ANet SHOULD add the Honorable Mention Guild Emblems. - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

geoff0011

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Illusion of Skill

W/E

04 Aug 2006 at 23:43 - 1

I think most of the Honorable Mention Guild Emblems were better than the winning emblems. I was actually really looking forward to using one of these:

I don't see the point in not adding them all, it will give more variety to the capes. And instead of just Emblems, why doesn't ANet add more background designs? The capes as a whole are really lacking.

Here's a link to the winners/honarble emblems. I'd like to contact ANet and run it by them, but it probably wouldn't do any good. Take a look at them and see what you think.

http://www.guildwars.com/events/cont...em-winners.php

Azrael1309

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

ABQ, NM

LF Guild

04 Aug 2006 at 23:56 - 2

I agree. It might take the attention away from the gawd-aweful beaver.

xiaotsu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Doomlore Shrine

Just Us Gamers [JUGs]

R/

05 Aug 2006 at 00:09 - 3

Wow...I want that emblem! RAWR! Add the Honorable Mentions please!

Young Hero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mi

N/Mo

05 Aug 2006 at 03:07 - 4

NOTHING beats the Beaver!!!!

l33t

Alias_X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

05 Aug 2006 at 03:33 - 5

Tru.dat

For a game called Guild Wars the guild capes are e_x_t_r_e_m_e_l_y lacking.

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

05 Aug 2006 at 03:44 - 6

The competition was to who's emblems would be added. Honourable mention != winner. Do you give runners up the first place prize in your competitions?

Vermilion Okeanos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

05 Aug 2006 at 04:06 - 7

The thing is, honorable mention are more like "you are good, but you didn't have the theme".

These contest are all theme based, and the dev seem to decide theme quite randomly.

A contest of luck (lucky for you to fit in the theme).

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

05 Aug 2006 at 04:17 - 8

We have just kicked off the Nightfall Guild Emblem Contest, just today. I will take on board your comments, but please be aware, we add the HMs to recognize exceptional work, but they do not fall into the same category as the Winners. We can either just go with winners, or have winners and call out a few more for doing fine work, but I don't see us adding both Winners and HMs, it defeats the purpose of having the delineation between them.

Not only did the beaver win, it won 1st Place. I'm sorry that it's controversial, but it is a very well loved emblem to many, and I bet if I do a study in a few weeks, more will have chosen the beaver than any other single image. Sure, it's *cough* uniquely drawn and somewhat funky, but some feel that that's the charm of the concept.

We won't be going with that sort of ideain every contest, be sure of it, so don't think that there will be a wealth of such off-the-wall images in the future.

Young Hero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mi

N/Mo

05 Aug 2006 at 04:29 - 9

Yay, so when can I stamp the Beaver on my back?

EndoftheSyringe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Apathetic Eaters of Babies

W/Mo

05 Aug 2006 at 04:33 - 10

If you get honorable mention in this upcoming contest, do you still get the skill pins?

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

05 Aug 2006 at 04:36 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by EndoftheSyringe

If you get honorable mention in this upcoming contest, do you still get the skill pins?

If there are HMs chosen in judging the current Nightfall contest, and I am inclined to think there will be, we will have a prize for them of some sort. I don't know that it will be a full set of skill pins -- I rather doubt that. But it may be a couple of the pin sets or other cool GW stuff. (The hats are really nice, and we're working on new t-shirts, too.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Young Hero

Yay, so when can I stamp the Beaver on my back?

All the emblems were rolled in earlier this week, as predicted by The Scribe.

Young Hero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mi

N/Mo

05 Aug 2006 at 05:10 - 12

Beaver has an accident, damit won't let me purchase.

EndoftheSyringe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Apathetic Eaters of Babies

W/Mo

05 Aug 2006 at 05:13 - 13

A t-shirt would be a most excellent prize for HM. Or a hat... or you know what would ROCK? A GW mug ;D

Azrael1309

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

ABQ, NM

LF Guild

05 Aug 2006 at 05:35 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Not only did the beaver win, it won 1st Place.

Time to go steal my little cousin's drawings...

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

05 Aug 2006 at 05:51 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by EndoftheSyringe

A t-shirt would be a most excellent prize for HM. Or a hat... or you know what would ROCK? A GW mug ;D

I'm totally down for a mug. There is so much merchandise I want to see us offer. I've been driving people nuts for years about action figures, playing cards, mugs (lined for cold or ceramic), mousepads, laptop cases, backpacks, Froggie plushies, Charr Slippers...

*Edit* I didn't mean to derail the thread. *ahem*

Lampshade

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Xen of Onslaught

05 Aug 2006 at 07:41 - 16

I would so buy my girlfriend a Charr shaman stuffed toy thingy.
EDIT: I'd love to have one-inch models of GW peoples to glue to my moniter or somthing.

Rok

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Guild Wars

05 Aug 2006 at 09:07 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

We have just kicked off the Nightfall Guild Emblem Contest, just today. I will take on board your comments, but please be aware, we add the HMs to recognize exceptional work, but they do not fall into the same category as the Winners. We can either just go with winners, or have winners and call out a few more for doing fine work, but I don't see us adding both Winners and HMs, it defeats the purpose of having the delineation between them.

