewed on Weapon of Choice. Following that we were Guild of the Week (#22), and have since been featured by a couple other fansites in interviews (TenTonHammer was the latest). In addition, when Factions first hit we held House zu Heltzer for a while, and we always have a couple teams (currently 7 now) on the GvG ladder.
All of these things drives applicants to our website, where in turn we have a fairly detailed application process to complete. We get 2-3 new applicants a day now without having to do any external recruiting, and even though we have some requirements (minimum age, mic required, Factions required, advanced characters required).
But what started all that was getting on WoC and gaining GoTW - and these are things that any guild can do if it wants to.
callumevans324
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Is there something I am missing about recruiting people into a guild? I've done the message spamming thing endlessly. I've found that recruiting people in-game has been almost worthless since they end up not ever showing up or quitting shortly afterwards.
We have a great web-site, team speak and about 20 members right now. The guild is part of a stable, multi-game clan that has been around for over 2 years and has been playing Guild Wars for 14 months. Any guidance, suggestions would be most appreciated. There are 2 million people playing this game and I'd hope to do better than this. Please post a pointer if this has been addressed. Thanks Mike. |
In answer to the question "why is recruiting a pain?" it's because people think they can buy Guild Wars, make a guild and it'll rule the roost without them ahving to do anything. Therefor you get a load of leaders of 1 man guilds jumping around saying "guild recruitin...AWESOME CAPE & BEST HALL EVER!"
Kinda annoys me but :P
As for guideance and suggesstions, 20 members is a good sized guild nowadays, so i'd stick with it and just try to make it a high quality 20 member guild
Yer, and as previously mentioned spam recruiting is a bad idea. If i have trouble recruiting, i go all over the worl just posting my ad say once in each district. No luck? start over, you're not spamming anyone in that way
Fact is for that 2 million, about 1.9 million are all leaders of 1-man guilds, and the rest are in guilds already, inactive or just don't want to join a guild
Hope this helps
Good luck !EDIT:
Form the last post guy, billiard
XoO is a load of small guilds under one nametag aint it
and no certain leadership from what i've heard anyway Nm, u guys done well for urselfs
Billiard
XoO is made up of 10 different guilds that we each grew - expanding from the first one onward. We have an overall leader (me), 2 executive officers, and a dozen or so division officers. We have a very organized structure and leadership team.
Crom The Red
It is required that your Guild have a good organization. If you should only wish to find others to game with, use the forums here where you can partially screen potential Guild Members.
Our Guild has a waiting list. Of the 140+ invites that have been extended and received by our Members we only have about 1 or so that have left and not returned.
We stopped trying to recruit people about 8 or 9 months ago and most of our Guild Leadership hasn't bothered to try recruiting in game for at least 6 months now.
It's important that you find people who want the same gaming experience as you do and if it's possible... to find people who share the same values or interests as you outside of the game.
Good luck.
Our Guild has a waiting list. Of the 140+ invites that have been extended and received by our Members we only have about 1 or so that have left and not returned.
We stopped trying to recruit people about 8 or 9 months ago and most of our Guild Leadership hasn't bothered to try recruiting in game for at least 6 months now.
It's important that you find people who want the same gaming experience as you do and if it's possible... to find people who share the same values or interests as you outside of the game.
Good luck.
kratic
what guild are you in Crom?
gameshoes3003
I do have lots of trouble recruiting but the best way I've got people is by joining a mission preferably with a group that has a person without a guild (which I rarely find) but yeah then help them.... Then you can just pray that they'll be interested =(
Alleji
Publicity is good... get on observer mode in GvG*, take a town in PvE, etc.
*Even if it's simply because you're fighting a high-ranked guild. An old guild of mine once put on a decent show against iQ, considering our 800-ish rank at the time. Immediately after that I got several PMs asking if I was recruiting. Unfortunately none of those people stuck around, if memory serves me, but the point is: publicity gets you people, you don't need to look for them.
