I know this has been mentioned before, but I couldn't find it in search or the index, so I'm guessing it was very old.
in HA, make a set of districts for all ranks, one for rank 3+, one for rank 6+, one for rank 9+, one for rank 12+. I keep seeing unranked players who want to try and have fun and learn, but can't because 90% of all the HA districts nowadays are full of rank 6's or higher.
I know A-net is gonna f*** it up if they put this in. Make the game check for ranks when groups are moving districts.
Ranked Districts
shardfenix
MSecorsky
/Not signed for elitism and feeling like it's just a flat out stupid idea.
Guitary Boy
I think this a great idea, anet wouldnt have to check for ranks because what rank 12 goes into an unranked district other than if they wished to help, it would give every one some space. Unranked players would have lots more fun and be able to rank up faster. While highranked players could do organized H-A or even help unranked/lowranked players. Best pvp idea i've heard in a long time.
/Signed. Keep this post going
Edit: How is it a flat out stupid idea, its going to stop getting bothered by low ranks while you get to do all your U83R L337 pvp
/Signed. Keep this post going
Edit: How is it a flat out stupid idea, its going to stop getting bothered by low ranks while you get to do all your U83R L337 pvp
Poison Ivy
/signed
Let unranked people play with unranked until they are ranked, let ranked people play with ranked.
And a better idea is, the unranked people will only meet up against other unranked people, so it's fair that way, the unranked can get rank more quickly, eventually going into ranked districts, joining ranked groups, and fighting with ranked people.
This idea should've been thought at the beginning of GW
Let unranked people play with unranked until they are ranked, let ranked people play with ranked.
And a better idea is, the unranked people will only meet up against other unranked people, so it's fair that way, the unranked can get rank more quickly, eventually going into ranked districts, joining ranked groups, and fighting with ranked people.
This idea should've been thought at the beginning of GW
derrtyboy69
would be better than the current state of HA, /signed
MSecorsky
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Edit: How is it a flat out stupid idea, its going to stop getting bothered by low ranks while you get to do all your U83R L337 pvp
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1. IF you can only go into districts of the same rank as you or lower, then you have a couple problems - First, no one high ranked can help out anyone lower, and second, are there really enough of each rank group on at a time to form parties? You greatly reduce the pool of candidates. Besides, a bunch of rank 9 IWays are no better than unranked new PvPers anyhow, so you don't get the segregation of skill you would intend.
2. If they allow higher ranks to visit lowers, you just add another tool for little boys with big egos to use to flame the lower levels, making quality of life less pleasant in general.
And don't pretend they wouldn't do it.
Relambrien
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Originally Posted by MSecorsky
Easy.
1. IF you can only go into districts of the same rank as you or lower, then you have a couple problems - First, no one high ranked can help out anyone lower, and second, are there really enough of each rank group on at a time to form parties? You greatly reduce the pool of candidates. Besides, a bunch of rank 9 IWays are no better than unranked new PvPers anyhow, so you don't get the segregation of skill you would intend. 2. If they allow higher ranks to visit lowers, you just add another tool for little boys with big egos to use to flame the lower levels, making quality of life less pleasant in general. And don't pretend they wouldn't do it. |
And about number 1, the idea would be to allow access to a ranked district when you get that rank, allowing you to visit all other districts you have access to. But you seem to understand that, so just making sure for you ^^
Oh wait, upon re-reading the first post I can see how that's unclear, but yeah, there would be no point to restricting acess only to the rank you currently have, and not the ones below your rank.
So of course, /signed for me.
EternalTempest
/Singed
Under condition already stated. You can get in to that "level" if you meet or exceed that rank. Aka if your rank 6 you could get in to Rank 0, Rank 3, and Rank 6 area's but not Rank 9, 12 etc.
I also look like this approach on matching but don't want to dissallow higher rank in lower area. But if you get a rank 6+ in rank 0 spamming Rank 6+ show emote you have leg to stand on to say go to your own D 
Under condition already stated. You can get in to that "level" if you meet or exceed that rank. Aka if your rank 6 you could get in to Rank 0, Rank 3, and Rank 6 area's but not Rank 9, 12 etc.
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/signed
Let unranked people play with unranked until they are ranked, let ranked people play with ranked. And a better idea is, the unranked people will only meet up against other unranked people, so it's fair that way, the unranked can get rank more quickly, eventually going into ranked districts, joining ranked groups, and fighting with ranked people. This idea should've been thought at the beginning of GW |
B Ephekt
I think this is a great idea.
That's a horrible idea... The unranked players will never learn anything if they just roll other bad players. It takes losing to good players to learn from your mistakes, and imo, that's what being rank 0-3 is all about. This system should only aid in the forming of groups, but all HAers should compete in the same tournament.
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And a better idea is, the unranked people will only meet up against other unranked people, so it's fair that way, the unranked can get rank more quickly, eventually going into ranked districts, joining ranked groups, and fighting with ranked people.
