What Class should i be?

Lol. Some people are so ignorant it's sad.

Mesmers are some of the most versatile classes ingaame. Collect some data and make points how mesmers are so weak and prove that statement. I assume you are one of those people who hop around with PuGs, and believe the 'cookie-cutter build' only works. Nukers, MMs, Tanks, Monks. - Look into some in-depth Mesmer explanation/guides.. because, no, they are not weak.

Actually Mesmers can pwn every professions even other Mesmers. It just requires a bit skill.

I have 6 lvl20 chars. Don't rememeber how many lvl20 I deleted, but a lot. I am working on assassin and mesmer right now to complete my collection (I deleted lvl20 assassin right before they allowed to buy new slots Oh, well, I didn't like her hair anyway).
My first character was a monk. It is very easy to find a party for missions and quests, which is quite important for a newcomer. I remember someone was looking for a party in Nolani and I asked him "Need a monk?" and he said "Always ". IMHO monk is the best profession to start with. Take mesmer as your secondary for energy management.
When you finish the game, make W/Mo. Now, the reason for that is to explore Tyria. Simply put, make a runner and go places that you never been with your monk.
Necro, ranger, ele are all fine after that. Eles are not that great anymore, but at least they look sexy (I am talking about female eles of course ). Necro and rangers are probably the best classes for farming. Minion Masters are always welcomed in PUGs. I soloed "Captured Son" with mine, that's how powerful they are. And I killed Urgoz with my ranger yesterday (EoE lvl11 ).
Now, ritualist is quite a boring class to play, cause if you don't use spirits you a pritty much useless. And setting spirits is not that hard. Ritualists are welcomed in PUGs and it's easy to do quests with henches. I actually opened 100% Cantha with my rit, so you can go eveywhere. Plus Rt/Me is a real money maker
Well, let's talk about assassin and mesmer. I play both and I have a very strong opinion that they should not be used in PvE. There are places where you must take at least 1 mesmer (like FoW, UW, Ring of Fire), but otherwise your team can be much happier without them. Assassins are useless in PvE, period (ok, putting Shroud of Silence on Argo was kinda funny, but that is about it).
If we are talking about PvP, assassin and mesmer are the most powerful of them all. But that is a completely different story.

warrior was my first class iv found it fun to play ever since and im on my second warrior now

i say w/mo cause you can learn to farm also after you complete the game to get better weapons/armour

i started with something simple, warrior/monk i thought i was thinking outside the box but apparently a million other people have paladins, they are easy to play with but if your looking for a challenge i would go monk either that or think of a first and secondary that would be hard to play with like a a a a, assassin/elementalist or something like that.

Right so my 15 months of playing GW and seeing how useless mesmers are in PVE make me ignorant does it, oh well. As for pvp I could'nt give a damm if thier the best thing ever. As I don't play pvp.

Yes I do play in pugs, as do probley most people. I don't belive that ONLY "cookie-cuter builds" work. BUT since the only things left for me to do now is play the elite missions or farming in SF. Where you HAVE to have certain builds or you don't get a party. Yes these builds maybe "cookie cuter" but SO WHAT. Like I have said in THREE other posts now if YOU want to play some wierd build that works for you that great BUT DO NOT EXPECT to get invites to pugs if you DO NOT have a build they want. Mesmers and sins are NOT welcome in pve pugs. So not just me who thinks thier not worth a slot but the majority of GW pve players.

I feel you should stick to a more damage dealing class, rather than a Mesmer, Necro, Monk or Ritualist.

Assassins are usually considered weak and are rumored to die in a matter of seconds. This is not true. I clever player can teleport in, do a bit of spike damage, and teleport back without taking a hit. During PvE, finding a group for missions is a hard life as an Assassin, generally due to this stereotyping that goes on amongst other classes. The way they're considered weak is ridiculous. A Ranger being hammer spiked will die just as fast as an Assassin being hammer spiked. Do Rangers get kicked out of mission groups to make room for a Mending Warrior? Nope.
In PvP however, the Assassin is treated completely different, atleast for GvG that is. In a single GvG, a single undisturbed Assassin can wipe out an entire base of NPCs without even blinking an eyelid. GvG is the main use for Assassins, and for single target spiking. However, popular skills and attack chains that deal vast amounts of damage with little thought, will often be nerfed.
To sum up, being an Assassin in PvE is tough, but if your willing to Henchway to level 20 and then be ran to the popular spots, and are willing to pay for the skills, then go for it. Being an Assassin in general PvP is okay, however for the true Assassin feel, go for GvG and gain the experiance of pooning a base of NPCs or pooning an unprotected flag runner.