Oh, and every time you win HoH, you'll get at least 2 PMs asking if you're recruiting. :P
*Even if it's simply because you're fighting a high-ranked guild. An old guild of mine once put on a decent show against iQ, considering our 800-ish rank at the time. Immediately after that I got several PMs asking if I was recruiting. Unfortunately none of those people stuck around, if memory serves me, but the point is: publicity gets you people, you don't need to look for them.
Oh, and every time you win HoH, you'll get at least 2 PMs asking if you're recruiting. :P
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niteelvez
I agree recruiting isn't as easy as it was. I personally have had some really bad luck with trying to recruite. Since school is starting alot of ppl have started to go inactive, I have a small guild with ppl i know since release and are capable of a good rank but with school its hard to get 8 ppl online at the same time to gvg and getting more ppl to join your guild so you can have a constant gvg game is even harder.
Also the problem is alot of gamers expect the perefect guild, they want it all handed to them for example- Acitve players of altealst 20, gvg everyday, gets pve help from members blah blah blah.
I mean 80% of the guild in GW (rough guess) is probably having problems keeping thier members since thier "So called" expectations isn't met, so what we have is alot of what i call "Floaters" who expect to be in a nice 100+ rank guild that gvg and pve and do elite missions and such, well good luck with that. I've yet to find a solution, I mean my guild isn't bad and my members are experienced but due to the "Floaters" its hard to keep a active roster to gvg with.
Also the problem is alot of gamers expect the perefect guild, they want it all handed to them for example- Acitve players of altealst 20, gvg everyday, gets pve help from members blah blah blah.
I mean 80% of the guild in GW (rough guess) is probably having problems keeping thier members since thier "So called" expectations isn't met, so what we have is alot of what i call "Floaters" who expect to be in a nice 100+ rank guild that gvg and pve and do elite missions and such, well good luck with that. I've yet to find a solution, I mean my guild isn't bad and my members are experienced but due to the "Floaters" its hard to keep a active roster to gvg with.
Florence Cortista
When the game started it was all, random invites or guilds that existed in other games.
Now recruiting is a bit different. All i can recomend is a very basic concept. Play with them, and if you like them ask them to join. This means alot of Pubing but it's the best way to find people. Slow but it can weed alot of none wanted people being recruited.
Also. Ask your self if you even want to recruit people. If 10 people is enough for you to make a good ranking or win in HA, why recruit more people? If u are PvE and everyone farms for what they want, why recruit more people? I like small guilds, others need alot of people on. Decide whats best for you.
Now recruiting is a bit different. All i can recomend is a very basic concept. Play with them, and if you like them ask them to join. This means alot of Pubing but it's the best way to find people. Slow but it can weed alot of none wanted people being recruited.
Also. Ask your self if you even want to recruit people. If 10 people is enough for you to make a good ranking or win in HA, why recruit more people? If u are PvE and everyone farms for what they want, why recruit more people? I like small guilds, others need alot of people on. Decide whats best for you.
Sai Rith
Recruiting isn't very easy for a new guild. Everyone wants a good ranked guild. When we almost beat a korean guild with Reno and Evil guests (tag was [one]) last week, I had around a lot of people messaging me to join. Just last week we were making a smurf,and couldn' get anyone to join,until we had to say that the smurf was allied with sumthing stoopid. And Billiard is right,the Looking For Guild thread is decent. A long time ago,I joined at least two very good guilds I enjoyed that were recruiting.
greywolf790
I, like the reast of you have had trouble with this. My method is to just go questing with people. I interview them without them knowing and deside if I want them or not. It is alot easier to get someone if you are friends.
Sentential
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I, like the reast of you have had trouble with this. My method is to just go questing with people. I interview them without them knowing and deside if I want them or not. It is alot easier to get someone if you are friends.