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Horible
Love it.
/signed
It would be eisier to gain rank and not have to spam, "Need r6+ ______ for r6+ team" People would just know
Horible
/signed
It would be eisier to gain rank and not have to spam, "Need r6+ ______ for r6+ team" People would just know
Horible
Alpha Moth
no signed stupid
Esprit
If you allow higher ranked players into un-ranking areas then you start running into the problem of highly ranked groups going to lower ranked areas to possibly wipe the floor with lower ranked (chances are high). You can either:
1. Not allow higher ranked players into lower ranked districts. Though you might end up with areas that are sparsely populated if not done correctly.
2. Allow higher ranked players into lower ranked districts, but when you start a battle the type of group you go against is determined by the highest ranked player. So if you have an r12 with a bunch of r3's than you would be matched with a group ranked closest to the r12 player.
3. Allow higher ranked players into lower ranked districts, but reduce faction rewards and remove fame gained. That way there is less incentive to 'pwn' in lower ranked districts.
1. Not allow higher ranked players into lower ranked districts. Though you might end up with areas that are sparsely populated if not done correctly.
2. Allow higher ranked players into lower ranked districts, but when you start a battle the type of group you go against is determined by the highest ranked player. So if you have an r12 with a bunch of r3's than you would be matched with a group ranked closest to the r12 player.
3. Allow higher ranked players into lower ranked districts, but reduce faction rewards and remove fame gained. That way there is less incentive to 'pwn' in lower ranked districts.
Venice Queen
Rejected.
EternalTempest
The "rank" of the team would have to be matched to a like team of rank compsotion in the background done by the server. Not a system determined by what D/Rank your in for it to work.
Amity and Truth
Bad bad idea. Really.
Not only would it promote elitism it would also give the jerks even more powder for their Anti-Newbie Flaks.
Not only would it promote elitism it would also give the jerks even more powder for their Anti-Newbie Flaks.
Guitary Boy
Good idea on the lower ranks cant get into high rank districts but high ranks can get into low for helping, but it would be rather annoying if there were about 15 rank 6+ spamming rank 6+ party lf (insert build) Maybe if Ghial Grey from a-net saw this could ask them for a beta test in a couple of months or somthing? just an idea
And if your going to mock the idea atleast leave a reason, dont just say "no signed stupid" ect. Constructive criticism based round why you dont like it rather than its a crappy idea
And if your going to mock the idea atleast leave a reason, dont just say "no signed stupid" ect. Constructive criticism based round why you dont like it rather than its a crappy idea
viper008
/Not signed for elitism and will bring even more discrimination to the game
Chief
/not signed
This is an interesting idea, but the majority of you are thinking like a PUG. What about guilds teams that have a mixture of high rank and low/no rank players who want to play Heroes’ Ascent (HA)?
This is probably not a good idea either. You may be limiting yourself in HA where you could be waiting for hours and seeing “No Opposing Party” or similar notice on the screen when you want to enter the mission (very similar to Alliance Battles).
This is an interesting idea, but the majority of you are thinking like a PUG. What about guilds teams that have a mixture of high rank and low/no rank players who want to play Heroes’ Ascent (HA)?
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The "rank" of the team would have to be matched to a like team of rank compsotion in the background done by the server. Not a system determined by what D/Rank your in for it to work.
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MSecorsky
I'm just saying that if you introduce anything in the game that promotes elitism the negative potential will amplified. What you see today in HA will pale in comparison of the self-proclaimed elite popping into lower arenas, vomiting their elitism and running to the higher ranked area before they have to tolerate any criticism of their childishness.
Cracko
/notsigned
Most of my guild/alliance is r9+ and im still a lowbie, so when i want to play with them they have to switch districts?
What an elitism and stupid idea!
Most of my guild/alliance is r9+ and im still a lowbie, so when i want to play with them they have to switch districts?
What an elitism and stupid idea!
EternalTempest
It think the goal is to move the "ellitism" or high ranks so they can go off and play together or at least group together so people just starting don't feel the very cold shoulder.
But based on the amount of feedback against this and support, it might cause the problem to be different instead of solving it.
So I retract my /signed and go to abstain.
But based on the amount of feedback against this and support, it might cause the problem to be different instead of solving it.
So I retract my /signed and go to abstain.
Relambrien
Well I guess people aren't thinking of the same system as me =\
I'm terrible at explaining things, but it would go something like this. You would have your home districts, your international districts, and your ranked districts. Home districts and international districts remain and have absolutely no rank restrictions. The ranked districts are specifically for forming parties with at least a certain rank. That way a guild team could just meet up in the home districts, which is what they would default to, or the int districts if they're not all from the same territory.
I was thinking more of an "add the districts" system, not "replace the districts."