Elementalists are extremely popular. They get accepted into groups without being asked their build, and will never go out of style. As a PvE Elementalist, you can fight your way to the end of the game without the chance of not finding a group. Lots of spike damage, lots of AoE damage, and lots of spike damage. I know, I've mentioned spike damage twice, but there is so much damage! You can set groups of enemies on fire, freeze them inplace and then send in a shower of meteors to finish them off.
For PvP, there are many Elementalist builds out there, and I don't know too much about them all, but Elementalist is definately a contender for the top class.

Ranger . My favourite. You can do just about anything with a Ranger. For PvE, you can make money running people places, or you could do it for free just to be nice. There are many PvE builds that are effective, but the most popular in most in-demand is the Barrage Bot. As a Barrage Bot you will almost never get turned down for a group. If you do get turned down as a BB, then switch to Interrupt! Rangers are here and here to stay, play a Ranger today!
PvP wise, Rangers are worth while all over. In Random Arenas, you can play Interrupt to annoy that Healer Monk, you can play as a Trapper, to annoy that group of melee fighters over there. The possibilities are endless... The most known PvP build would have Cripshot. A Cripshot can solo a base of NPCs not quite as fast as the Assassin, but just as effectively. When teamed up with a Melandrus Arrows Ranger, you will be causing -7 Health Degen to almost every foe in the area. Play a Ranger today. I almost forgot, Ranger Fow armor is the bee's knees.

Warrior. I can't be bothered to explain the different ways to slay those lone casters sent off the bring the flag, but Warriors are good. Maybe theyre basic? I don't really know. From what I've been told, playing as a Warrior and being effective in a GvG takes co-ordination, speed and lots of DPS! I don't want to recomend playing a Warrior, because there are many out there.

I'm going to bed

15 months and you haven't discovered their potential? Have you even played with those two professions? Sounds like you haven't.

Cookie cutter builds are good for farming to optimize consumed time. However, in missions or quests cookie cutter builds are just so damn boring. The beauty of GW is the amount of ways to kill enemies. Some ways need more team work than others to be effective.

You are right that most PUGs don't want assassins or mesmers. It just tell how narrow-minded most players are. Using own brains is so unreasonable requirement nowadays. Maybe that is a one reason why WoW is more popular.

You have right to have your own opinion. However, fact is that assassins and mesmers are pretty equal with other professions. If majority of players can't play with, it is just stupid to assume that no one can.

Someone should make videos from proper PvE playing assassins and mesmers so these haters can copy the skills and finally experience something different? Oh wait...copying skills is not enough...you have to understand them first...hmmmm

Yes I have tried a mesmer and found it not to be worth bothing with. As for sins no I have'nt. I have a w/mo and don't see the need for another meele class esp one as week as they are. I aslo prefer playing spell casters. I am however intrested seeing how the dervish plays. As it sounds like its whats sins SHOULD of been.

I'm not saying NO ONE can play sins or mesmer but the problem with them esp sins is that you have to be a VERY VERY good sin or else theres no point and that means there are just SOO few of them. That most people rightly assume that the sin who wants to join them is not one of the good ones.

Its not really narrow minded, its just that most people don't want to waste time and have to redo a mission/quest because the person playing a sin or the wierd build caused the rest of the party to die and so they have to start again.

I find the notion of 'don't waste my time unless you have Conformist Build A, B, or D' to be extremely narrow minded. I understand that a lot of people out there (you included, it seems like) are motivated by the run/ drop/ gold/ score/ whatever. I'm playing an assassin now precisely *because* it's gotten such a bad rep, I just had to see what all the fuss was about, and I must admit that while you'll never see me in Leipzig, I'm having a blast with it. Here's a news flash that got overlooked in the 'this build is 1337 and this build suxx0rz' report: assassins are fun. Zipping in, dishing out damage, and being gone before the body hits the ground is cool. I'm not about to say one class is better than the other, because (with like just about everything else) it's the user, not the tools. Give me the most uber W/Mo in existence and I'll find a way to wipe.