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the sly edge
i suggest if you want some members try to find a guild to merge with
or you can dot he spaming in ha, ab, center, lions, and others
or you can dot he spaming in ha, ab, center, lions, and others
majeh456
One thing I think most guilds don't realize is that you need to connect to your guild members. I got lazy with all of the before posts, so I don't know if this was adressed very well.
I have been in many guilds (I'm now guild-less), and the reason why I never stayed was because 1) Annoying people being stupid on the guild chat 2) Leader/Officers/Members that don't offer any help or advice what-so-ever on ANYTHING and 3) Where's the GvG? In all of the guilds I have been in, I have yet to do any GvG, ever. Those are the 3 biggest reasons I never stay with guilds. If someone could make a nice, helpful, fairly active guild, I would join it in a heartbeat. Sadly, I have yet to find a guild that even comes close to that.
And, yes, when I was in a guild, I contributed my butt off. I've run many, many ungrateful ppl, and helped complete many, many missions with ppl who don't even say ty. I've even chipped in to buying "fellow" guild members buy armor and whatnot. And in return I get the cold shoulder when I ask "fellow" guild members to help me on a mission (I rarely ask).
I have been in many guilds (I'm now guild-less), and the reason why I never stayed was because 1) Annoying people being stupid on the guild chat 2) Leader/Officers/Members that don't offer any help or advice what-so-ever on ANYTHING and 3) Where's the GvG? In all of the guilds I have been in, I have yet to do any GvG, ever. Those are the 3 biggest reasons I never stay with guilds. If someone could make a nice, helpful, fairly active guild, I would join it in a heartbeat. Sadly, I have yet to find a guild that even comes close to that.
And, yes, when I was in a guild, I contributed my butt off. I've run many, many ungrateful ppl, and helped complete many, many missions with ppl who don't even say ty. I've even chipped in to buying "fellow" guild members buy armor and whatnot. And in return I get the cold shoulder when I ask "fellow" guild members to help me on a mission (I rarely ask).
Samuel Dravis
My main problem with guilds is, well, most of them don't do anything. And those that do: faction farming is not my cup of tea, thanks...
ademcg
Recruitment is increadibly hard for a small guild these days, our guild (Born To Raise Hell) has 9 members and we have tried many times to recruit members all have ended with them being kicked or inactive for months.
We are a very "relaxed" group that does PvE (quests and Missions) , Underworld, Fissure of Woe, farming (anything and everything), and are looking to push into PvP and more GvG activities, which is hard having so few numbers.
I have read all these posts on here on how to recruit, but it isn't making things easier.
Christ we are even fully set up, Teamspeak server, Web site and Forums, but only have a hard core of 5 regular users (Leader and 4 officers)...I never in all my born days thought it would be so difficult to find people of the same mindset to join in. I just don't know what we are doing wrong...there is no facet of the game we are not interested in doing and yet I don't seem to come across anyone who is interested in any of it.
Is GW descending into a one man game ?
Judging by the quality of some of the players I have encountered in Factions recently I think it is......maybe GW:P is where people are learning their professions in more depth and are more open to teamwork.
Rant over :/
We are a very "relaxed" group that does PvE (quests and Missions) , Underworld, Fissure of Woe, farming (anything and everything), and are looking to push into PvP and more GvG activities, which is hard having so few numbers.
I have read all these posts on here on how to recruit, but it isn't making things easier.
Christ we are even fully set up, Teamspeak server, Web site and Forums, but only have a hard core of 5 regular users (Leader and 4 officers)...I never in all my born days thought it would be so difficult to find people of the same mindset to join in. I just don't know what we are doing wrong...there is no facet of the game we are not interested in doing and yet I don't seem to come across anyone who is interested in any of it.
Is GW descending into a one man game ?
Judging by the quality of some of the players I have encountered in Factions recently I think it is......maybe GW:P is where people are learning their professions in more depth and are more open to teamwork.