Not only did the beaver win, it won 1st Place. I'm sorry that it's controversial, but it is a very well loved emblem to many, and I bet if I do a study in a few weeks, more will have chosen the beaver than any other single image. Sure, it's *cough* uniquely drawn and somewhat funky, but some feel that that's the charm of the concept.

We won't be going with that sort of ideain every contest, be sure of it, so don't think that there will be a wealth of such off-the-wall images in the future.

You may not pick crappy (yes, my opinion - shared by many others) artwork next time, but you have opened the floodgate to recieve millions of poorly drawn artwork submissions for all future contests. You should not of ever lowered the bar.

yesitsrob

Elite Guru

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

SMS/Victrix

05 Aug 2006 at 09:33 - 18

I just can't believe that beaver was one of the selected

, it doesn't even deserve an honorable mention, it's not even funny, it's just a bad drawing. Why do people like it?

Although, since it won the best page in the universe actually has some pictures to consider for emblems

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=irule

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

05 Aug 2006 at 11:50 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

I'm totally down for a mug. There is so much merchandise I want to see us offer. I've been driving people nuts for years about action figures, playing cards, mugs (lined for cold or ceramic), mousepads, laptop cases, backpacks, Froggie plushies, Charr Slippers...

How about a Guild Wars beer?

No, I like the honorables, but, They didn't win.

As for the beaver, I am trying to convince my parents I need a tatoo of it on my arm... It won at A-net. It looks funny. Quit bitching about it. they all like it there, so they will ignore you for all eternity...

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

A/

05 Aug 2006 at 11:58 - 20

Yeah Beer! Dwarven Ale! Spiked Eggnog!

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

05 Aug 2006 at 12:38 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alias_X

For a game called Guild Wars the guild capes are e_x_t_r_e_m_e_l_y lacking.

QFT. I'm quite surprised we havent seen more cape emblems abd styles added. Not to mention it would be a considerable improvement to have a full range color picker rather than the current color picking method.

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

05 Aug 2006 at 13:19 - 22

It's been mentioned before but how in the hell did that beaver one win. It looks like it's been drawn by a nursery (kindergarten) kid and is seriously lacking in artistic talent compared to almost all of the others.

In fact I'd say all of the runner up ones are superior to that one. Here's a tip for the next competition like this: enter a joke attempt, it's more likely to win compared to any real effort. As you can see, I'm no fan of so-called Modern Art either

Medionsaturn

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Nottingham, England

Berserkers of Lord Sendri[BoLS]

Mo/Me

05 Aug 2006 at 13:28 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

I'm totally down for a mug. There is so much merchandise I want to see us offer. I've been driving people nuts for years about action figures, playing cards, mugs (lined for cold or ceramic), mousepads, laptop cases, backpacks, Froggie plushies, Charr Slippers...

*Edit* I didn't mean to derail the thread. *ahem*

I'd want all of those listed, especially mini figurines to line up on my PC desk..

Tarun

Technician's Corner Moderator

Join Date: Jan 2006

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05 Aug 2006 at 22:57 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by yesitsrob

I just can't believe that beaver was one of the selected

, it doesn't even deserve an honorable mention, it's not even funny, it's just a bad drawing. Why do people like it?

No idea, but well said. This game is about the public, yet the majority of the public said they hate that stupid ugly beaver drawing. Does ANet ever listen? No. Just look at the Suggestions forum, that's proof enough.

geoff0011

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Illusion of Skill

W/E

05 Aug 2006 at 23:34 - 25

I guess the thing that bothers me, is the fact that most all the winners are so random. We get a beaver, a squirrel, some fish, and a tree. What does that have to do with any theme of this game? Yet the HM's have actual Asian themes to them. And to be a contest for Factions, which is asian, why would you exclude ALL of the Asian emblems. Maybe I just haven't come across that many beavers in Asia.

samifly

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Girl Power [GP]

Mo/Me

05 Aug 2006 at 23:44 - 26

Were not the new greens added (totem axe, et al) Honorable mentions from the weapon design contest?

Kuja

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

MA

Kame

Mo/W

05 Aug 2006 at 23:53 - 27

Beaver is kind of funny I dont mind it at all. It has a silly factor people like.

...anyway they should have contrusted way where you could fully custimize your cape but it has to be submitted for approval first. There's just not enough customizability in this game.

-Old 3FL-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

Western Australia.

Crystal Mountain [CM]

W/

06 Aug 2006 at 05:06 - 28

hth did beaver win 1st?
worst emblem ever
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daraaksii

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

06 Aug 2006 at 05:18 - 29

This beaver is really horrible.

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

06 Aug 2006 at 06:00 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rok

You may not pick crappy (yes, my opinion - shared by many others) artwork next time, but you have opened the floodgate to recieve millions of poorly drawn artwork submissions for all future contests. You should not of ever lowered the bar.