But then again, maybe I'm just ignoring the 'competitive' part of 'Competitive Online Roleplaying Game'. Oh well.

That's like saying that you don't want to waste your time because a stupid whammo charged in and got the enemy to overwhelm you.

Eh.

Definitely, I run around 8 builds on my ranger now and I haven't needed to use my other characters for anything other than a change of pace...but usually barragers take interrupts anyway, so it's never a problem getting into a group :P I still need to set up for trapper though

<snip>I feel you should stick to a more damage dealing class, rather than a Mesmer, Necro, Monk or Ritualist <snip>

i laughed when i read this..necro's one of THE biggest dmg dealers IF played CORRECTLY

Ok zsasz and others lets says there the last mission in nightfall takes at least 45 mins to do with a "good party" usualy much longer. All but then end of this mission can be done with most professions but the final part has to done with the following 2 dervishs 2 eles 1 mm 1 Paragon and 1 prot monk 1 heal monk or its REALLY REALLY hard. (the party build is JUST AN EXAMPLE so don't moan I have'nt included your fav prof) This has been tested and showen to be the best way though an otherwise VERY difficult mission.

Why WOULD you want to waste your time and effort takeing groups or builds you KNOW are not going to get though or at the least are make it VERY hard to finish this mission.

Maybe I've been playing this game to long but now I don't bother to stay in groups in outposts that I don't think will complete the mission/quest I'm looking to go on. Yes I have been supprised by the odd group I did'nt think would work and has done but thier pretty rare.

As for which builds are leet and which ones sucks I could'nt give a monkies. If I like the build, it works for me and its fun. I will use it. I don't care if its the commenst w/mo mending build or one noone has thought of. I can remember back when most people (even me) thought rangers where not worth bothering with. But I made one and found out how good they can are. Maybe the same with happend with sins, I doubt it but you never know.

I don't curently have a slot spare to try a sin even if i wanted to. I would much rather have a character mucking about in per-sear if I got another slot than sin. I just don't see the point in them.

SHEESH!!! Every time someone asks about a good profession to start out with, it turns into a Mesmers Suck / Mesmers Rock in PvE arguement. The truth of the matter is that a good Mesmer can make ripping through mobs much easier. A bad Mesmer (*Dunham*) can spell trouble. GUESS WHAT? Every single profession has the SAME PROBLEM! It's the ignorant that dismiss the capabilities of Mesmers in PvE.

I love playing my Mesmer, but I would recommend starting out as a Ranger for your first character. It's not overly complicated and you can better see what's going on with the teammates around you. A Warrior is an easy one to start with too, but you can't watch what's happening in the back lines.

Im just starting this game as well and on the edge aabout a class...has anyone played a ranger/monk? any good?

Yes I got a ranger/monk. I think thier good and enjoy playing him.

I have a lvl 18 Me/N and being a domination MM is fun but extremly hard to do,managing your minions health and the foes energy and attack is tough but you take like no damage at alll!! While the minons are meat sheilds,your foes cant even cast a spell to wipe thier butt!!In the long run mesmers will be worth the hard learning and rough times but if you want a quick fun in searing ascalon go for the Necro/Ele,its good for learning how to use the sklls to your advantage and thier all around fun.

a mesmer? who the hell would want to play a mesmer

/sarcasm

the mesmer is the ultimate class in the game, i seriously began thinking Anet made them super elite since they knew no one would play them. a mesmer can take on any class in the game...cant say that for any other class.

spike, your problem isnt that you played the game too long, your problem is you dont try anything new. you find a build that works, 2 monks 2 tanks, 1 interupt, 1 mm or whatever and you think you must use it every single time.

try something dumb, its fun. me and some friends ran thunderhead with no monks. 6 warriors and 2 rangers. quess what? we beat it with ease. why? because intellegence > google builds