Rant over :/
Mc Swede
I am the co founder of a very good guild full of nice guys and lots of gals called " The Phoenix Knights " our leader is Tay Zendreth hes a very nice guy and no crap or demanding pain in the butt tasks from him at all.
We recruit by going to ascalon, yaks etc and helping noobs on the missions, this gives us a chance to play with them and see just what kind of people they are .
if theyre friendly courteous and know how to follow our ingame instructions then well offer them a place in guild, if theyre not then we just pass them by.
We have 28 in our guild at the moment and a 4 guild alliance, there are no fools in our guild and every night theres plenty of guildees on helping each other and noobs.
Noone has to recruit,noone has to donate any gold as we have plenty and a full facilities in the guild hall,were growing slowly but strongly mainly because of the way we sound players out when missioning with them.
Shouting in Ascalon is not in my opinion going to get you nice loyal players.
We recruit by going to ascalon, yaks etc and helping noobs on the missions, this gives us a chance to play with them and see just what kind of people they are .
if theyre friendly courteous and know how to follow our ingame instructions then well offer them a place in guild, if theyre not then we just pass them by.
We have 28 in our guild at the moment and a 4 guild alliance, there are no fools in our guild and every night theres plenty of guildees on helping each other and noobs.
Noone has to recruit,noone has to donate any gold as we have plenty and a full facilities in the guild hall,were growing slowly but strongly mainly because of the way we sound players out when missioning with them.
Shouting in Ascalon is not in my opinion going to get you nice loyal players.
Well99
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One thing I think most guilds don't realize is that you need to connect to your guild members. I got lazy with all of the before posts, so I don't know if this was adressed very well.
I have been in many guilds (I'm now guild-less), and the reason why I never stayed was because 1) Annoying people being stupid on the guild chat 2) Leader/Officers/Members that don't offer any help or advice what-so-ever on ANYTHING and 3) Where's the GvG? In all of the guilds I have been in, I have yet to do any GvG, ever. Those are the 3 biggest reasons I never stay with guilds. If someone could make a nice, helpful, fairly active guild, I would join it in a heartbeat. Sadly, I have yet to find a guild that even comes close to that. And, yes, when I was in a guild, I contributed my butt off. I've run many, many ungrateful ppl, and helped complete many, many missions with ppl who don't even say ty. I've even chipped in to buying "fellow" guild members buy armor and whatnot. And in return I get the cold shoulder when I ask "fellow" guild members to help me on a mission (I rarely ask). |
I running solo and have most of time in the game.I try joining PVE guild but turns out their version of PVE is GVG.Then some yutts says Get your a@@ up to GH.Hit G ..leave guild at that point.Also if you want to stay in guild you have to FF.Goodbye.
Key is before I join guild I always let them know I am strictly pve and dont FF for them.Is there a problem with that?I get no there isnt.Right..)
Ok bottom line after this rant is if you advertise friendly then be friendly.If you are PVE then be PVE.I dont have nothing against PVP players.You bought the game and enjoy it the way you want to but I also payed for mine so I going enjoy it the way I like it.You arent going to force or pressure me..why try.
If you want your your guild to be just numbers well you will have alot of turnover.
Put rules out and stick with them.I was in a guild and all you seem to hear was gimme gimme..that is wrong answer.
What would help a guild
Officers helping in missions.
Setting up events.
People needing help setting up a time to make it more convient to get help.
No begging.
Teach people to farm..dont have to be a 55 to get good items.
No swearing spamming items to sell or offensive humor.NO POLITICS OR RELIGION.Plenty of other things to talk about..like NF..)
mjd001
Update:
Well, as a prelude to a recruiting drive, I asked members of my guild to at least log-in to make it appear like there wasn't as much inactivity. Only five people bothered. So I gave up. I bought WoW and started a character. It's a lot of fun too, the change is nice.
GW a great run, I played 14 months and had a lot of fun with my four level 20's. I plan on being back someday, I'll definitely get the new expansion and poke around.