Ah well, what can you do eh? Personally I'd rather see an Auction House before this. But that's another debate for another thread :P
I'm terrible at explaining things, but it would go something like this. You would have your home districts, your international districts, and your ranked districts. Home districts and international districts remain and have absolutely no rank restrictions. The ranked districts are specifically for forming parties with at least a certain rank. That way a guild team could just meet up in the home districts, which is what they would default to, or the int districts if they're not all from the same territory.
I was thinking more of an "add the districts" system, not "replace the districts."
Ah well, what can you do eh? Personally I'd rather see an Auction House before this. But that's another debate for another thread :P
Gildor Took
/not signed
fiery
Rank 3-9 IWAY looking for group eh? Less unranked Iway SPAM , I LIKE!
shardfenix
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/Not signed for elitism and feeling like it's just a flat out stupid idea.
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Kai Nui
I'm R4, but I always end up getting smuggled into R6 and R9 groups by friends. Already since adding the ability to show titles I've lost the ability to bluff my rank as nearly 6 or other people. I am not going to agree.
Terra Xin
bad idea. Iway is a perfect example of people who have gained their ranks this way... and because of this, they're still useless at playing GW.
Yeah... that'll be the day.
This is the BIGGEST flaw between rank and personal experience, and Anet have yet to see this. You must have no idea how much crap people of higher ranks give to the lowers, that's why I would rather listen to random insults in RA than go there, people are just rude beyond comparison.
It is a flaw because people of the same experience are NOT relative to the rank that they have. Ive seen battles where R9 players tell the group what to do, then go out (because he brought an Iway build) and die, and then blame the rest of us, using his rank to defend himself. Coupling groups with their own ranks will just equal further exploitation of their ranks "I'm R6 AND I have access to the R6 district, you dont, so you suck... noob" (btw, I hate noobcallers, but that's irrelevant)
That's far from the point. The objective for an unranked player is to get into a group... period. This way, if they run badly, they would ideally get tips on how to improve, instead of getting booted at first sight.
We already have titles that show your rank, no need to cause deliberate separation.
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It is a flaw because people of the same experience are NOT relative to the rank that they have. Ive seen battles where R9 players tell the group what to do, then go out (because he brought an Iway build) and die, and then blame the rest of us, using his rank to defend himself. Coupling groups with their own ranks will just equal further exploitation of their ranks "I'm R6 AND I have access to the R6 district, you dont, so you suck... noob" (btw, I hate noobcallers, but that's irrelevant)
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We already have titles that show your rank, no need to cause deliberate separation.
gameshoes3003
/notsigned
It's just flat out stupid because I do not do HoH much and if I were to go in with and Alliance or my guild and they all have a higher rank than me, then I'm out. Also it'd suck if you wanted to HoH with a friend and you guys can't be together.
It's just flat out stupid because I do not do HoH much and if I were to go in with and Alliance or my guild and they all have a higher rank than me, then I'm out. Also it'd suck if you wanted to HoH with a friend and you guys can't be together.
Malice Black
Lol I love how Iway gets drawn into every thread about fame/HA/HoH..Iway is a viable build like it or not.
Maria The Princess
why not?
/signed
/signed
Ado
I've read the critics in this thread and the solution is simple: keep the excisting districts and add ranked districts.
Lykan
nah i dont think this is a good idea
(08-07-2006, 11:23 PM > Today, 12:10 AM
You been away the last 2 months or something Shard?)
(08-07-2006, 11:23 PM > Today, 12:10 AM
You been away the last 2 months or something Shard?)
Avarre
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Lol I love how Iway gets drawn into every thread about fame/HA/HoH..Iway is a viable build like it or not.
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/unsigned for various previously stated reasons.
Terra Xin
pfft, of course Iway is a viable build, playing that build requires no experience, even after getting rank 9, you're still a crap player...
cataphract
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/Not signed for elitism and feeling like it's just a flat out stupid idea.
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/notsigned
A better idea would be to add "retarded builds districts" so all the iway, vimway, b-spike, r-spike, bunny thump players could find playmates a lot easier. They would be spared of constant ridicule and people who dont' play retarded builds would have much more enjoyable districts without "LF R9+ IWAY WARR, EMOTE UNDER BRIDGE" and the like.
Ado
Is there 1 thread where iway/vim/spike doesnt get flamed?..........
Thom Bangalter
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Is there 1 thread where iway/vim/spike doesnt get flamed?..........
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anyway, on subject, Even though I'm not r9, my guild plays with a lot of r9 people that we wouldn't have met if there was seperate districts for each rank. so /notsigned.
master_of_puppets
/not signed
this would make all the districts more sparsely populated, yeah I'm sure the r12+ district is gonna be crowded to the max
this would make all the districts more sparsely populated, yeah I'm sure the r12+ district is gonna be crowded to the max
Stemnin
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/Not signed for elitism and feeling like it's just a flat out stupid idea.
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/unsigned