I wonder why?
I don't fancy pugs for those places, so I just left - back to normal PvE for me
I've still not been in those dungeons
No henchmen for Elite Missions?
Cirian
I have to say, I was looking forward to having a nose around in the Elite Missions this weekend at my own pace with some henchies but... there are none!
I wonder why?
I don't fancy pugs for those places, so I just left - back to normal PvE for me
I've still not been in those dungeons
I wonder why?
I don't fancy pugs for those places, so I just left - back to normal PvE for me
I've still not been in those dungeons
Doomlord_Slayermann
The challenges in both would require almost completely rewriting the henchmen AI because of their complicated tactical content. The Deep requires you to split into four groups at the beginning, for example, and you have to avoid suicide bombers in Warren. In their current state henchmen just wouldn't work for this.
samifly
There are no henchmen for UW or Fissure either. You can hench ToPK but good luck getting past the first room with a full hench team. The hench simply cant handle the high level stuff.
Micromaster
Henchies = 100x worst than the average noob. 
CHUIU
Henchies = 100x better* than the average noob. But only the average noob can make it into places like the deep.
fiery
Chuiu bo staff?
Age
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There are no henchmen for UW or Fissure either. You can hench ToPK but good luck getting past the first room with a full hench team. The hench simply cant handle the high level stuff.
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Gear853
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Henchies = 100x worst than the average noob.
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Darth Malak
B!tch when there closed,
B!tch when there open,
get over it it was designed for an alliance not you damn pugs
and now i can bitch that this event ruined the economy of zodiacs!
B!tch when there open,
get over it it was designed for an alliance not you damn pugs
and now i can bitch that this event ruined the economy
of zodiacs!
xiaotsu
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B!tch when there closed,
B!tch when there open, get over it it was designed for an alliance not you damn pugs and now i can bitch that this event ruined the economy of zodiacs! |
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Now I can afford a decent zodiac! Weehee!
Anyways, henchmen would have been a horrible thing to put in the elite missions. No matter how good you are with controlling your henchmen team they are almost guarenteed to not get past the first part in either mission. They'd have to turn the henchmen into these super AI npcs and than nobody would bother making a real group... they'd just take these buffed up henchies.
Anyways, henchmen would have been a horrible thing to put in the elite missions. No matter how good you are with controlling your henchmen team they are almost guarenteed to not get past the first part in either mission. They'd have to turn the henchmen into these super AI npcs and than nobody would bother making a real group... they'd just take these buffed up henchies.
konohamaru heaven
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Originally Posted by xiaotsu
Not really...alliances ferried people in, so there were still just as many Zodiacs coming out...
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XvArchonvX
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Originally Posted by konohamaru heaven
Actually no there are double gold drops this event so more zodiacs than normal
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DeathandtheHealing
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Actually no there are double gold drops this event so more zodiacs than normal
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nothing drops still.
i dunno what they changed
i've never seen such crappy drops.
zerulus
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errrr have you been in the elite missions recently?
nothing drops still. i dunno what they changed i've never seen such crappy drops. |
Rent
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drops seemed good to me, just finished a run. 4/5 chests were gold and we had over 10 gold items drop from monsters
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lagrand1
drop rate has doubled. instead of 1 gold for every 1000 enemies, it is one for every 500. still rare.
rong626
Well these Elite Missions are not excatly missions....they are like farming areas.
Kattox1
There was a bug that made the chance of you getting rare drops even less rather than the double chance that was said!
Thankfully this has been fixed in the latest update
hehe
Thankfully this has been fixed in the latest update
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Update - Friday August 4 Modified henchmen respawn behavior in PVP battles. Henchmen with 60% Death Penalty will not respawn when they die. Fixed a bug in Elite missions that caused rare items to drop less frequently than intended during the Elite Weekend event. |
Anarion Silverhand
Like stated in the update notes, they JUST fixed the bug so that now the rare drops are doubled.. GG Anet..
http://guildwars.com/support/gameupdates/
http://guildwars.com/support/gameupdates/
Medion
Back on topic...I would have liked henchies too, but I don't mind really, just gonna do something else.
And for those that think henchies can't do it...it was thought about TopK also, and I think there were a few people that did it with henchies.
I don't even care if it were impossible...just would have liked to try get as far as possible
And for those that think henchies can't do it...it was thought about TopK also, and I think there were a few people that did it with henchies.
I don't even care if it were impossible...just would have liked to try get as far as possible
Gear853
they should offer super high IQ Henchies, that make human look n00b.
CHUIU
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Chuiu bo staff?
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infymys
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B!tch when there closed,
B!tch when there open, get over it it was designed for an alliance not you damn pugs and now i can bitch that this event ruined the economy of zodiacs! |
Amity and Truth
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they should offer super high IQ Henchies, that make human look n00b.
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And that is the real sad thing about GuildWars
Numa Pompilius
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I have to say, I was looking forward to having a nose around in the Elite Missions this weekend at my own pace with some henchies but... there are none!
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Hence they don't allow henching in "exclusive" areas. Wrt Urgoz and Deep, they're apparently also designed specifically to make botting - and hence also henching - impossible, by demanding the team to split up and/or use necrotic traversal and rebirth to bypass obstacles.
So the proximate reason is that henches wouldn't work in the Deep or Urgoz (but probably would in FoW and UW), and the ultimate reason is that ANet wants you to play with humans.
Their reasoning is flawed, though. What banning henches actually achieves is that people like me, who want to play missions in their own pace, not run through them with farmer John who's done it 50 times before, simply don't do the missions at all.
Curse You
I think this issue is a little late to be talking about. Factions was released over 3 months ago. If there really was a problem here then I think someone would have posted about it at least in the first month of the game.
But then again, most of the people that did the elite missions in the first month were either farmers, or experienced players. They would have obviously realize why there are no henchmen almost right away, or just did the mission once with a PUG and could see why henchmen would just not work.
But then again, most of the people that did the elite missions in the first month were either farmers, or experienced players. They would have obviously realize why there are no henchmen almost right away, or just did the mission once with a PUG and could see why henchmen would just not work.
Numa Pompilius
Yeah, well, demanding the team to split, or demanding that it suicide or use necrotic traversal & rebirth to get past obstacles, will definitely make henching impossible.
Other than that, I'm not at all convinced it's too hard. ToTPK has been henched, although I haven't myself, I've personally henched all missions + all bonuses in Tyria and all missions (but not all Masters) in Cantha, plus all quests in Sorrows/Grenths. I've soloed in FoW and UW, and I haven't seen anything I don't think I couldn't hench if ANet would let me try.
Other than that, I'm not at all convinced it's too hard. ToTPK has been henched, although I haven't myself, I've personally henched all missions + all bonuses in Tyria and all missions (but not all Masters) in Cantha, plus all quests in Sorrows/Grenths. I've soloed in FoW and UW, and I haven't seen anything I don't think I couldn't hench if ANet would let me try.
pigdestroyer
what about socializing... its quite impressive that some people cant socialize even in games...
Numa Pompilius
What ABOUT socializing? I've got RL friends, I play games to amuse myself, relax and kick back. There's no relaxing or kicking back in a PUG.
floppinghog
well look at all you can do instead of l33tzors places? you can kick back everywhere else, so quit complainin like a noob..
Andy_M
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well look at all you can do instead of l33tzors places? you can kick back everywhere else, so quit complainin like a noob..
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eternal pho
Trust me, you do not want henchmen, for they will die almost immediately ^^