Well, as a prelude to a recruiting drive, I asked members of my guild to at least log-in to make it appear like there wasn't as much inactivity. Only five people bothered. So I gave up. I bought WoW and started a character. It's a lot of fun too, the change is nice.
GW a great run, I played 14 months and had a lot of fun with my four level 20's. I plan on being back someday, I'll definitely get the new expansion and poke around.
mhsdrums
well if you havent found somethin that works, what i do is just go up to the newcomers. when i do that i normally get up to 10 ppl an hour. i travel to the shing jea monestary then look around, find my target then ask them whats up. they will reply. then ask them somehing like wanna join a guild, it's full of helpful and funny members. then they give you a responce and if they say no then they say no, if they say yes, recruit em.
warning: about 1/8 of recruits later on quit on me, but still you have those 7
warning: about 1/8 of recruits later on quit on me, but still you have those 7
Josh
Well, I've made a Guild with some real-life friends, we tried recruiting but it doesn't go so well.
We try to get to know others, but, the decent people are already in guilds. Also, the people looking for guilds expect it all to be given on a plate.
Top 500 Ranked, 50+ Active Members, GvG & PvP everyday.
Sheesh.
We try to get to know others, but, the decent people are already in guilds. Also, the people looking for guilds expect it all to be given on a plate.
Top 500 Ranked, 50+ Active Members, GvG & PvP everyday.
Sheesh.
pigdestroyer
win hall of heroes with you guild.... better advertisement ever... not that my guild is recruiting or will, but.. just saying...
Crystal Alice
i have a funny story that still makes me laugh to this day about recruiting for my guild.
i was recruiting in ascalon and someone started to pm me.
i told them all of the info (hall, cape, over 50 people, 100,000 faction, blah, blah, blah) and then he asked to see our cape.
so i showed the guy the cape and he declined being in my guild just because of the fact the cape was "ugly".
i mean...it's a cape...you can change it and hide it!
that seemed just a little too picky to me...
i was recruiting in ascalon and someone started to pm me.
i told them all of the info (hall, cape, over 50 people, 100,000 faction, blah, blah, blah) and then he asked to see our cape.
so i showed the guy the cape and he declined being in my guild just because of the fact the cape was "ugly".
i mean...it's a cape...you can change it and hide it!
that seemed just a little too picky to me...
teenchi
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Blade_Wolf
Recruiting seems almost impossible for small guilds like myself, I have a Guild Hall, but its basically empty however I've saved 32K for upgrades, I don't have a faction though i do have 4,645/10,000 Kurzick.
I belive one should join a guild to have fun and make friends, but i've come to see that when i'm recruiting all people ask me is: "can i be an Officer?" Thats all i get, i also think that you shouldn't promote someone just for joining, i tell them that and its always:"Nevermind then" People are selfish all they seem to care about are themselves. However i don't give up but its still the same thing over and over again, "Promote me to officer i have alot of gold" If you don't take the time to get to know any of your fellow guildies then whats the point of being in a guild?
I belive one should join a guild to have fun and make friends, but i've come to see that when i'm recruiting all people ask me is: "can i be an Officer?" Thats all i get, i also think that you shouldn't promote someone just for joining, i tell them that and its always:"Nevermind then" People are selfish all they seem to care about are themselves. However i don't give up but its still the same thing over and over again, "Promote me to officer i have alot of gold" If you don't take the time to get to know any of your fellow guildies then whats the point of being in a guild?
Kusandaa
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Originally Posted by Blade_Wolf
I belive one should join a guild to have fun and make friends, but i've come to see that when i'm recruiting all people ask me is: "can i be an Officer?" Thats all i get, i also think that you shouldn't promote someone just for joining, i tell them that and its always:"Nevermind then" People are selfish all they seem to care about are themselves. However i don't give up but its still the same thing over and over again, "Promote me to officer i have alot of gold" If you don't take the time to get to know any of your fellow guildies then whats the point of being in a guild?