That "bar" was lowered by the best in the business, the members of the Guild Wars Team, of which none take games and game art so seriously that they can't enjoy a good laugh, too.

I suggest you consider them a role model and not take things so seriously.

If someone entered and did not win, I'm sorry. If somone didn't enter, but think we need to aim for a certain look and feel, I'm sorry, but in any judged event, there will no doubt be things with which one can disagree. I've never seen a diving competition, or a skating meet, or anything in the Olympics, ever, with which I couldn't take some issue. Any judged event by its very nature means that you're going with the judgment of others. In this case, the members of the Development Team for Guild Wars chose an image that someone love, some hate, and some find baffling for its selection.

End of the day, the judges spoke, and I feel the judges were fully and completely entitled to speak. I have no regrets for inviting them to judge the contest connected with the game that they developed. And as I said, I highly doubt that one smile-inducing image has set the pattern for the downfall or the degradation of future contests. Or the downfall of the Western World, either, come to think of it.

shianna ny

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

VoT

R/Mo

06 Aug 2006 at 10:13 - 31

you go Gaile

KurtTheBehemoth

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

tubbyville

Kurt's Royal Guardians

Mo/E

06 Aug 2006 at 10:19 - 32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

That "bar" was lowered by the best in the business, the members of the Guild Wars Team, of which none take games and game art so seriously that they can't enjoy a good laugh, too.

I suggest you consider them a role model and not take things so seriously.

If someone entered and did not win, I'm sorry. If somone didn't enter, but think we need to aim for a certain look and feel, I'm sorry, but in any judged event, there will no doubt be things with which one can disagree. I've never seen a diving competition, or a skating meet, or anything in the Olympics, ever, with which I couldn't take some issue. Any judged event by its very nature means that you're going with the judgment of others. In this case, the members of the Development Team for Guild Wars chose an image that someone love, some hate, and some find baffling for its selection.

End of the day, the judges spoke, and I feel the judges were fully and completely entitled to speak. I have no regrets for inviting them to judge the contest connected with the game that they developed. And as I said, I highly doubt that one smile-inducing image has set the pattern for the downfall or the degradation of future contests. Or the downfall of the Western World, either, come to think of it.

Gaile shall smite thee. hehe. How dare you question the authority of "the best in the business"?

PS. I want a Gaile Gray miniature. Then I can pwn her all night long. In a good way of course.

Andy_M

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Worthing, UK

(Don't fear) The Beaver

06 Aug 2006 at 12:30 - 33

Ok the beaver was funny for about a nano-second. But the winner ? Best in the business, eh ? What in, exactly ?

fgarvin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

06 Aug 2006 at 14:18 - 34

There is nothing wrong with the Beaver. My Guild chose it, as it's eccentricity fits our our Guild's personality...and really, that's all that matters.

Some of our members, mostly non-North Americans, thought it was a squirrel, so it became a Sqeaver...odd, I know, but again, it works for us.

Dekar Havik

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

DRGN

W/

06 Aug 2006 at 16:22 - 35

To be honest, I'm surprised so many people are concerned with a guild emblem...

No one is forcing any of you to use the emblem. It's there for comedic purposes.

Besides, this isn't the first time that ANet had some fun with certain elements of the game...

My two cents...

Sciros Darkblade

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Ohio

Archons Ascendant [Arch] - Leader

W/

07 Aug 2006 at 00:11 - 36

Well, I might not have to use it, but I certainly will have to *see* it ~_^ As for me, I'm just glad they didn't find a burly naked dude amazingly funny that particular evening.

And I don't care if people are gonna consciously submit poorly-drawn garbage from now on, heh. I'm sure there's enough poorly-drawn emblems in every contest anyway. I'm still gonna draw proper stuff and get me more skill pins or hats or whatever ^_^

TheMosesPHD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oregon

Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo]

R/

07 Aug 2006 at 00:40 - 37

Though the guild emblem shown in the OP looks very nice indeed, it probably didn't get chosen because it was too complex. The emblem can only be so big, and it has to be simple enough that it doesn't look too bad when texture quality is set to low, or when the cape is being viewed from far away by another player. An emblem being over-complex is something they have to consider when choosing the winners.

PicardSunstar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

07 Aug 2006 at 01:56 - 38

so i can just take five mins and create some piece of shit thing and win first place...that seems fair...

Sciros Darkblade

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Ohio

Archons Ascendant [Arch] - Leader

W/

07 Aug 2006 at 02:05 - 39

Well my beef with the beaver is that 1) it seems really out of place when seen in the game and 2) how many guilds with a play on the word "beaver" are we going to get now?

Yeah, it's drawn like poo, but it does look pretty funny. Just doesn't feel like a proper GW emblem is all. There *is* a lot to be said for immersiveness in game design, and this beaver is certainly inconsistent with that goal.

PicardSunstar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

07 Aug 2006 at 02:14 - 40

imo http://guildwars.com/images/contests...darkhikari.jpg

is a better than that stupid beaver, its simple, yet good looking..