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There lies the problem. (That and the immaturity of some people I've played with... not all, thankfully, I found wonderful people out there
)The guild I'm in had a rule I didn't understand before, but eventually came up to understand. We don't pick up random people anymore, those spamming for a guild in outposts (funny thing is that I got picked up this way, and today I'm officer). We team up in missions, FoW, TA, RA, HA... and it works. Because we know we don't want immature members who're gonna ask for whatever green they want every 3 minutes, thinking someone went to farm it for them. This way, we have mature yet fun people, generally people who LISTEN even if they're brand new to the game.
Crystal Alice
at the moment i like the guild i am in. i just don't like the fact that whenever someone promises to recruit or is recruiting like 1 person they ask to be an officer and our leader lets them. it annoys me a lot. i completely understand where some of you are coming from with the officer thing, but if you have friends and they want to join your guild, and you trust them, i would in an instant make them an officer.
another fact to consider when recruiting is if you want your guild to be a "certain" way, like a good gvg competing guild, is what type of people you're recruiting. it is very hard to find experienced guildless people, so you are mainly only going to be able to recruit the pre-searing people.
another fact to consider when recruiting is if you want your guild to be a "certain" way, like a good gvg competing guild, is what type of people you're recruiting. it is very hard to find experienced guildless people, so you are mainly only going to be able to recruit the pre-searing people.
Blade_Wolf
Well of course i'd make my friends officers because i know them, i'm talking about total strangers that you invite to your guild. and the first thing that they ask when their invited is "can I be an officer"
Currently i have 2 officers, I promoted them not because they were my first 2 members but because they took the time to chat with me a little, and we've done some questing as well. all I'm asking from my members is just take a little time to get to know everyone. Why is that such a hassle with some people anyway?
As of recruiting, I usually guild spam, and thats when i get the people that want to be officers right away. But with my first member, he was brand new to the game so i helped him get to know the game and do his first quests. so yeah doing missions with people and getting to know them better is a better approach when recruiting people into your guild, at least for some people. But then again i can never find enough newbies to help or people that don't have guilds in the first place, most of them have played prophecies or factions and already have a guild and thats not even the problem i never know how to ask...haha its stupid i know. cause the first thing out of that persons mouth could be "can I be an officer" so I'm a little hesitant.
Currently i have 2 officers, I promoted them not because they were my first 2 members but because they took the time to chat with me a little, and we've done some questing as well. all I'm asking from my members is just take a little time to get to know everyone. Why is that such a hassle with some people anyway?
As of recruiting, I usually guild spam, and thats when i get the people that want to be officers right away. But with my first member, he was brand new to the game so i helped him get to know the game and do his first quests. so yeah doing missions with people and getting to know them better is a better approach when recruiting people into your guild, at least for some people. But then again i can never find enough newbies to help or people that don't have guilds in the first place, most of them have played prophecies or factions and already have a guild and thats not even the problem i never know how to ask...haha its stupid i know. cause the first thing out of that persons mouth could be "can I be an officer" so I'm a little hesitant.
Perkunas
I am the leader of a small guild, 9 members, all officers. Wearing no tags gets you pmed over and over by people wanting you to join their guilds. My guild was made just to stop that. For this reason, I don't go asking people to join. If someone without tags is in my group, I may ask why they are not a member of a guild. Depending on how they answer, I tell them about my guild. That we are small, we are helpful (helping in missions and quests and such), we don't expect you to do anything you may not want to do, etc. I leave them saying, 'should want to join us, let me know.'
We aren't growing fast, but we have not had anyone quit nor have we had to kick anyone.
The reason all are officers, no one has to wait for an officer for an invite.
We aren't growing fast, but we have not had anyone quit nor have we had to kick anyone.
The reason all are officers, no one has to wait for an officer for an invite.